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kudos:1 | Re: Cheap Acquisition I'm in for $41!  | |
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| | I'm heading to Sprint Jumping ship ASAP to Sprint for phone service anyways. With Verizon's ridiculous price scheme release yesterday, At&t being a turd as it is, and T-mobile essentially non existent where I live, Sprint is the way to go. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Yawn Agreed. Spring will be better served by redoubling its focus on upgrading/transitioning its networks and improving support so that it can compete on quality and price....before the merger happens. It's much easier to outpace a speeding train than it is to stop it. | |
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Grinnell, IA | Re: Yawn I second that, When this deal goes through though, Sprint will have to take on US Cellular, Metro PCS and Cricket in order to have a chance as surviving though me thinks. | |
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| | | | | Re: Yawn I can't believe people still pay AT&T their hard earned money.
Your probably right about Sprint though. | |
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kudos:2 | Some M&A for Sprint is likely needed and I don't doubt it will happen. Otherwise, Sprint risks being relegated to the likes of Metro PCS and Cricket. | |
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| | |  King PDon't blame me. I voted for Ron PaulPremium
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Franklin, TN | Don't those 3 regional providers piggy back off of Sprint's network anyway?
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kudos:2 | I hope not. Direct Tv and Dishnetwork was not aproved. Two DBS providers. Same Standard for the last two GSM. | |
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| | | | Re: Yawn What other consumer competition is there in the residential small-dish satellite market? At least there are Verizon and Sprint and a handful of local carriers in the cell phone market. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Yawn Its a televison market. Direct Tv and Dish have competition from C-Band,Cable,Globecast,Uverse,FIOS, and OTA. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Yawn Ok, I applied a narrow focus to the 'dish TV' vs all tv like I was trying to imply that you did with GSM carriers vs. cellular carriers in general. Thanks for the correction. | |
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| | | | | | Kommie , I definitely see your point and agree with you 100% to bad the paid off members of the FCC don't see it that way! If the TAKEOVER ( lets call it what it really is) does NOT go through I may just have a little faith in the FCC once again. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Kommie:I hope not. Direct Tv and Dishnetwork was not aproved. Two DBS providers. Same Standard for the last two GSM. I hope not as well, but in light of the Comcast-NBC merger, as well as a whole slew of other mergers, I can't help but conclude the worst.
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kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Yawn said by pnh102:said by Kommie:I hope not. Direct Tv and Dishnetwork was not aproved. Two DBS providers. Same Standard for the last two GSM. I hope not as well, but in light of the Comcast-NBC merger, as well as a whole slew of other mergers, I can't help but conclude the worst. The sad part is the last failed merger was blocked by the Bush Administration, and if Obama's Administration allows this, it will be a damned shame! | |
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| People who live in glass houses... Dear Sprint,
How about showing your own customers some network improvement? Service in downstate Illinois has been abysmal for the last year, and all your reps can say is "we know about it, but don't have a date when the problem will be fixed". | |
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kudos:2 | Re: People who live in glass houses... I was thinking the exact same thing... hey Sprint... what about all your un-used spectrum? Doctor cure thy-self... and while your at it... how about bringing back some of your recent dropped tower locations, and hey why not add some back-haul to the towers you do have | |
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| Not that I disagree with Sprint's statement but.... Didn't Sprint purchase Nextel for its user base, cell sites and spectrum (and have the gov't give them more for clearing out some of the SMR band as well ?). Sprint effectively covered its urban areas with a LOT of sites due to its purchase of Nextel in a short period of time. AT&T is attempting to do this as well.
I'll agree with a lot of Sprint's statements that AT&T 'could' have no issues if they invested and deployed spectrum/backhaul vs. becoming a spectrum squatter. | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
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kudos:4 | Re: Not that I disagree with Sprint's statement but.... said by en103:Didn't Sprint purchase Nextel for its user base, cell sites and spectrum (and have the gov't give them more for clearing out some of the SMR band as well ?). Sprint effectively covered its urban areas with a LOT of sites due to its purchase of Nextel in a short period of time. AT&T is attempting to do this as well.
I'll agree with a lot of Sprint's statements that AT&T 'could' have no issues if they invested and deployed spectrum/backhaul vs. becoming a spectrum squatter.
Yes, Sprint's suggestions are all well founded. Too bad they are taking so long to follow their own advice.
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| | | Yeah, but didn't AT&T tell us as recently as a few months back that they cover 97% of all Americans? At the time when Sprint and Nextel merged there were far more wireless carriers in play and the combined entity did not become the behemoth AT&T would become (and arguably already is). If consolidation is in order, Sprint should buy T-Mobile and offer a third alternative to the Ma-Bell fat toddlers. | |
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| Re: Sprint should buy T-mobile... That is what sprint originally wanted to do, I believe there pre-merger statement was they were going to bid somewhere in the $8-10 Billion market. So was Google and Vodafone with offers around the same ballpark or just a bit higher ( I believe Vodafone would have won). However before anyone could get there ducks in a row sort-to- speak ATT jumped in and offered and over the top $39 Billion! So you know what that means....." money talks, and B.S. walks!" | |
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| | | said by en103:Didn't Sprint purchase Nextel for its user base, cell sites and spectrum (and have the gov't give them more for clearing out some of the SMR band as well ?). Sprint effectively covered its urban areas with a LOT of sites due to its purchase of Nextel in a short period of time. AT&T is attempting to do this as well.
I'll agree with a lot of Sprint's statements that AT&T 'could' have no issues if they invested and deployed spectrum/backhaul vs. becoming a spectrum squatter.
You're comparing oranges and apples. AT&T's executives are on record stating the cause of their network issues was the result of cutting capex (to pump up their stock price).
They claimed to their shareholders they could fix the problems by increasing capex again.
Somehow spending $38 billion on T-Mobile, a 100+% premium, doesn't seem like the best way to improve a network. | |
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| Re: Not that I disagree with Sprint's statement but.... I don't disagree. This is effectively (assuming it would work) spectrum, customer and network grab in one swoop. Kind of like what Sprint did with Nextel. Like the Sprint/Nextel deal, I don't think it will go over well with the existing customers, and T-Mobile subs will flee. | |
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join:2000-06-03
Oakland, CA | Sprint knows best? Sprint seems to think they know about network improvement when it comes to analyzing another company. Perhaps they should focus on themselves and how they can reclaim lost subscribers rather than be jealous of a more successful company. | |
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| | | Re: Sprint knows best? said by Neosum:Sprint seems to think they know about network improvement when it comes to analyzing another company. Perhaps they should focus on themselves and how they can reclaim lost subscribers rather than be jealous of a more successful company.
Yes because AT&T gained their market share purely through success, marketing, and high-quality products.
Oh wait, they actually gained their market share by buying up all their competitors and decreasing the quality of their product.
And Sprint "jealous" you say? All Sprint cares about is making money. If AT&T buys out T-mobile their competitors, especially Sprint, will be at a huge disadvantage. | |
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| | So easy huh? If its so easy, then why hasn't Sprint already implemented this? Their network is worse than AT&T's.
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| King PDon't blame me. I voted for Ron PaulPremium
join:2004-11-17
Franklin, TN | Re: So easy huh? Ok, totally subjective statement, but Sprint's network here is pretty awesome, plus it's covered by 4G.
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| | | | Re: So easy huh? But the problem is they are not expanding their 4G and are falling behind even AT&T.
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Orange, CA Reviews:
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| Re: So easy huh? The reason is that they will be deploying 4G LTE to consumers (via Lightsquared deal) and relegating 4G WiMax to backhaul where it is more useful IMO.
AT&T's Tier 1 IP backbone network has issues whereas Sprint's Tier 1 IP backbone is rock solid. | |
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| | | | | | Re: So easy huh? Did you just say, "Sprint's Tier 1 IP backbone is rock solid." LMAO!!!!
i dont think Sprint's IP is even considered a Tier 1 backbone! | |
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join:2010-10-23
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kudos:6 Reviews:
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| T Mobile Wellness Call I actually got a call from T Mobile yesterday to thank me for my business and to check and see if everything was going smoothly. I asked about the proposed buyout with AT&T and how it would affect users, and they told me that people would be grandfathered in, but beyond that they don't know. AT&T buying T-Mobile is just such a bad idea I can't even being to start talking about it. | |
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join:2000-06-03
Oakland, CA | Re: T Mobile Wellness Call Let's be realistic though. Tmobile hasnt turned a profit in the last few quarters. They're operating at a loss. Do you really expect them to continue to operate and lose money for you?
They're faced with a choice. Sell and recoup $39 billion in cash and att stocks so that they can reinvest that money somewhere else or continue to operate at a loss until they go bankrupt and leave with nothing. | |
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join:2010-10-23
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kudos:6 Reviews:
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| Re: T Mobile Wellness Call There IS a third option and that is to fix their business model so they can actually become profitable. They don't necessarily have to rely on capital gains either. Streamline operations, find out what is costing the most money and why, do an efficiency check, and a baseline analysis when all is said and done to see if the changes really helped. | |
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They're faced with a choice. Sell and recoup $39 billion in cash and att stocks so that they can reinvest that money somewhere else or continue to operate at a loss until they go bankrupt and leave with nothing.
What? Why are you spreading lies? T-Mobile has been extremely profitable. They're operating at profit. They don't have to sell at all.
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| said by sk1939:I actually got a call from T Mobile yesterday to thank me for my business and to check and see if everything was going smoothly. I asked about the proposed buyout with AT&T and how it would affect users, and they told me that people would be grandfathered in, but beyond that they don't know. AT&T buying T-Mobile is just such a bad idea I can't even being to start talking about it.
you and me both. i was so furious when i found out about the plan.
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | nextel When sprint fully converts their nextel towers over to pure sprint, i'm jumping on board with them! I can freaking see the nextel tower here from my porch! I wonder how just 3g data would work using it.. | |
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| Re: nextel Sprint might be pretty awesome if you live within 5 miles of a major city or major highway, otherwise your screwed. at least where I live it is that way. I don't agree with AT&T buying out T-Mobile and in fact I personally would be perfectly happy if AT&T went under tomorrow but Sprint needs to realise people might want to use thier service somewhere besides at the store or on the road.
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| | ATT Fix your own Network ATT you are so full of shit.Instead of crying foul why not fix your own network.why do you need to buy this other company to fix your network.
you are full of it and us techies know this.invest your big ass profits into your own business.we do not need your merger. | |
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EARTH | BS Spectrum is limited, and AT&T can't just put up towers with no permits. T-Mobile is a good acquisition for them. | |
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