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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: AT&T & Verizon probably do the same thing or will Verizon Wireless has been doing this for years. They mux the Verizon wireless traffic onto the Verizon backbone.
Funny thing is that this is how Verizon makes a lot of their profit, they double dip. VW is a holding of V so they bill for the network capacity then they take a chunk of the profit as well. Pretty good gig.
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
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| Re: AT&T & Verizon probably do the same thing or will said by BosstonesOwn  :Verizon Wireless has been doing this for years. They mux the Verizon wireless traffic onto the Verizon backbone. Funny thing is that this is how Verizon makes a lot of their profit, they double dip. VW is a holding of V so they bill for the network capacity then they take a chunk of the profit as well. Pretty good gig. That's not what they are talking about. ALL telco's "mux" their different levels of communications. Sprint has iDen MSO's jumping on MAN fiber to a LD site, which lets the T1's trickle down to whatever backbone that's needed. What VZ/VZW isn't doing (or saying) is offloading traffic from legacy switches, like a Nortel DMS and/or Lucent platform and putting it all on a single platform (ip based) so it all forms one cloud.. not many. It's nice to have 1 cabinet (mux's, echo cans, WBDac's and BBDacs) that has everything one needs instead of a plant scattered all over the building.  | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: AT&T & Verizon probably do the same thing or will Ahh I didn't get what they meant.
Have to stamp the burnt out logo on my head for it. | |
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Noah Vail
Serial Thread Killer
Premium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
 ·Verizon BroadbandA..
 ·VoicePulse
| Good Luck with That. We have some networks being Time Divided (iDEN) and others being Frequency Divided (WiMax). CDMA runs 900/1.8GHz and iDEN is 806-824MHz/851MHz-869while WiMax is 2.3/5.8GHz. Cellular will reliably go 10-18mi. WiMax will reliably go either 30mi or 100yards according to either Intel or deployment engineers.
So, what what antenna to we put on the tower to handle all that, and at what angle do we point it? How do we backhaul via Satellite if we want WiMax's 70Mbs or via fiberoptic if it's Skink Pee, Wyoming we want to serve?
Deploying WiMax in 2008 is a pipe dream. This idea is a Full-on, 5 senses VR Fantasy.
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MattE
Obama '08
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | Re: Good Luck with That. This is about a single BACKHAUL for all their networks, rather than 3 different backhaul networks.
It's not about using the same antennas for all the different frequencies. Which is why the article mentions the core network. | |
| Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
·AT&T Southeast
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March 24th, @11:36AM
| Too late It's too late for Sprint to right the ship at this point. I predict that Sprint will be gobbled up by a private equity firm this year. In the not too distant future I see a combination with Alltel as very likely. Nextel will be spun off and possibly combined with Southern Linc. | |
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Who's paying for this "new & improved" network? I paid part of the cost with MY job. The cuts they made were TERRIBLE. I was an award winning territory rep for the company. The awarded me as "the best of the best" and then let me go less than a year later. They kept the slackers in place....
Typical. | |
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ureihcim
Freshly made
join:2007-12-16
Miami, FL
| Core Network Unified saves the company millions and not only benefits it's developers and customers, this basically makes the Sprint network a giant WAN.
This is the same on how Speakeasy has their network ran. Traffic will not leave the network until it's furthest point, and from there it exits out and goes to the desired location on the net. This means they can provide a certain level of QOS and reliability but also stability.
What they need to worry about more though is their last mile which is their wireless network. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
| The hard part is the back end infrastructure ties... CDMA 1x/EVDO uses ANSI core
iDEN uses Motorola technology, which uses components of GSM (SIM, GSM signalling)
Xohm uses ?? IEEE spec'd air interface, but who knows what for back end roaming, billing, etc.
CDMA to iDEN _shouldn't_ be that difficult to bridge, someone just has to create a gateway that allows the 2 cores to 'speak' to each other. At onetime there were 'GAIT' devices that were more of a hack job that worked by having 2 phones in one  it allowed for both SIM cards and GSM and also had TDMA/AMPS phones with ESN. Handoffs didn't work, as both infrastructure and devices ran as separate infrastructures.
In the not too distant future, this will have to change, as there will be different devices running on different cores and many should be able to 'speak' to each other.
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iLive4Apple
Hybrid power
Premium
join:2006-07-13
Hoover, AL | Re: The hard part is the back end infrastructure ties... Sprint has already "halfway" bridged them, they have the Powersource Hybrid phones which are CDMA voice and iDEN for Direct Connect. Would they deploy it at the network level or tower lever? | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
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March 25th, @01:19AM
| Re: The hard part is the back end infrastructure ties... I suspect that they could actually just have both running at the same time, as traditional voice and data are on CDMA only, and PTT are on iDEN only.
If this allowed for PTT to handoff between iDEN PTT and QCHAT as well as standard voice and data to handoff between iDEN and CDMA 1x/EVDO, then I'd say they have it partially done.
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·EarthLink
| Sptint- Consolidation As the proud(tongue in cheek) owner of a Sprint "stick phone" a simple RL4930, I'm wondering what all this consolidation means for me. If the dump CDMA that means my phone and the phones of my family (five) will be junk and we then have to either dump Sprint or buy the "New and Improved" model. Lets see-a "phone" that is a piss-poor MP3 player, a useless camera, has a keyboard so tiny it takes a stylus to enter anything on it, a tinny receiver and an ourageously expensive Bluetooth enabled headset. With all these rancid product features/capabilities you have to pay additional fees. Guess the days of a well functioning cell phone are over and its a repeat of the crap we got when transistor radios came out. It must be the new model for America, make your product miserably crappy and hire a good PR firm to cover up and make you think you "gotta have one" | |
| | DarnellP
join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV | Re: Sptint- Consolidation Don't worry, Jimbo, Sprint isn't dumping CDMA anytime soon. | |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·EarthLink
| Re: Sptint- Consolidation Whew- Sprints been trying to get me to "upgrade" to with a 2 year contract more money for less minutes plus all the additional baggage and charges for stuff I'll never use. Their Blackberry phones are a total rip-off (to me) as are the rest of their lineup except for a ruggedized one that is "spot-on" what I would consider. Cell Phones are definitely marketed towards those who are a bit younger than I. I'm not dead but why spend money on pictures that Are poor in color and are not readily available, texting with shortcuts LMAO LOL etc. Music that is poor to barely fair. I've lost 50% of my hearing so I really don't want music over a phone! Give me a phone that has clear reception, doesn't drop calls or sound like a tin can with string and tough enough to use every day.oh and can utilize a bluetooth headset and do voice dialing to comply with California hands-free cell phone laws coming up! | |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·EarthLink
| As the proud(tongue in cheek) owner of a Sprint "stick phone" a simple RL4930, I'm wondering what all this consolidation means fo rme. If the dump CDMA that means my phone and the phones of my family (five) will be junk and we then have to either dump Sprint or buy the "New and Improved" model. Lets see-a "phonre" that is a pisspoor MP3 player, a useless camera, has a keyboard so tiny it takes a stylus to enter anything on it, a tinny receiver and an ourageous ly expensive Bluetooth enabled headset. With all these rancid product features/capabilities you have to pay additional fees. Guess the days of a well functioning cell phone are over and its a repeat of the crap we got when transistor radios came out. It must be the new model for America, make your product miserably crappy and hire a good PR firm to cover up and make you think tou "gotta have one" | |
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mixmasta
join:2002-03-19
Ann Arbor, MI
| It says in the 2nd paragraph what they are doing.
"A common optical backbone, IP network, cell-site infrastructure, and IMS (Internet Protocol Multimedia Subsystem) will serve all of the carrier's networks, said Ben Vos, vice president of core technologies at Sprint, in a speech at the VON.x conference Tuesday in San Jose, Calif. The carrier will also give third-party software developers and content owners access to that infrastructure through common APIs." | |
| | remu0006
join:2008-03-24
Henderson, NV | Re: Did anyone read the article I don't know if this is the right post but talking about network did you see the adds for unlimted plan for Sprint for $99. I hate sprint but I am hoping Verizon will have a sweet plan like that. | |
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Sprint Looking At Unified Core Network
AT&T & Verizon probably do the same thing or will
Who's paying for this "new & improved" network?
