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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ
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| Is Verizon Next? I wonder how long it is before Verizon offers this service? They have promised a new tower in this area for years and every time I contact the district engineer, it is pushed back a few months.
The township committee signed a lease at the DPW building, but Verizon has not applied to the planning board yet, so it is at least 10 months away. This device on Verizon would fill in a BIG hole for me.
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 | NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY | Re: Is Verizon Next? I wish I could find the reference, but Verizon is going to do something similar. I had seen it, quoted it but alas......now I cannot find the original.
So there is hope for you to get a femtocel in your home (I believe sometime this year). | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Is Verizon Next? You'd think Verizon (along with "the new" at&t) would be reluctant to do this, as it could increase the number of people dropping the cash cow landline telephone for cellular-only- I suppose they figure that if people are going to drop the landline, it's better to have them on VZW than on Sprint or T-Mobile. | |
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pende_tim
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Andover, NJ | Re: Found it Yea I saw a article a while back stating they were going to do it some time in 2008, but that is rather vague. So far nothing I can order and use. | |
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
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| Re: Found it said by pende_tim  :Yea I saw a article a while back stating they were going to do it some time in 2008, but that is rather vague. So far nothing I can order and use. Agreed, but I do think they will follow along just to remain competitive. | |
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DoRight
join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Tmobile already doing Theirs is only $10 a month extra... | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Tmobile already doing T-Mobile's works off WiFi. | |
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Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: Tmobile already doing So what... Diff tech... but same idea.. | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Tmobile already doing Ya, except it doesn't require a phone with another wireless chipset for WiFi. Is hooking a 2.4GHz cordless phone up to a VoIP router the same thing? | |
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join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA
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| Re: Tmobile already doing I said same idea.. I don't care about the tech.. They both improve signal in house and both give unlimited calling at home.. To the consumer most are looking at cost difference. With Sprint you gotta go out and get broadband if you do not already have it. Example my parents have dial-up.. It' wouldn't be worth it to them. No need to comment on tech... | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Tmobile already doing With T-Mobile you have to get broadband, too. Plus, with T-Mobile you have to go out and spend the extra money on a special phone if you don't already have it. | |
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Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: Tmobile already doing Well if that's the case then T-Mobile wins.. Better service.. They add millions a year.. Not lose millions a year... | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Tmobile already doing Ok, you win the T-Mobile argument in the Sprint Airave thread. | |
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join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: Tmobile already doing The funny thing is that I have a Sprint Aircard, Smartphone and the rest of my family uses Sprint.. | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI
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| Re: Tmobile already doing Yes, very humorous. I could argue all day on the subject, but I've put the simple facts out there for everyone to see, not for my or your amusement, and they're quite capable of making their own decisions based on the information given. I've seen your posts, I've seen your Sprint MBB review, and I've seen how you're misinformed about T-Mobile already doing the same thing. When someone with a CDMA phone walks into a house with this device, they should have service where they might not have otherwise. With T-Mobile, the only ones that'll have service around the device are the ones with a special phone (I wonder how that extra chip impacts battery life). | |
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join:2003-07-28
Garland, TX
| Re: Tmobile already doing The good thing about T-Mobile's service is that anywhere that there is WiFi service, you get free calling (as long as you set up your phone for each particular network). In addition, the battery isn't affected too badly with the service; my parents used it for the past year and loved the signal quality.
"When someone with a CDMA phone walks into a house with this device, they should have service where they might not have otherwise."
You're right about the device offered by Sprint in that it works with any phone. However, there is a limited number of phones you can allow to use or access it. Last I read, I believe the number was 3 or 5. 5 seems like the more logical one because their family plans max out there. How many times - in reality - is someone going to come into your house, however, and start a conversation on their cell phone anyways? | |
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| Since this works on CDMA all Sprint phones work rather than just special wifi ones.
Edit: Oops, wasn't in threaded mode and didn't see someone said basically the same thing. | |
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nytvfiber
@taconic.net
| now we wait for follow the leader... as we all know in the telecommunications industry its a big game of follow the leader. one company raises text message prices to .20 cents and then give it a few weeks and finally all of them now have .20 cent text messages. one of them pro rates ETF's and then they all do. so it will be nice that soon we all will have femtocell service. verizon and at&t have already announced their plans at the beginning of this year stating that they would deploy them later this year.
p.s: pende_tim - its funny that you verizon tower has not yet gone up. i live in the boondocks and verizon is committed to covering the entire area with 7 new tower. the town i live in they just put the tower up. it will be live in 1 month. but its not going to help me any because im stuck with the deathstar (aka at&t). they wont be on the tower until december. i know the attorney who works for verizon wireless and he's going to get me out of at&t and into verizon though. idk when. | |
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avd706
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join:2003-02-06
Great Neck, NY | will it work with an EVDO router? I wonder if this will count towards the 5GB cap. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: will it work with an EVDO router? Poking around on the website it says that data will be similar to "Sprint Vision", which I think is just Sprint's brand for 1xRTT rather than EV-DO... (Why they need to use silly brand names I don't know- Verizon does the same thing, and uses completely different names) So you get "blazing fast" 144 kbit/s, have fun even trying to get anywhere near 5GB on that... | |
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| | mogulman
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join:2002-09-09
Parker, CO | Re: will it work with an EVDO router? The Airave uses your Broadband to convert Cell to VoIP over your broadband ISP.
What would be the point of using EVDO? EVDO, over Cable Modem? That seems stupid. | |
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i r teh smarts
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
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| Re: will it work with an EVDO router? I think he means use the EVDO router to get better cell reception in the home. Some people have direct-connect antennas/amplifiers so their EVDO router gets a good connection, though their signal strength in the home is very poor. I see no reason it wouldn't work with the EVDO router, but the only data signal the Airave transmits is 1xRTT. | |
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avd706
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Great Neck, NY | Re: will it work with an EVDO router? Cmoore: correct
My home uses Sprint EVDO for all our Data needs via a WRT54G3G-ST router. Although I'm not sure of the economics of this, I wonder if it would work and if it would go against my cap. | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: will it work with an EVDO router? If you're getting enough speed to support the VoIP, it should work, though there may be a slightly larger lag. And most likely it'll go against the cap, I doubt Sprint's going to put in the devices they need to see which data is going where. | |
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CMoore2004
i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI
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| I'll be getting one I'll be getting one for my dad's place. No cell reception there. For the $15/month, I might just get another phone to replace their Vonage.
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tenpin784
I Went To The Dark Side?
join:2001-03-30
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| I would think Something like this would be free, since you are expanding their footprint (it may be small, but if you are in an isolated neighborhood, it would work), while using your own broadband connection.
For me, sprint service sucks at my house, but if I were to use this, my neighbors should be able to use it too. They are less then 2,000 ft from me for sure.
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pende_tim
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Andover, NJ | Re: I would think It is rated at 5,000 square feet of coverage, that is a radius of only 40 feet, not very large. It will not reach the neighbor 2000 feet away. | |
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tenpin784
I Went To The Dark Side?
join:2001-03-30
New Durham, NH
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| Edit: Imma not so smart...i read 400, not 40, haha!
a 40ft radius (80ft diameter) circle is not a very large range.
Thats pretty bad. | |
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Castle Rock, CO | You can ask Sprint to restrict the Airave to only certain handsets so your neighbors can't use it. BTW, it doesn't have a range of 2,000 feet. The citation said 5,000 sq feet, not 5,000 foot radius. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Think international travel. If you can take this thing globally with you, you would be able to use your American cellphone in your hotel room. | |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| Is this thing even necessary? Most people go to work in the morning, and have phones at work… why use a cell phone?
Most people get home between 6 and 7pm from work… Sprint Free Minutes kick in at 7pm.
Sprint to Sprint is free all the time
Tell me again, why I need this...cuz I really don't see the justification for me to pay an extra 15 dollars a month to make calls from my house, where my calls are already free.
I've been with Sprint 11 years, and before that 3 with Bell Atlantic (Verizon), even after using cell phones for so long, I still like the "feel" of a regular handset phone.
When I'm home, I don't answer any of my 2 cell phones... want to talk to me... call the house. | |
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matt314159
join:2006-01-18
Hesperia, CA
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| Can you use this w/o paying for unlimted minues? I wonder if this has to have a $15 plan attached to it for it to work? For $15 you get unlimited minutes using it.
What if i just want to be able to use the phone at my house w/o any dropped calls, but still keep my same 500 minute bucket that it draws from?
in the FAQ's it said that other people with sprint can use this but that they need the unlimited minutes in order to take advantage of that.
I'd like to buy one just to enhance the reception at my house, but w/o paying for unlimited minutes. As it is I never go over my 500 minutes. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| It figures. If you make a call while connected to the local airwave service you can roam during the call to a network tower if you move out of range. But if you come back within range you have to end the call and restart it to get back on the local airwave. This seems risky, if for some reason you go out of range without realizing, you will use up your plan minutes without knowing it. Even if you sit back down right next to the device. I wouldn't doubt that there is going to be a lot of problems with this "feature". If it can roam seamlessly one way, there is no reason at all why it can't roam the other way. | |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ | Class Action lawsuits Are there any pending lawsuits against Sprint?
I’d surprised if there isn’t a pending a class action lawsuit against Sprint out there… One to make them bleed some cash (where it hurts), and to force them to clean up their act. | |
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slckusr
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
·AT&T Midwest
·AT&T Yahoo
| cool 15$ a month for full service in my house, is worth it! for me anyway, although i do work till 530 everyday, have a home phone and my nights start at 7 so maybe not so much :P.
But i would consider it just to have full bars in my house. that alone is worth 15 bucks. | |
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join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk
| Re: cool I might consider getting one if I didn't have to get an add on plan. I get weak signal in my house. This looks like it would solve that problem. But don't want to add to my bill just burn my minutes would be fine. Including the mobile to mobile calls being free.
Hell why wouldn't they allow this. If they don't make any money off the hardware they get to save money because they are not using Sprints cell towers to handle the call they dump it off to the internet. | |
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shutrbug
join:2000-10-18
San Jose, CA | Re: cool Where did you read that? It would be great if it's true. | |
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J3ff
join:2007-09-10
Norwalk, CT
| I love this thing I have one and it rocks!
I use it at work where NO cell phone company works (not even verizon).
I installed it 2 weeks ago and all the people in the area of my desk were exclaiming "WOW MY CELL PHONE WORKS!" (verizon and sprint people)
After talking to some level 3 tech for the airave the only reason it uses GPS is to SYNC the time to the home base (the airave opens a vpn to some server) in order to make sure to bill the time correctly... | |
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Troy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13
Enumclaw, WA
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| Re: I love this thing said by J3ff :I have one and it rocks! I use it at work where NO cell phone company works (not even verizon). I installed it 2 weeks ago and all the people in the area of my desk were exclaiming "WOW MY CELL PHONE WORKS!" (verizon and sprint people) Yep, thats why we want one too. A lot of us live where there is NO cell phone coverage. This unit is supposed to allow Verizon to roam on it too.
No monthly fee is needed by Sprint users, unless they want unlimited minutes.
This will be a popular device, aslong as they can keep the system up and running. | |
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spamd
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join:2001-04-22
Rockford, IL
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| said by J3ff :I have one and it rocks! I use it at work where NO cell phone company works (not even verizon). I installed it 2 weeks ago and all the people in the area of my desk were exclaiming "WOW MY CELL PHONE WORKS!" (verizon and sprint people) After talking to some level 3 tech for the airave the only reason it uses GPS is to SYNC the time to the home base (the airave opens a vpn to some server) in order to make sure to bill the time correctly... So enlighten me on how this device can get a GPS signal in side a building or house.. Oh wait,, they require you to place it near a window just like a plant right. Your statement about requiring GPS to sync for time is complete BS. Since the device is connected to a broadband connection it wouldn't take too much brain effort to get the femtocell to talk to an NTP server in the interweb.
Read up on what an NTP server is.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
»support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome
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join:2007-09-10
Norwalk, CT
| Re: I love this thing Complete BS ? No my friend it's not.
It ensures that the time of your airave and the time of the "airave server" (if you will) is absolutely in sync. It also is used to make sure Sprint has a license to broadcast in that particular area.
Also - they include a gps antenna that can run like 50 ish feet.
Lastly, the antenna they give you looks like a simplified sat. radio antenna, so if you want it really far from a window, just buy one of those sat radio antennas with like 200 feet of cord on them and you'll be all set. | |
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spamd
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| Re: I love this thing Yes it has gps.
»www.sprintenterprise.com/airave/···uide.pdf
But I still think its a bad idea. What if I want this in my basement or I live in an area with a limited view of the sky. IMO this gps requirement is a deal killer for some. I really could use this but unfortunately the places I need it would require more than a 200ft antenna plus the additional installation costs.
If Sprint really needs this just for time sync and E911 is complete bs. All VoIP ata adapters do not require this for E911. All you simply need is an NTP server and supply Sprint with the physical address of where the device is installed. Just like the way current VoIP providers do with existing hardware.
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bluedragon
join:2000-05-09
Hutchinson, KS
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July 2nd, @09:32PM
| Femtocells At first glance, this seems like a good idea. However, isn't this just a way for the carriers to not pay for new towers? This seems like a good deal for them. They have the customer pay for the router and the broadband link. On top of that, they charge for you to do it on top of your regular charges. I would rather get a carrier that has a good signal where I need it rather than pay extra to use this.
I know there are areas where no carrier works, and this would work well for those areas. | |
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| quite frankly i'm all for having a stronger signal inside my house. dropped calls, especially when your with some sort of customer service for half hour. can really piss a guy off. i don't have the old cash cow landline service anymore, but i still have a landline. only it's voip. and it ONLY COST 20 BUCKS A YEAR. sure, i have to use a landline phone. but what's the difference between a cordless phone that doesn't shut out and a cell phone that constantly drops calls. i'll spend 20 bucks a year over buying equipment from any cell carrier and paying a monthly fee. it's called magicjack, folks. has all the features of the old style landline, it has all the features of the cell phone. except internet type functions. can anyone beat that kind of price and service???? | |
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BuzzDar
join:2006-01-28
West Frankfort, IL
·magicjack.com
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·Packet8
| Why do i need this? Why do i need this when i can get a magic jack from magicjack.com and use it with a grandcentral phone number it works over the internet just the same as this new sprint item. I can start a call on my magicjack and the press a button on my phone and it transfers my call to my cell phone when i am leaving the house. and all of this for just 19.95 a year not a month. all my calls in my house are now free with the MJ and even with sprint once you leave the house your on your monthly phone minutes. so again why would i want this if im going to be at home to use this. when i can get UNLIMITED calling to the usa and canada from home for just 19.95 a year. | |
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shutrbug
join:2000-10-18
San Jose, CA
| Re: Why do i need this? With Magicjack, don't you need to have a Windows PC running all the time to use it? A 60W PC running 24x7 at $0.11/KWhr costs about $5 per month to run. Many PCs consume a lot more power than that at idle. This Airave unit should consume a lot less less power.
Magicjack would make sense for me if it would run on my Windows Home Server, but it isn't officially supported. And, no matter how hard I try, I can't get people trained to call my GrandCentral number. | |
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Sprint Launching Airave Service July 15
