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Sprint Hints at Fixed Wireless Service
by Karl Bode 10:41AM Tuesday Mar 25 2014
Sprint Chairman Masayoshi Son has been making the rounds the last few weeks trying to sell regulators (and the press) on a Sprint acquisition of T-Mobile. It remains an uphill climb, as regulators aren't keen to see T-Mobile killed off at a time when the company is being so disruptive with consumer-friendly policies. Regulators also are unlikely to want to see the wireless market move from four to three carriers, regardless of the buyer.

Still, Masayoshi Son keeps making promises in the hopes of greasing the deal rails, including stating that the merged company would somehow significantly improve U.S. broadband. Son has also recently hinted that the company might be considering a fixed wireless service. While Son is likely posturing to sell the deal, the idea of a Sprint fixed wireless service for some reason seems to have really excited the Wall Street Journal:
quote:
Posturing or not, the idea of national wireless competition to cable Internet, should it ever happen, could cause huge shifts in the pay-TV and media industries. Consumers tied to triple-play plans, which make it cheaper to buy video, broadband and phone service together, could pay one bill to their mobile carrier and get video over the Internet. That could push media firms to offer content directly to subscribers or partner with technology companies. It could also mean big things for the likes of Dish Network, which has been buying wireless spectrum and seems to be planning an Internet video service.
That's a lot of hopes and dreams rolled into one paragraph, and the Journal oddly ignores the fact that expensive, capped wireless isn't remotely comparable to fixed-line broadband, especially when HD video gets involved. Son's deal simply likely isn't to see approval either way; a more likely (but still unlikely) option would be a Dish acquisition of T-Mobile.

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nonymous
Premium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ

fixed wireless possibly with Dish partner

Dish has spectrum but no way to use it. Possible partner ship with Dish in the future. Dish does have testing going on.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·MegaPath

Re: fixed wireless possibly with Dish partner

Which makes no sense since Sprint used to offer Sprint ION service years ago. They killed it then only to bring it back. After a few years, Sprint will get rid of the product again anyway. After all that's the way Sprint works. Shut something down that actually makes $$ and has a customer base using it.

uemcgill

@clearwire-wmx.net
With eMBMS or some other magic?

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Sprint's service is not capped.

"That's a lot of hopes and dreams rolled into one paragraph, and the Journal oddly ignores the fact that expensive, capped wireless isn't remotely comparable to fixed-line broadband, especially when HD video gets involved"

Sprint offers unlimited data. Just saying. By the way much of cable internet is also capped.
nonymous
Premium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ

Re: Sprint's service is not capped.

Yes but all the good people have grandfathered unlimited on the big two at grandfathered rates. New customers who cares about as all the magazine writers and good people have theirs so no need of bad Sprint.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Sprint's service is not capped.

Fixed wireless would be a totally separate thing form their phone service.

Vchat20
Landing is the REAL challenge
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH
It's not so much about caps but tower capacity. When you start shoving a whole household of data devices at tens or hundreds of subscribed houses in the vicinity of one tower, even LTE is going to start hurting. Combine that with existing mobile devices.

Wireless should never be a substitute for wireline except for where wireline companies drag their feet and provide no or horrible service.
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TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
Unlimited is only on the phones. It is NOT unlimited on the data card products.

SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

Sprint

Sprint is the only wireless company able to provide a viable fixed LTE service. They have by far the most spectrum and they need to put it to use now!

permian

@sbcglobal.net

Re: Sprint

Have you seen the prices currently for their Fixed LTE? There's no way they're competing with any broadband provider other than sorry satellite service, if that's any indication at all.
»www.convergedigest.com/2014/02/s···ces.html

SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL
Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast

Re: Sprint

said by permian :

Have you seen the prices currently for their Fixed LTE? There's no way they're competing with any broadband provider other than sorry satellite service, if that's any indication at all.
»www.convergedigest.com/2014/02/s···ces.html

Have you seen that they haven't incorporated the vast swath of spectrum into their network?

Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
united state

This is actually pretty exciting.

They have tons of that 2500 mhz spectrum that would be perfect for fixed wireless. They could do 100-200 mbit with it. If they sold this with decent or no caps, it would be a pretty good cable killer in a lot of areas.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: This is actually pretty exciting.

said by Metatron2008:

They have tons of that 2500 mhz spectrum that would be perfect for fixed wireless. They could do 100-200 mbit with it. If they sold this with decent or no caps, it would be a pretty good cable killer in a lot of areas.

Yep Verizon's issue with their HomeFusion service is that not only do they only have a total of 20 MHz ( 10 up and 10 down ) it's the same spectrum the use for cell phone data. Sprint has 192 MHz in the "2500 MHz" spectrum. If the dedicated that solely for fixed broadband it not only would it compete with cable broadband it could help these in rural area that don't have access to cable or DSL actually get real internet.
xthepeoplesx

join:2013-10-21
If they offered NO CAPS, I would jump on it. But as is for home use I dont want to worry about getting nickel and dimed.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
This is an old product with a new name. Do you remember Sprint ION?
xthepeoplesx

join:2013-10-21

Re: This is actually pretty exciting.

I have not heard of it or remember it, but I am really tired of dealing with CenturyLink and would love it if TMobile would allow unlimited hot spot on their 20mbps service they have here!

What was ION? Unlimited?
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: This is actually pretty exciting.

ION was Sprint Broadband Direct, it was fixed wireless. Sprint ended up killing it when they dropped the PCS brand and thought they were something to be part of. Just search for Spring Broadband Direct or Sprint ION

buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME

Changes

There would have to be some big changes in contracts, and in technology for Fixed Wireless from a Cell carrier to be good enough for a household.

guhuna
5149.5
Premium
join:2001-03-31
Port Costa, CA

Again?

Didn't they do this some years back already?
»Sprint Broadband Direct Goes Offline July 31
existenz

join:2014-02-12
kudos:2

Re: Again?

The difference here is that Sprint has over 100Mhz spectrum in 2.5Ghz band for most markets and they are now using a standard protocol (LTE). They can also get additional economies of scale because Softbank is using same band in Japan.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Again?

Economies of scale doesn't work when you offered the product before and then killed it only to bring it back. They killed it once, they'll kill it again.

Sprint was a cheap carrier then, they'll be cheap now.
sparky007

join:2011-08-25
Avondale, AZ
Reviews:
·Vonage
YEP.. I had it back in 2001 - 2002.

It used to be www.sprintbroadband.com

Then the idiots did away with it. They didn't want to renew the spectrum license.

The modem was made by Hybrid which is now out of business and they would mount a diamond shape antenna on your roof.

Besides.. Didn't sprint take ownership of Clear??
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Again?

Yes, which offered Fixed data already.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
i had that service. the upload was a anemic 64kbps most of the time.
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robbyglack

@comcastbusiness.net

1 recommendation

clear was offering this

clear offered home modem for years, sprint essentially killed that program.

there is really nothing to talk about, if they want to do this they should just do it. offer a home router with wimax, lte and CDMA and a flat price for unlimited service. it either works or it doesn't

sprint talking about what they may do in the future is getting really really tiring. sprint needs to shut up and take action. if they want do fixed wireless they should release something not talk about it.

wesm
Premium
join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA

Re: clear was offering this

said by robbyglack :

clear offered home modem for years, sprint essentially killed that program.

They'll still let you sign up as long as you have hardware. I have a functioning, subscribed Clear WiMAX home base station (with built-in wireless NAT device, no less) sitting about 5 feet from me.

robbyglack

@comcastbusiness.net

they should forget about 'fixed'

if sprint really wants to make some waves instead of or in addition to a 'fixed' solution they should offer an unlimited and inexpensive MiFi service and/or unlimited mobile hot spot tethering option(officially without any end user hack.) eventually the broadband cord is going to be cut just like the phone cord has been for many people. sprint has the spectrum to get in early on the game.

IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1

1 recommendation

Hey Sprint...

Work on your "mobile" wireless service first. Your LTE footprint in/around DC leaves much to be desired. Thanks.
nonymous
Premium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ

Re: Hey Sprint...

said by IPPlanMan:

Work on your "mobile" wireless service first. Your LTE footprint in/around DC leaves much to be desired. Thanks.

Everything is being worked on together. Lte, spark etc is basically the same upgrade. Now spark will need more backhaul but they already know that so why trying to get fiber or fiber like to most.cell sites with options for speed.upgrades for say spark when needed.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Hey Sprint...

And when things aren't ready to be launched they're working on launching something else. Sprint will NEVER learn their lesson.

why60loss

join:2012-09-20

1 recommendation

How about............

You fix your own network and leave T-Mobile alone already.
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·EarthLink

1 recommendation

The journal ...

"oddly ignores the fact that expensive, capped wireless isn't remotely comparable to fixed-line broadband, especially when video gets involved..."

and Karl oddly ignores the fact that fixed wireless can be throttled, not necessarily capped, and doesn't have to be expensive, relative to slower [existing] fixed-line broadband options. He further ignores and even opposes the potential for "toll-free" wireless service to obviate meter-anxiety for streaming video content on capped plans.

Wireless has limits, but it is quite apropos for low-density locations where copper is dying off and the population isn't willing to pay the market rate for "better" wired broadband options.
nonymous
Premium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ

Re: The journal ...

said by elray:

"oddly ignores the fact that expensive, capped wireless isn't remotely comparable to fixed-line broadband, especially when video gets involved..."

and Karl oddly ignores the fact that fixed wireless can be throttled, not necessarily capped, and doesn't have to be expensive, relative to slower [existing] fixed-line broadband options. He further ignores and even opposes the potential for "toll-free" wireless service to obviate meter-anxiety for streaming video content on capped plans.

Wireless has limits, but it is quite apropos for low-density locations where copper is dying off and the population isn't willing to pay the market rate for "better" wired broadband options.

This may be more like a fixed wireless and say Dish comes and installs it. Whatever device they use will be bigger than a cell and can contain however many antennas it needs to use any available spectrum. Plus since fixed plug in power no battery worries.

compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN

Nah...

HomeFusion clone on Sprint? Nah, price prohibitive.....
bcltoys

join:2008-07-21
Lost today

Range?

Wonder what the range will be,proly short with none penetration of trees.
srtdodge05

join:2011-10-16
Dearborn, MI

Its already out

NETGEAR® LTE Gateway 6100D
»shop.sprint.com/mysprint/shop/ph···005&ptn=

wimaxer

@158.82.202.x

Re: Its already out

Device is there buy you only get 30GB for $100+. Most families would burn through that pretty quick. The device is being marketed as a redundant back up for businesses. Would be good/great if they took the device, applied it to unlimited Spark, and charged something competitive to the cable companies. I have benefit of a grandfathered WiMax desktop set up, $50 a month, unlimited, no throttle, supports gobs of demand.
kmcmurtrie

join:2006-04-18
Sunnyvale, CA
kudos:1

In case you don't have morse code?

How is this helping Sprint recover from having the most overloaded network in America?

fg8578

join:2009-04-26
Salem, OR

Against their will?

It's pretty obvious T-Mobile wants to be acquired.

First it was AT&T and now it's Sprint. Yet the government won't let them. So the government is gonna force them to remain an independent company against the wishes of the company's own management and shareholders.

Why would our government force a company to exist that doesn't want to?
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·MegaPath

Re: Against their will?

DT wants T-Mobile USA to be acquired. There is several different T-Mobiles. And the one they want to sell is the USA version. They should just do an IPO and allow it to be on its own. Or sell it to VodaFone.

And they tell them they can't merge because the next story on here would be- TMO/Sprint/Softbank should be broken up because they control the prepaid market.