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Sprint Announces 9 More 'Coming Soon' LTE Markets
Including Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Oakland
by Karl Bode 02:56PM Wednesday Nov 14 2012 Tipped by Der_Idiot See Profile
Sprint is poised to turn on service in nine new markets, while many people wait for the company to seriously deploy LTE in some larger cities. According to a Sprint press release, Sprint has started working on LTE upgrades in markets like Minneapolis and Oakland, with a full service launch expected sometime before January. Sprint is turning markets on almost as soon as they're even remotely deployed, resulting in many users with LTE devices seeing network connectivity before commercial launch.

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While the pre-launch availability is nice, Sprint has recently resorted to announcing a lot of upcoming LTE markets, as opposed to actually available LTE markets. The carrier realizes that they're getting a lot of new iPhone users who may find themselves disappointed with LTE coverage compared to Verizon (417 markets) and AT&T (80 markets).

Sprint currently offers LTE in 32 cities, with 127 more launching in the "coming months" (read: within six months). Their use of the word "cities" is rather generous, since the majority of their market launches have been in small markets. Even their large market launches haven't been particularly robust, a recent study showing that Sprint's significantly over-stating coverage in launched markets.

Fortunately for Sprint they've now got a rich sugar daddy in Japanese owner SoftBank, but the full benefits of that relationship obviously won't be available until the deal sees regulatory approval. Sprint continues to promise that major markets like New York and Washington DC are close, likely during the first quarter of next year.

The full list of additional upcoming markets:


•Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (Minnesota market)
•Fort Smith, AR (Arkansas market)
•Ardmore, OK (Oklahoma market)
•Oakland/Fremont/Hayward, CA (SF Bay market)
•Michigan City/La Porte, IN (Chicago market)
•McAllen/Edinburg/Mission, TX (South Texas market)
•Key West, FL (Miami/West Palm market)
•Bloomington, IN (Indianapolis market)
•Eau Claire, WI (Minnesota market)

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jarablue
Always be true to yourself

join:2001-06-11
Boxborough, MA

Worcester MA?

Funny that Worcester, MA is supposed to have LTE yet where ever I go in Worcester I constantly stay on 3g.

Dest
Bolo
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join:2000-03-21
Naperville, IL

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Re: Worcester MA?

Crowd sourcing for the win....

seem the coverage is mostly east of Worcester
»imgur.com/dKYGh

and here's a shot of Dallas...
»imgur.com/3GGGn,fh64P

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oops fixed worcester's link
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Softbank not likely to speed up LTE rollout

quote:
Fortunately for Sprint they've now got a rich sugar daddy in Japanese owner SoftBank, but the full benefits of that relationship obviously won't be available until the deal sees regulatory approval. Sprint continues to promise that major markets like New York and Washington DC are close, likely during the first quarter of next year.
The SB deal won't change the LTE rollout schedule but the $3B they already planted helps secure the existing plans. Sprint is blaming equipment lead time from manufacturers for the schedule.

The LTE coverage in KC really sucked at first but they have been improving it every week. I get solid LTE between home and work now, essentially the same as a voice signal, which was not the case with WiMAX.

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

Re: Softbank not likely to speed up LTE rollout

what speeds are you seeing?
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Softbank not likely to speed up LTE rollout

said by Jim_in_VA:

what speeds are you seeing?

Up to 28mbps but typically 6-12... unlimited. The improved ping time is a bigger factor with most smartphone apps. Apps don't really need more than a few Mbps, it's the ping time that matters.

»dl.dropbox.com/u/3812896/Pics/An···tlte.png

Jim_in_VA

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Cobbs Creek, VA
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Re: Softbank not likely to speed up LTE rollout

looks great

Moropo
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Theres no LTE in my house or university but I have driven to towers I know have LTE (as reported at »s4gru.com/) and look at the speeds I have gotten.

I know they wont stay like this once more people jump on it, but it sure is sweet.
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Jim_in_VA

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Re: Softbank not likely to speed up LTE rollout

yup, impressive

neonhomer
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Edgewater, FL
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Key West before Daytona Beach?

Okay.. Sprint is a major sponsor, or should I say THE major sponsor of NASCAR, and they have two huge ass races in Daytona Beach every year... Yet Key West gets LTE before Daytona? Nevermind all of the Sprint customers that live in the area, but all of the Sprint customers who come to the area to see the race(s).

I don't know why I am bitching... even if they turn on LTE in Daytona, the smaller surrounding cities probably won't get it for years to come.
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jeff17

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US

Re: Key West before Daytona Beach?

Key West is very small = easy-to-serve. Low hanging fruit.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Key West before Daytona Beach?

LTE rollout is being tracked here...

»s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-n···ng-list/
iansltx

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Austin, TX
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Actually, the way Sprint is rolling out LTE, small cities in the same general area as big ones will get LTE upgrades not terribly long after the city centers. In some cases before.

For example, Kerrville and Fredericksburg, TX both have LTE live (albeit only on one tower). They're part of the San Antonio market.

88615298
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West Tenness

9 whole cities huh?

What a joke. Verizon does double to triple that every month.

Jim_in_VA

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Cobbs Creek, VA
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Re: 9 whole cities huh?

deeper pockets
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Re: 9 whole cities huh?

And because Sprint is doing an entire network refresh, forklift upgrade of entire site. Equipment lead times are longer. Verizon is adding LTE to existing infrastructure.
Prespd

join:2004-03-10
Wyoming, MI

SF Bay area coverage

As far as I can tell, coverage in SF Bay area extends from around Cupertino along 280 to 85, 101,237. Coverage is strong from Cupertino to Menlo Park on the peninsula and across the Dumbarton bridge. LTE signal penetrates the Newark/Fremont zone already, but many dead spots with no LTE and very slow 3G.

I live in Newark, about 5 minutes from the bridge area, and can't get LTE at my house inside or out, but do around the corner.

dnoyeB
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I've learned this trick too

This is what you have to do to keep management quiet. "Deploy" everything. "Oh yea, that module is done. Might have some bugs in it, but its done." plays much better than "were still working the bugs out of that one."

If you try to release solid well tested code with minimum bugs, in the mean time, management will feel as if you aren't accomplishing anything.

Release early and often with as little change as you can between versions. They only see what you put out. They don't see all the work that went into it.
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skeechan
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Weird rollouts

Deploying in Waco, TX before Los Angeles or Orange County seems odd to me. Seems if you are a telcom you would want to redline like an M-Fer to get the ROI as quickly as possible. We do have Sprint WiMax which works great with my Clearwire puck.

88615298
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West Tenness

Re: Weird rollouts

Fewer people in Waco. Imagine millions of people in LA all trying to use Sprint's unlimited data on LTE? Talk about having a network come to a screeching halt.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Re: Weird rollouts

There's a better explanation:

LA has over 1100 towers.
Waco? A couple dozen.

Guess which is easier to deploy?

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4
you have some kind of gripe with Sprint ..BF?
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88615298
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West Tenness

Re: Weird rollouts

said by Jim_in_VA:

you have some kind of gripe with Sprint ..BF?

Yeah they need to quit telling everyone how fucking awesome they are when they don't even serve most of the country.

Jim_in_VA

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Cobbs Creek, VA
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Re: Weird rollouts

only in your little corner of TN ...checked the coverage map lately?
iansltx

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There's another way to redline: go where others haven't yet. US Cellular is doing this with their LTE.

In the case of Sprint, Waco in particular was Ericsson's demo market for LTE. Each vendor (Alcatel-Lucent, Samsung, Ericsson) had one, though I forget where AlcaLu's was (Samsung's was Kanakee, near Chicago).

Also, it's easier to complete a market that has ten towers (many small cities that Sprint serves, population 50k or less) than it is to complete a market with 1000 towers (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.). Particularly when your LTE network doesn't cover more area per tower (at the expense of overcrowding later) like Verizon's does.
en103

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Re: Weird rollouts

AT&T did that in Alaska.

AVD
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Bronx, NYC

FWIW my brother has been very sporadically connecting to LTE sites near the Botanical Garden on his Sprint issued iPhone5. He thinks he;s getting AT&T cells open for Sandy, but I'm not to sure.
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iansltx

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Austin, TX
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Re: Bronx, NYC

Nope. He's getting Sprint LTE. There are a bunch of upgraded (Network Vision) sites in NYC, but only a small fraction have LTE turned on quite yet.
xirian
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Beacon, NY
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Theres a bunch of upgraded towers in that area, but most are marked as having 3g only. Maybe they're testing LTE on them. Theres an interactive map on s4guru, but you have to donate to get access.

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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How many

Tower dogs/climbers are there to go around? With all the top tier Celco's expanding that is a finite resource.
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georgeglass5

join:2010-06-07
New York, NY

Had more than enough waiting for sprint.

Pffft 9 more coming soon... Laughable... Yeah, you go & wait...
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: Had more than enough waiting for sprint.

Funny, your market is actually moving along at a fair clip on upgrades. Backhaul is preventing LTE from coming online at my sites quite yet, but the hard work of swapping out antennas/etc. is done.
Der_Idiot

join:2008-02-10
Norwood Young America, MN

LTE rollout

My friend just finished a confirmed Sprint wiring job in Hugo, MN. Sounds like it has LTE lit up, I just don't want to drive a 2 hour round trip to find out (well, not during a week night at least).
floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA
Reviews:
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·Clearwire Wireless

Not enough cellular coverage

In stead of deploying LTE they should expand the cellular cover because they have so little coverage without the use of the Verizon wireless cellular network. Expand cellular coverage then roll out LTE. It would be cheaper in the long run for Sprint to expand there cellular coverage instead of relying on the Verizon cellular network for the extra cellular coverage.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

fix nyc

all of the towers in ny metro don't seem to be operating at their peak pre-hurricaine levels.. how about fixing that?