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1 edit | Re: What speeds & how good is coverage? said by TKJunkMail  :They call it 4G, but what real life speeds are users getting and how widespread is coverage in the areas Sprint say they are in. For example, coverage in Philly metro area is fairly limited to most parts of the city, but almost no suburbs where most of the metro population lives. 4G Wimax in BLUE:» coverage.sprintpcs.com/IMPACT.js···offerbox The coverage in the Triad (Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point) and surprisingly, some pretty rural areas, is identical to what Clearwire covered with their Pre-WiMax service. That's about 2 hours of drive-time east to west represented on the map. Their 4G+3G unlimited plan at $70 is an extremely good deal. If one wanted to, you could use the 4G at home, then take it on the road and fall back to 3G when 4G wasn't available. | |
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| Re: What speeds & how good is coverage? Not bad. It looks like they are already seeing upstream congestion though. A 50% fluctuation in bandwidth is pretty dramatic. | |
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Philadelphia, PA | GOLFnSun, I would assume that 4G will eventually make its way into most of the surrounding Philly burbs. I live in the N.E. part of the city and im very tempted to sign up. I wonder how long the service will stay "uncapped" though? | |
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Enjoy the sun
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| Re: What speeds & how good is coverage? said by mobbo :What's the latency like? Can you game on it (XBox Live)? The speedtest shows 77ms of latency. | |
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Denton, TX | Re: What speeds & how good is coverage? I guess my question would better phrased: has anyone gamed on this connection and seen pros/cons? | |
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| Re: What speeds & how good is coverage? said by mobbo :I guess my question would better phrased: has anyone gamed on this connection and seen pros/cons? Well you can game just fine with Sprint EV-DO so this would be even better. At lease 50ms lower latency than what t you would get with EV-DO.
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Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Phones? said by swintec :Are there phones out now that can work on 4G/3G/2G areas, depending on where you roam to?? No phones yet for 4G. Only cards for PCs. | |
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New York | Re: Go Sprint! Verizon and AT&T are busy debating who's faster and suing each other for it. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Go Sprint! Apple hasn't created a WiMAX iPhone yet.
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| said by Network Guy :Verizon and AT&T are busy debating who's faster and suing each other for it.
Indeed. The long history of the Bell System was substituting anti-competitive litigation (both in the courts and in the regulatory agencies) for innovation. Now it's fun watching the two successful offspring go after each other rather than actually develop new stuff....
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| Also launched in Austin and San Antonio For a total of 3.2 million extra folks covered in that area, if we're assuming the full metro areas are covered, give or take additional areas nearby. There's close to contiguous coverage between Ausin and S.A. Granted, the Chicago metro is 10 million people and DFW is 5.5 million, but still not shabby.
Interesting, though expected, that Clear's big thrust recently has been in TWC markets. What's even more interesting is that Clear's speed tiers are a tad better than TWC's wired cable internet tiers, though pricing is slightly offset.
For example:
1000/500 Clear - $25
768/128 TWC - $20
3000/1000 Clear - $30
3000/384 TWC - $35
Uncapped/1000 Clear (6+ Mbps) - $45
7000/512 TWC - $40
Granted, TWC has lower pings and probably a more reliable network, but the prices on lower end service compare favorably with TWC and U-Verse, where the latter is available. Grande Communications loses out here on a price-performance comparison.
It's nice having no fewer than four providers competing on legit high speed internet, though no provider offers more than 2 Mbps up in San Antonio or Austin, at least not in most cases. You have to go to coop-powered GVTC territory for that (they have a 20/3 residential tier, and a 25/??? business tier).
One other thing: Clear's small business internet is MUCH cheaper than TWC's. I'll bet a few businesses will switch over due to the cost savings. | |
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| Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio Now what bandwidth pool are each of the Clear tiers taken out of? Cable is 38mbit DOCSIS per node/tower. Is Clear's towers can only deliver advertised speed to only 1 subscriber at any time? How did Clear engineer their network for over subscription (which all telecom companies do).? | |
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Golden, CO | Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio 100+ MHz of spectrum to play with, that's how. | |
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| Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio said by iansltx :100+ MHz of spectrum to play with, that's how. Irrelevant.
If you have 1 tower serving 200000 subscribers, 100mhz is nothing.
If you have low SNR, 100 mhz means nothing.
If your not using all 100mhz by corporate financial decision, 100 mhz means nothing.
If your backhaul is less than what 100 mhz and the SNR and protocol make available, 100 mhz means nothing.
If there are legacy users in your 100 mhz, 100 mhz means nothing. | |
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| Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio 1. WiMAX is built for metro-area networks. There aren't going to be 200,000 subscribers on a tower, just like there aren't 200,000 subscribers on a cable node.
2. Cable has low SNR issues as well. There's also the issue of no-SNR areas...you know, the ones that aren't wired for cable.
3. If you aren't using DOCSIS 3.0 by corporate decision, 160 Mbps means nothing.
4. Clear has fiber backhauls to its main towers, and wireless bckhauls in between towers. Once you get fiber brought in the marginal cost of bandwidth is relatively low. On the wireless side, point to point wireless backhauls are available at the gigabit-per-second level.
5. There are no legacy users in the 100MHz of spectrum that Clear has.
With 100MHz of spectrum, Clear potentially has more capacity in a given area than 8-channel-bonded DOCSIS 3.0, though realistically due to lower than average signals etc. you'll see packages more comparable to DOCSIS 1.1 or maybe 2.0, at least with today's equipment. Which is perfectly fine; DOCSIS 1.1 and 2.0 are more than enough to compete on mobility and price versus DSL, non-D3 cable and even DOCSIS 3. | |
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| Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio said by iansltx :With 100MHz of spectrum, Clear potentially has more capacity in a given area than 8-channel-bonded DOCSIS 3.0, though realistically due to lower than average signals etc. you'll see packages more comparable to DOCSIS 1.1 or maybe 2.0, at least with today's equipment. Which is perfectly fine; DOCSIS 1.1 and 2.0 are more than enough to compete on mobility and price versus DSL, non-D3 cable and even DOCSIS 3. How about some actual mbps? And does Clear use 100 mhz at each tower? and how much performance loss is there from frequencey reuse in wimax? | |
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Harrisonville, MO | Re: Also launched in Austin and San Antonio Is that spectrum (100MHz that they have to use) per tower, per town, or for the whole US?
So if they use 5MHz for a tower, can they not reuse that for other towers/towns? | |
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bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
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1 edit | Chicago anyone seen maps for Chicago or know where to get a coverage map for Chicago? Can't find anything on their site but I am a noob.
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| Re: Chicago I've got coverage out here in Hinsdale. However, two things keep me from pulling the trigger:
"Unlimited usage plans are subject to certain limitations"
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"Typical download speeds are 3-6 Mbps"
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Bite my shiny metal ass
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Evanston, IL
clubs: | Re: Chicago i'm in evanston and appear to be in a black hole w/ clearwire. no service in Northwestern Territory | |
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join:2003-11-11
Chicago, IL
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| Re: Chicago Bender, are you saying that you have a clearwire compatible modem and it's not picking up any signal over there?
From the looks of the map it "looks" like Evanston is covered.
»https://www.clear.com/public/images/maps···cago.jpg
That would be a shame, especially since Evanston is a great place with all the cafes and bookstores round there.
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Bite my shiny metal ass
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
clubs: | Re: Chicago if the gray area has service, then yes. but when i put my address in it says its not covered. | |
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join:2003-10-13 | VOIP at a Fixed Location Has anyone tried VOIP at a fixed location with this? Is it reliable? | |
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join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
| Clear Austin, TX Speed Test I ran the following Speed Test today while at a BestBuy store:
As you can see the upload speeds are really really bad. I hope they do something about this soon. Also, I have no idea how they can provide VOIP services with Line Quality results rated at a C. They really need to fix the upload problem or they will continue to recieve negative reviews their customers. | |
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| Re: Clear Austin, TX Speed Test In Detroit, we have a local wimax provider who is positioning their product against a T1 and even offering VOIP over it. I guess the devil is in the details (implementation). I'd also think that a 166ms ping time would knock VOIP out of the box. I've done it at upto 350ms from abroad, but it wasn't business quality. | |
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join:2001-01-25
Matthews, NC
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| RoadRunner Mobile RoadRunner Mobile has also launched in Charlotte, as a result of Clear's announcement...
to see the plans we have now check out this link: Road Runner Mobile »bit.ly/2KgFWU
for a zip code enter 28202(its charlotte)we seem to have a lot of options... | |
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Sprint 4G And Clearwire Arrives in Chicago
What speeds & how good is coverage?
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