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Sprint, Clearwire Complete WiMax Union
Now comes the hard part...
by Karl Bode 04:08PM Friday Nov 28 2008
Sprint and Clearwire today announced that they've completed their merger of Clearwire and XOHM, in order to create a new nationwide mobile WiMax operator. The companies repeated that the new company hopes to deliver wireless broadband service to 140 million people within thirty months. The completion of the network will be greatly aided by a $3.2 billion investment Comcast ($1.05 billion), Intel ($1 billion), Time Warner Cable ($550 million), Google ($500 million), and Bright House Networks ($100 million.)

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Best news for WiMAX

This is the best news we've heard so far for the future of WiMAX technology. It will be interesting to see if the XOHM brand will remain or they will use the Clearwire name from now on.
ashworth

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Re: Best news for WiMAX

I believe the catchy new name is "New Clearwire",no joke.
cafields

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Muncie, IN

Re: Best news for WiMAX

The new company retains the name Clearwire and remains headquartered in Kirkland, Washington.

drunkagain

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i don't think so ... put your money on CLEAR

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Karl needs to take math class

The completion of the network will be gratly aided by a $2 billion investment Comcast ($1.05 billion), Intel ($1 billion), Time Warner Cable ($550 million), Google ($500 million), and Bright House Networks ($100 million.)

1.05 billion + 1 billion + 550 million + 500 million + 100 million = over 3 billion not 2 billion. 3.2 billion to be exact.

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Re: Karl needs to take math class

Whoops, somehow edited out the "3." portion by accident. Appreciate the polite correction.

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Re: Karl needs to take math class

said by Karl Bode:

Whoops, somehow edited out the "3." portion by accident. Appreciate the polite correction.
Sorry, genetic testing has determined I lack the TACT gene.

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Re: Karl needs to take math class

No problem. I often don't wear pants.
tmc8080

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drum roll please.....

nextel: part 2

Smile__
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I am so ready for this..

This is going to grow like crazy.. Yahooo...

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within thirty months. ???

»Sprint, Clearwire Complete WiMax Union
new company hopes to deliver wireless broadband service to 140 million people within thirty months.
Where did this time guesstimate come from?? It wasn't at the link mentioned in the BBR story.

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Re: within thirty months. ???

It's their own prediction and has repeatedly been doled out to the media (myself included)...it's also in FCC filings:
New Clearwire will deploy an advanced mobile WiMAX broadband network that will cover up to 140 million people in the United States in thirty months.
They also like to throw out the prediction of 60-80 million by 2009, 140 million by 2010 and 200 million by 2011. Whether they actually get anywhere near that is of course anybody's guess...

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Re: within thirty months. ???

said by Karl Bode:

It's their own prediction and has repeatedly been doled out to the media (myself included)...it's also in FCC filings:
New Clearwire will deploy an advanced mobile WiMAX broadband network that will cover up to 140 million people in the United States in thirty months.
They also like to throw out the prediction of 60-80 million by 2009, 140 million by 2010 and 200 million by 2011.
That will be about 45% of the US population by 2010, which is at about 305 million right now. They may make noises about rural development of Wimax, but they will only get near those numbers if they are deploying mostly in metro areas.
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Re: within thirty months. ???

They may make noises about rural development of Wimax, but they will only get near those numbers if they are deploying mostly in metro areas.
Yeah, I think it's been pretty well established they plan to target major metro markets. I think the lip service to rural deployment is mostly lip service to get people all hot and bothered...
Last month, Sprint launched its first WiMax urban deployment in Baltimore to generally favorable reviews. Clearwire has been testing a mobile WiMax deployment in Portland, Ore., and is preparing to go live with that network early next year. In a conference call following the release of Clearwire's financial report, Wolff indicated the company might be able to use so-called "white spaces" spectrum, which is unlicensed and was approved for free use by the FCC last week.

"We think of it as expanded Wi-Fi," Wolff said. "I think that presents some interesting opportunities for us, and will be looking at how we might leverage it in the rural areas." He noted that Google, its new investing partner, pushed hard for passage of the white-spaces spectrum.
Not willing yet to say they won't succeed, but I think it's a pretty huge uphill battle any which way they make the assault on mount AT&T/Verizon.

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140 million?

Try 2 million. Max.

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Re: within thirty months. ???

said by Mike:

140 million?

Try 2 million. Max.
I am sure that the 140 million mentioned was a homes reachable stat and not how many customers they expect. Unless you really meant that their coverage maps will only reach 2 million homes - but I think that would be way too low.
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FightingBlue1

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Mike, with the three cities that they already have networks in, they probably already cover a lot more than two million people.

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Re: within thirty months. ???

Look at Chicago, DC, Baltimore, Dallas and Boston already.. What's that? Close ot 30 million?

kamm

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Re: within thirty months. ???

Hah,

add NYC to it and you are likely to be over 40M...
RL1138

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Hoping it works out

I have heard a lot of impressive stuff regarding the capabilities of WiMax so I am hoping this venture is somewhat successful. I don't know if they will nab the numbers they claim but if the technology works as well as the trials are conducting now, they may get a good amount of people on board. I like the idea of sending a picture I took on a WiMax enabled camera to my computer at home. Of course the only device I have seen is a Nokia internet tablet which is supposed to utilize WiMax. Other toys may be a ways off. Anyway, I hope some success is achieved.
ophelus

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Kansas City, MO

Competition is a good thing..

with most area's having a minimum/maximum of 2 providers per area.. cable/dsl

Adding a 3rd is good for everyone.. let's hope they can do it.. I know I'll be glad to see it.. but in a long term future where the higher mbit you can deliver the better.. this is the question I really have for wimax..

It's 1st hop ms are to be honest outrageous
Cable - 6-10 ms
DSL - usually about 40 ms
ADSL - 10 ms
Sprint/Clearwire in Boston - 60-70 ms

Because with Docsis 3.0 rolling out on the cable networks at 50+ mbit.. who the hell can keep up with them but super slow and nowhere verizon fiber?

The real question is does sprint/clearwire have a true upgradable path... ??