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Reminds me of how Walmart suggested if it placed hydrogen fueling stations at all of its locations one could drive almost anywhere in the country on hydrogen. | |
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Walmart alone might drive a WiMAX-based RFID reader industry.
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New York, NY | Re: Very Clever said by xenophon:The next target for Clearware should be making deals with highrise apt/condo buildings. Those agreements have already been in place for over a decade in almost every major city (and even small towns). At least 1/6th of all buildings in NYC have mini cell towers on them now, and that is fairly standard across the country as well. In fact, I have even seen them on grain silos in the middle of nowhere.
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kudos:2 | Not sure how Karl thinks this bypasses local zoning and building codes or the permitting process. Despite their delusions of grandeur, Wal*Mart is not a sovereign governmental entity (like Disney is in Florida) nor do they have the right to put anything on their buildings that was not in the original building permit.
This is mainly a way to use space in commercially-zoned areas without reducing parking and without having to put up another monopole for the antennas. It's done every day for many different radio services, and this is just one of them.
If you really want to deploy your network in a hurry, put them on Walgreens, CVS, Starbucks and McDonalds stores...you can't go 10 blocks without tripping over one of those. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Very Clever Considering that most Wal*Marts are single story commercial buildings with roof heights of less than 35 feet, there will have to be some kind of rooftop support far beyond the roofline. Try putting a 60 foot high antenna on a 30 foot roof and report back what happens. | |
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kudos:1 | said by 56403739:If you really want to deploy your network in a hurry, put them on Walgreens, CVS, Starbucks and McDonalds stores...you can't go 10 blocks without tripping over one of those. That won't work. No coverage at home in your cul-de-sac subdivision. Zoning code remember. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Very Clever Wal*Marts are any closer? | |
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For many municipalities, they will not allow a guyed tower or mast - it has to be self-supporting. This includes within the city limits and the extra-territorial-jurisdiction (ETJ). Usually there is a 200 foot height limit. Sometimes (depending how the property is zoned), some visual impact reduction is required. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Very Clever Maybe 200 feet without a permit is normal for Dallas, but everywhere else you'll find yourself on the receiving end of a red tag in short order. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Very Clever You can put up a ~200-footer without a special use permit? Really? | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Very Clever In all the cities I've worked with, there is an absolute restriction over 200 feet, but you still need a permit for most anything else.
No restrictions placing anything on buildings, but considering the foot print of a building property lines, you can't go very high with a guyed tower. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Very Clever No wonder Texas is such a mess. You'd never get that up anywhere else. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: yes support the communist take over now They don't. They're more likely built by our NAFTA neighbors. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: yes support the communist take over now I think ZTE was used in Xohm markets actually. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: This is going to be LEGENDARY! said by LineNoise:Woo Hoo! Now instead of waiting for people to write out their checks I can now wait in line while their Young and the Restless episode. While their Young and the Restless episode what? | |
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Chicago, IL | All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart Fuck! How many WalMarts are there? Because if we have enough stores that we can build a full-fledged wireless network by placing towers on top of them, we have bigger troubles.
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kudos:2 | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart They had better have some decent range. The Wal-Mart in my town is on the other side of town, about 5 miles from me :/ | |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by kapil:Because if we have enough stores that we can build a full-fledged wireless network by placing towers on top of them, we have bigger troubles. Why? Maybe people enjoy not paying full prices for the things they buy.
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Chicago, IL | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart said by pnh102:Why? Maybe people enjoy not paying full prices for the things they buy. Oh we most certainly pay full price. Sometimes even more than that, by the time you figure the environmental cost of cheap chinese crap, human rights violations, forced and child labor, poverty wages earned by store workers etc. etc.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart said by kapil:Oh we most certainly pay full price. Sometimes even more than that, by the time you figure the environmental cost of cheap chinese crap, human rights violations, forced and child labor, poverty wages earned by store workers etc. etc. And this is different from what other stores?
Walmart and most other retailers use the same exact suppliers, but it seems "OK" to buy from Costco, Target, Kohls, Home Depot, Lowes simply because they are not Walmart. Should I presume you don't shop at any of these other places either?
As for wages, if Walmart doesn't pay a prevailing wage for a given area it won't get the employees it needs. Why would someone work at a Walmart for $2 an hour if they can work at a local grocery store for $8 an hour?
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| | | | | | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart Because Walmart drove the local grocery store out of business? 8-) | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart said by jjeffeory:Because Walmart drove the local grocery store out of business? 8-) Sure it did. There are plenty of Walmarts which coexist with grocery stores.
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Also have you never seen documentary on the truth behind WalMart, WalMart - High Cost Low Prices? The full video is on Google Video or Youtube, watch it. Not only did I not shop there before but I was able to covert several others from never shopping from there again. Then a few of them did the same to a couple of their friends. Sure its not a lot but every little bit I can do to screw WalMart over makes be sleep better at night. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart said by AlfredNewman :
I have never ever ever seen any other store calculate the cost of a lawsuit compared to the money they save hiring illegal immigrants. You need to look harder then. It is a common business practice to compare the cost of paying a fine versus obeying the law. Even if Walmart is guilty of this they certainly are not the only business that does it. Besides, isn't it the government's job to enforce laws against hiring illegals? Why isn't anyone complaining about that?
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I've also not seen any other store get in trouble for carrying toys with lead. I've not seen any other store screw people customers/employees over as much as WalMart. And this too is certainly not exclusive to Walmart. If you shop there as often as I do, you'll also notice that when it comes to safety recalls they are way ahead of the curve when it comes to removing recalled items from their shelves.
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Also have you never seen documentary on the truth behind WalMart, WalMart - High Cost Low Prices? Nope. But if I am having comedy night at home I might watch it, along with "An Inconvenient Truth."
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The discussion was Sprint putting towers on Wal-Mart stores, for better reception . .
and you people start ragging wal*mart . .
said by pnh102:said by kapil:Oh we most certainly pay full price. Sometimes even more than that, by the time you figure the environmental cost of cheap chinese crap, human rights violations, forced and child labor, poverty wages earned by store workers etc. etc. And this is different from what other stores? Walmart and most other retailers use the same exact suppliers, but it seems "OK" to buy from Costco, Target, Kohls, Home Depot, Lowes simply because they are not Walmart. Should I presume you don't shop at any of these other places either? As for wages, if Walmart doesn't pay a prevailing wage for a given area it won't get the employees it needs. Why would someone work at a Walmart for $2 an hour if they can work at a local grocery store for $8 an hour? | |
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kudos:4 | said by kapil:said by pnh102:Why? Maybe people enjoy not paying full prices for the things they buy. the environmental cost of cheap chinese crap, human rights violations, forced and child labor, And why should I care about what China does to their own people?
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| | | haven't you looked at all the stuff in your house lately with the "made in china label"
now goto walmart and try and find anything NOT MADE IN CHINA
seriously if your even half green they are totally evil
if your a job protectionist they are evil
if your human rights person they are evil
if your unionist they are evil
if your a local competitor they are evil
if your a business start up they are evil
hrm what do they do for you and prove ot me where the towers are made like the nuts and bolts and parts
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kudos:1 | Re: All Your Base Are Belong To WalMart said by chronoss2009:haven't you looked at all the stuff in your house lately with the "made in china label" now goto walmart and try and find anything NOT MADE IN CHINA I found a plastic tub at walmart that was made in the USA and boots made in Canada. | |
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They insist that stocking shelves and handing out smiley stickers is something that can only be done properly by dues-paying members of the Local Brotherhood of Patronage, and would rather have 20% unemployement than let local residents earn $8-10 to start and save money on household products (subject, of course, to the highest sales tax in the country).
Sure is a shame, especially in the "food deserts" of Chicago where people have to take public transportation many miles to buy groceries -- all the nearby grocery stores closed up but Wal-mart was willing to open stores and invest in community development.
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San Francisco, CA | Re: Almost I don't want to get too off topic, but they are probably better for it. Walmart has done a tremendous amount of damage to quality of life for most Americans. In most situations, the better good would be served by waiting out unemployment for a *real* job that doesn't set back the employee into an endless spiral of lower-and-lower-cost living. Walmart has done for retail what illegal immigrants have done to the construction industry. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: does anyone know when new york city will be ready? said by vlad1000:i think new york has tons of walmarts...:( hopefully enough for them to deploy wimax all over the 5 boroughs soon enough:( NYC has ZERO walmarts. But there is one 20 feet away from the border of NYC in Valley Stream Long Island | |
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If its for phone calls, I don't get why Sprint would use Wal Mart stores..half of them are in downtown areas where the signal is already good.
Lastly..I have never seen any Wal Mart stores with a tower on top of it.. that is what Sprint is wanting to do right? Place a huge tower on top of Wal Mart?
Edit: According to Wiki WiMax is an alternative to DSL or cable internet.
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So Sprint is trying to get into the internet ISP business now? LoL They can't even keep their phone customers.
Will this WiMax be used for their phone customers to?
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So Sprint is trying to get into the internet ISP business now? LoL They can't even keep their phone customers.
Will this WiMax be used for their phone customers to?
Sprint's been in the ISP business for a looonngg time. Like other cell phone companies, it's ISP business is *wireless* internet initially aimed at consumers with laptops - by means of aircards and USB modems.
With the growth of "smart phones," Sprint (like other cell phone carriers) has brought its wireless ISP business to the phone side.
For those WITHOUT access to DSL or cable internet, Sprint's wireless ISP is an alternative to satellite internet.
WiMax is a "next generation" evolution in Sprint's wireless ISP business. It promises greater speeds than current generation of wireless interent (aka as "3G"). That's to both stand alone devices (aircards, USB modems) and cell phones. | |
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Ugh. Drop dead Sprint. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Censorship? said by bngdup:Wal Mart as a company tends to cave to the more sensitive "Family" oriented individuals in the population. How long until they start complaining that the "children" can access porn through their local Wal Mart tower? I'm not trying to sound tin-foil hat, just saying that its something to watch out for None of the people that would complain about porn would know what the white shoeboxes on the roof do. | |
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Driving around Vegas last week, I noticed a lot of cell towers sited inside Public Storage facilities... like 5-6 in one 2-mile stretch. Again, it makes sense... nobody in the buildings to complain... gated property... 24x7 surveillance... just like Wal-Mart.
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* A target customer set for WiMax is mobile people, Walmart is known for it's parking lot RV culture (mobile users)
* Clear/Sprint could get towers with easy mounting (presumably to the roof structure) and little immediate interference from trees since the roof size and parking lot would block out most old-growth tall trees. | |
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