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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: They even have a map of Cell Sites on their site to be fair though its hard to miss a tower and I think as RF transmitters one could go to the FCC and ask for all the cell tower locations.
or even city zoning would know them.
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Utica, MI | You can find all of Sprint's towers on this map. Just type in your zip code to find the ones near you:
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Louisiana | Re: They even have a map of Cell Sites on their site said by mix:You can find all of Sprint's towers on this map. Just type in your zip code to find the ones near you:
»network.sprint.com/
That's not all of them. That's only the ones that are on the list that have been upgraded 6 months ago or are planning being upgraded in 6 months.
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Grove City, PA | Signal strength can vary between two phones at same location, especially between smart phones and cheap ones. | |
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Toledo, OH | yes and they still do. T-Mobile, CellCo and ATT Mobility will not tell you their locations.
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Don't forget that the cell sites are also alarmed. The moment that door is opened, someone knows.
Realistically, you can't keep any transmitter location secret. Anyone with a spectrum analyzer and a suitable antenna could easily pinpoint the source of a transmission if they wanted to. | |
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|  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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Onion, NJ | said by IowaCowboy:I thought that cell providers kept cell site locations confidential for the security of their infrastructure (national security, vandalism, etc). However they are easily found just by going on a Sunday drive. They do have chain link fences around them with razor wire on them and they have warning signs.
your nextel in debug mode will report the lat/lon of the cell site it is connected to
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Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
AT&T had to convert all the former CDMA Alltel areas they acquired to UMTS/HSPA+ in a year and managed it.
But pathetic Sprint can't even manage to co-locate their SMALL ridiculous footprint with Nextel.
They botch everything they do and are failures. Its sad Verizon surpassed what took Sprint 4 years to build in just 3 months with their LTE network.
And everyone is *excited* about network vision. Well they are ALL delusional because if they actually saw what was going on they would know that all these upgrades are, are what SHOULD have been done years ago. They are just playing catchup because they have let their network degrade so significantly. | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: If this actually meant something said by iFail 5G:All this means for Sprint is more cost cutting, I have heard in many areas like mine where ONLY Nextel has coverage and not CDMA, they are just decommissioning the sites completely. Its been what 7 years or so since the merger, and Sprint has been so irresponsible they HAVENT supplemented Nextel coverage with CDMA everywhere yet?
Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
AT&T had to convert all the former CDMA Alltel areas they acquired to UMTS/HSPA+ in a year and managed it.
But pathetic Sprint can't even manage to co-locate their SMALL ridiculous footprint with Nextel.
They botch everything they do and are failures. Its sad Verizon surpassed what took Sprint 4 years to build in just 3 months with their LTE network.
And everyone is *excited* about network vision. Well they are ALL delusional because if they actually saw what was going on they would know that all these upgrades are, are what SHOULD have been done years ago. They are just playing catchup because they have let their network degrade so significantly.
I assume that your username VZW doesn't imply anything to do with you running down a competitor. Does it? 
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| | | | Re: If this actually meant something said by Romney2012:I assume that your username VZW doesn't imply anything to do with you running down a competitor. Does it?
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| | | | said by Romney2012:said by iFail 5G:All this means for Sprint is more cost cutting, I have heard in many areas like mine where ONLY Nextel has coverage and not CDMA, they are just decommissioning the sites completely. Its been what 7 years or so since the merger, and Sprint has been so irresponsible they HAVENT supplemented Nextel coverage with CDMA everywhere yet?
Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
AT&T had to convert all the former CDMA Alltel areas they acquired to UMTS/HSPA+ in a year and managed it.
But pathetic Sprint can't even manage to co-locate their SMALL ridiculous footprint with Nextel.
They botch everything they do and are failures. Its sad Verizon surpassed what took Sprint 4 years to build in just 3 months with their LTE network.
And everyone is *excited* about network vision. Well they are ALL delusional because if they actually saw what was going on they would know that all these upgrades are, are what SHOULD have been done years ago. They are just playing catchup because they have let their network degrade so significantly.
I assume that your username VZW doesn't imply anything to do with you running down a competitor. Does it? No, seeing as Sprint is NOT a direct competitor with AT&T, they compete with the other low end provider, T-Mobile  | |
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Etobicoke, ON | Re: If this actually meant something said by swintec:I don't think Sprint wanted to integrate them to begin with. Nextel had a loyal following with dedicated customers for what the technology would do for them. Walkie-Talkie, etc. Why would they even try to merge the two when they didnt have a solution for that out yet? At this point I believe they do have a workable solution which is why they have started the process.
Sssshhh. Don't ruin a completely retarded rant with a sound argument. | |
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I don't think Sprint wanted to integrate them to begin with. Nextel had a loyal following with dedicated customers for what the technology would do for them. Walkie-Talkie, etc. Why would they even try to merge the two when they didnt have a solution for that out yet? At this point I believe they do have a workable solution which is why they have started the process. I will do all I can to avoid giving money to the asshats at AT&T and Verizon. The least Sprint could have done in these last 7 years, is Co-Locate and add a CDMA panel to every iDEN tower that doesn't receive native Sprint service, no excuses why they haven't done that by now.. If their native network was as good as iDEN to begin with, QCHAT 1 would have worked better than it did. But having a sorry 3G network doesn't mix well with low latency PTT services. | |
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| | | | | Re: If this actually meant something said by iFail 5G:said by swintec:said by iFail 5G:Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
I don't think Sprint wanted to integrate them to begin with. Nextel had a loyal following with dedicated customers for what the technology would do for them. Walkie-Talkie, etc. Why would they even try to merge the two when they didnt have a solution for that out yet? At this point I believe they do have a workable solution which is why they have started the process. I will do all I can to avoid giving money to the asshats at AT&T and Verizon. The least Sprint could have done in these last 7 years, is Co-Locate and add a CDMA panel to every iDEN tower that doesn't receive native Sprint service, no excuses why they haven't done that by now.. If their native network was as good as iDEN to begin with, QCHAT 1 would have worked better than it did. But having a sorry 3G network doesn't mix well with low latency PTT services. I'm sure it came down to a cost analysis. The area probably doesn't have the number of customers they think is needed to support network deployment. They may have determined that paying for roaming is cheaper than running new backhaul to the tower.
It is possible that once the iDEN equipment is removed that the new network vision equipment will be moved in. I wouldn't count on that happening but it is possible.
As far as Verizon integrating things that was CDMA to CDMA. att had more resources to move people around and they didn't really care if they made people mad. Sprint was trying to appease the people that rely on PTT until a workable solution came about. It seems that they have something that will do most of what the old PTT did and will be able to do it while roaming. | |
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State College, PA | what does it mean for public safety? does this mean Sprint will simply vacate the ESMR bandwidth and not have to pay any more for rebanding? | |
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Toledo, OH | Sprint tired this SEVERAL times and has failed each and every time. It's going to fail again, and Sprint is going to face a major lawsuit by companies and gov't agencies that are still signing up or using iDEN solutions. | |
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| | | | | Re: If this actually meant something said by NWOhio:Sprint tired this SEVERAL times and has failed each and every time. It's going to fail again, and Sprint is going to face a major lawsuit by companies and gov't agencies that are still signing up or using iDEN solutions.
A "major lawsuit"...LOL!! Yeah, you hold your breath waiting on that major lawsuit to show up. | |
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Toledo, OH | Re: If this actually meant something ever heard of First Energy Corp? They're one of the largest Nextel customers for PPT and just renewed that iDEN contract last year. If they can't use it and service goes down hill they will sue Sprint. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: If this actually meant something  Yeah right. They signed up for PTT service. Why should they care what technology it comes from? When they shut down iDEN in their area, they'll simply migrate them over to Sprint Direct Connect and keep it pushing. There will be no lawsuits, business will continue as usual. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | said by iFail 5G:Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
AT&T had to convert all the former CDMA Alltel areas they acquired to UMTS/HSPA+ in a year and managed it.
I'm no Sprint "fanboi" but I'll point out the following. What you do with it is up to you. VZ's takeover of Alltel went fast because they used the same CDMA systems. Same for AT&T. Now, I've seen and experienced VZ's inability to convert. They just do layoffs and decommissioned the CO's. All it took for VZ to take over Alltell was re-route it's tfc (simple translations change, toss is some routes and tada!) and then send out some banners and stickers to cover up the old names. CDMA/iDEN are two completly different systems and if you think VZ could have done any better, you need to stop drinking the koolaid. I will agree Sprint has screwed the pooch from day one on the take over of Nextel. Nextel was already in tank. It turned out to be Sprint saved nextel from a fast and painful death. But it has sucked the company dry. None of it's central office techs are Sprint anymore. They are ALL and I mean every single last one of them are contractors who don't give a crap about the network. They just show up, do as little as possible and go home. All one has to do is look at Sprints ION fiasco, then WiMAX, now LTE. Burn billions and never see anything to the end. | |
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| | | | Re: If this actually meant something said by tc1uscg:said by iFail 5G:Sprint fanboi's make excuses, but there is NO excuse, Verizon purchased Alltel in 08" and integration was done by what 2010 in just 2 years?
AT&T had to convert all the former CDMA Alltel areas they acquired to UMTS/HSPA+ in a year and managed it.
I'm no Sprint "fanboi" but I'll point out the following. What you do with it is up to you. VZ's takeover of Alltel went fast because they used the same CDMA systems. Same for AT&T. Now, I've seen and experienced VZ's inability to convert. They just do layoffs and decommissioned the CO's. All it took for VZ to take over Alltell was re-route it's tfc (simple translations change, toss is some routes and tada!) and then send out some banners and stickers to cover up the old names. CDMA/iDEN are two completly different systems and if you think VZ could have done any better, you need to stop drinking the koolaid. I will agree Sprint has screwed the pooch from day one on the take over of Nextel. Nextel was already in tank. It turned out to be Sprint saved nextel from a fast and painful death. But it has sucked the company dry. None of it's central office techs are Sprint anymore. They are ALL and I mean every single last one of them are contractors who don't give a crap about the network. They just show up, do as little as possible and go home. All one has to do is look at Sprints ION fiasco, then WiMAX, now LTE. Burn billions and never see anything to the end. I'm excited for this new network vision, I am however upset at how late this has been dragged on. I know though for a fact Verizon or AT&T could have at the very least co-located all the areas with only iDEN coverage and swapped out an iDEN panel for a 1900mhz CDMA EV/1X panel on each sector, there are still a good chunk of areas without CDMA.
As for integrating iDEN, you are right because it never should have happened. That was a mess right from the beginning and I am not blaming them for not already decommissioning the iDEN network, I am however faulting them entirely for not having at least caught the CDMA network up to par with iDEN coverage. | |
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Laurel, MD | 2013, or 2012? According to the map, things are going to start happening already this year. Mid-April, my area. Not that I'll lose all service then (but who knows). They don't have exact details yet, but say:
"Selected Nextel towers are expected to be taken off-air and surrounding towers* will be optimized at the same time to maximize coverage continuity in an impacted area.
Nextel coverage on the street/in a car should not be impacted. Nextel users may experience changes to their call coverage when inside a building."
So yeah, time to start looking for a new carrier.
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Toledo, OH | Breach of Contract Doesn't Sprint see this as breach of contract? they're still signing people up for service on Nextel and are promoting it very well in their stores. If they sign people up with them and then kill that area; Sprint is very much in breach of contract. Great way to be sold.
But also Sprint has been claiming they were going to do this for YEARS and yet; still nothing. Sprint should have moved over iDEN customers to start off with back when they took over Nextel but never did. Dan didn't know shit about how to migrate customers over and still doesn't. And is gonna end up with a HUGE lawsuit- especially with First Energy Corp. just renewed their multi-year contract with them for iDEN (an their contract is LONGER than 2 years) | |
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Toledo, OH | Re: Breach of Contract and yet those people on contracts deserve NOT to sign up and get their service shut off in months because Sprint is stupid.
Maybe i should go sign up with a bunch of people just so come June Sprint loses more money and their network/ass to the customers.
And sprint won't keep unlimited data- they're only taking the upgrade cause they have on other options since they crewed up before with Nextel and failed to upgrade their CDMA network when they could. And now since their network is going to be on a different frequency than anyone else's they won't even have a roaming network. | |
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Westminster, MD | Der Did they get Gary Forsee's permission to do this?, after all he was the driver for this ill fated venture. Augered the company right into the ground and then floated away on his golden parchute. 
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