  Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
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while amoled is totally useless in direct sunlight and plain old TN panels in all other phones are maybe 10% visible, superamoled are ~80% visible in direct sunlight. it is on par with IPS panels used on iphone4 and other devices.
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| | | | | Re: happy with my Evo Options are good overall. I prefer EVO's large screen. Others want physical board. Epic also supposed to have faster graphics, especially for gaming. Most everyone wins. No choices in the iPhone world. | |
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kudos:12 | I don't know about the AMOLED, but I am also very happy with my EVO. Mainly due to the large screen and HTC Sense UI. | |
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kudos:12 | Re: happy with my Evo said by xenophon:There's a third party app launcher that is similar to HTC Sense for those who prefer Sense. Haven't tried it since I have Sense. Sense is much more than a simple launcher. Having used the stock Android OS on a Droid, Sense "completes" the OS so to speak. | |
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kudos:1 | indeed. TouchWiz 3.0 is actually pretty good.
That said, I use LauncherPro anyways. | |
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| |  GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
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Hollywood, FL | said by Matt:I don't know about the AMOLED, but I am also very happy with my EVO. Mainly due to the large screen and HTC Sense UI. I agree, and frankly I don't get Gizmodo's constant bashing of the battery and the size.
You know what you're getting into with it in terms of size. And on the battery....I charge mine daily overnight. If you use it every waking moment then yea it won't probably last depending on the use.
But heck, I've had my EVO go 20 hrs. Sure the radios were turned off for about 4 hrs of that but still...and I was traveling which means I use it even more than I do on a normal day.
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Irmo, SC | Re: happy with my Evo I turn off gps, wifi, bt, all of it. Only leave the phone on and only allow a few apps to auto update. If I don't touch my phone for anything other than a few calls, it will last 10+ easy. (I just can't seem to leave it alone that long is the problem.) | |
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congrats on your EVO, it s a nice phone, but of the many huge advantages of super amoled over tft, you picked the one criteria where they are merely equal, use in direct sunlight. | |
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| said by Subaru:I've seen the samsungs with these displays and it's not so great in sunlight (I know they said the super AMOLED is better) but that and the color seems a bit un-natural. I think you're just used to the washed-out look of LCD's. And i'm sure being an Evo owner, you're not biased at all. Personally, I've owned both, and can't say I will ever have the desire to go back to an LCD based device.
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kudos:12 | Re: happy with my Evo said by ydoucare:said by Subaru:I've seen the samsungs with these displays and it's not so great in sunlight (I know they said the super AMOLED is better) but that and the color seems a bit un-natural. I think you're just used to the washed-out look of LCD's. And i'm sure being an Evo owner, you're not biased at all. Personally, I've owned both, and can't say I will ever have the desire to go back to an LCD based device. Even the review says the AMOLED screen has a blue'ish tint to it ... | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Why would anyone put out 350$ following that logic you will wait indefinitely wait for something better to comeout.
plus it won't cost $350 if you shop around. by comparison driod2 directly from vz cost $300($200 after $100 rebate), but letstalk.com has it for $75 w/o mailin rebates. i'm sure they'll have Epic4g for $100 w/o rebates too.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Why would anyone put out 350$ letstalk.com, bestbuy, amazon, wirefly
these are the top 4 places i can think of off the top of my head where to get phones for decent prices. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Why would anyone put out 350$ they might have phone w/o contracts, but most discounts go only with contract.
you get discounts because carrier recoup their costs w/ your monthly fees.
w/o those fees they have no incentive to discount phones.
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It depends on whether Phone7 is being forced fed to us yet. I can't remember the timetable. My only interest in Phone7 is to avoid it.
If there's a WinMo 6.5 device+4g coming down the pipe, I'd pick that first. Once unlocked, those things are configurable as heck; with lots of pre-packed firmwares choices being distributed.
I'm opting to let the Android market become a little more developed before I'll jump into it. And Android is where I'll eventually end up; because there won't be any other choices for folks who resent being owned and manipulated by Big TelPhone.
said by dellsweig:I wonder what the resale value will be on this one in a year? Percentage wise; better than a new car.
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| |  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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Onion, NJ | Re: Why would anyone put out 350$ I would never pay for a winmo phone. The android is just so much better. (right now using a palm pro with 6.5.3). The windows platform is just stagnant. It really isn't a smartphone compared to iPhone or Android.
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1 edit | Re: Where's the 4G edit:If it helps; it looks like Verizon has Birmingham on their 4G/LTE roadmap for 2011.
said by iLive4Fusion:Were still waiting on 4G  I have still with both these phone's yet to have seen someone hit 1gbps stationary and 100mbps mobile with any Sprint "4G" device. Now when those speed's are achieved, then we will have real 4G. Yea, I should prepend any 4G comments I make with "As Soon as they deliver 4G to my market,".
So far Sprint/Clearwire has announced Miami and delivered Jacksonville. Those cities are 200-300 miles away from my Tampa market. We're not on any WiMax rollout map yet.
However, my Sprint EVDO is pretty solid here; I can hold out for some time.
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Roseville, CA | Re: Hardware good, software blows said by AzzKicker:The Hardware may be good, but HTC sense UI is better. Better is subjective.. I for one do not think Sense in any way is better. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Hardware good, software blows I agree. Sense is nice, but Stock Android is the only thing better than TouchWiz 3.0. | |
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[Update: We just spoke with Samsung, who told us that Google is now requiring that the "use wireless networks" setting for location-based services be turned off by default in Android devices -- in other words, no AGPS unless you manually enable it. Sure enough, we went into Settings, found that it was disabled on the Epic, turned it on, and we were good to go. No GPS bug!]
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And how is it that here are Moto and HTC Androids just coming out that do not have aGPS network Aquitaine of GPS assistance off by default?
Sounds fishy, and if accurate, even worse a permanent problem unique to samsung which they just said last week they would fix! | |
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Part of samsung's problem has come from their aGPS server being improperly configured, and their firmware incorrectly managing that.
Google's solution could be because of a privacy settlement/issue/requirement. Alternatively, it could be to mitigate future issues of improperly configured 3rd party servers that make basic Andoid functions not work properly.
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I thought it was just my N1, but I played around with the Galaxy S and while it's better, the screen still looks awful to me. I like solid black levels as much as the next guy, but AMOLED seems to be too much of a trade off. | |
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1 edit | I wish it wasn't a Samsung I really like Hummingbird but 2 things stop me from considering Samsung.
1. Their poor track record at supporting/releasing updates for their existing phones (even b4 their android models). My brother is on its 5th Moment because of the GPS issue. And he is really irritated that Samsung is not releasing a Froyo update for it, a phone that's not even a year old and its perfectly capable of running it. Prior to this the WinMo based ones I had were often left in 'update limbo' by Samsung who instead would release a V2 version of the same model and expected you to 'upgrade' to it rather than fixing their original release.
Which brings me to:
2. Samsung by far seems to release new phone models far too frequently, which would be ok except it introduces problem #1, were perfectly capable phones are left in update limbo.
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kudos:6 | Nice featureset, but it is a Samsung I'm definitely considering it. The problem is that I've had Samsungs in the past, many quite feature-packed for their time, but they couldn't take much abuse. Sometimes they just quit working for no apparent reason. I just don't trust Samsung like I trust HTC, and in the old days, Sanyo.
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1 edit | Re: Nice featureset, but it is a Samsung Can't remember the most recent one, but I had some mega-problems with MM-A700, even after 2 replacements. | |
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Miami, FL | EVO It is annoying that Sprint is in full scale advertisement mode regarding the EVO and they cannot deliver it. No stores in the Miami area have them. Calls to the store say they have no idea of deliveries and many do not have a wait list any longer. | |
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