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Sprint Officially Launches LTE in Another 22 Markets
Or, More Accurately, Parts of 22 New Markets
by Karl Bode 04:28PM Monday Jun 17 2013
Moropo See Profile writes in to direct our attention to the fact that Sprint has announced that they've launched LTE service in another twenty two new markets, including Miami, New Orleans, Raleigh, North Carolina, and Tampa, Florida. As always the usual Sprint launch caveats apply: many users had seen signal in these locations for some time as Sprint brings signals online for testing well before a commercial launch. Said launches aren't always what you'd call comprehensive either; only around 40% of towers have been LTE approved in the Miami launch market. The launches bring Sprint's LTE market total to 110. The company aims to offer LTE to 200 million people by the end of this year.

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GeekJedi
RF is Good For You
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join:2001-06-21
Mukwonago, WI

Seriously?

That's great. Fond du Lac, Marshfield, Watertown, and Ft. Atkinson WI. Yet Milwaukee still has nothing.

Way to go.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon Online DSL

Re: Seriously?

Funny how bigger cities are slower to permit LTE installations, whereas the smaller ones (which have fewer towers to deal with anyway) sign off on things quickly to get the ball rolling, partially because they might not have LTE from two other providers to start with.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
Looks like some near MKE are reporting it. Just getting started...
»sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprin···10sprint

Tmob shows zero.

sprint user

@cableone.net
If what everyone is worried about is speed learn to turn on wi-fi. I pick up free wi-fi from fast food restaurants, coffee shop's and even most malls and department stores. Also when at home with low signal call and ask about sprints femto cell connect to your high speed internet and you are good to go.

Tommyboy

@comcast.net

Re: Seriously?

said by sprint user :

If what everyone is worried about is speed learn to turn on wi-fi. I pick up free wi-fi from fast food restaurants, coffee shop's and even most malls and department stores. Also when at home with low signal call and ask about sprints femto cell connect to your high speed internet and you are good to go.

The Airrave comes from the factory with a .75mb upload cap as default. They have you install it ahead of your router...
You have to log into it web interface and uncheck QOS protocols. Sprint or the manual made no mention of this.
I've had 2 Airrave femtocells kill themselves now. Both were hooked up to my racks voltage regulater and battery backup. When it works, it does a decent job. But its still a crap shoot.

Sprint said 4g wimax was available in detroit back when i signed up 1.7 years ago. It turns out they only had 1 tower in the whole city equipped to this day. I have no faith in a large city wide roll out of LTE. Its all PR and lies.

I have an S2 from sprint in the metro detroit area.
download rate off of the speed test app averages about 8kb. Thats driving from north of the city, all the way past down river along I94 and I75.

It timeouts when passing through downtown Detroit. Worst decision ever to go to sprint 1.7 years ago. 3 more months and I am back at VZW. My wallet will be raped every month, but at least I will have service. (my work iphone4s on vzw does great around metro Detroit)

Cheers

jeffm4688

@optonline.net

great

I honestly don't understand where sprint gets their plans from. I live in a suburb of NYC and have LTE coverage from every other major carrier (T-mo actual LTE, at&t LTE and verizon LTE) hell I even have metroPCS lte. But no sprint LTE, just 3G which can't even load web pages.

Guess it's time to dump sprint, not only due to coverage but lack of phones (BB Q10)
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Re: great

Blackberry... LOL

KevNYC
Premium
join:2002-03-31
Seattle, WA

Right....

Funny, I was down in Miami Beach a few weeks ago and data was unusable. Talk about annoying, I had run back to my hotel whenever I needed to look anything up. Thanks Sprint!

Ericthorn
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Paragould, AR
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·Paragould.net

Not so impressed with their LTE

I live in a very small market and LTE just recently got turned on here. Best I've seen is 8/1, and more often less. And forget getting LTE indoors. While better than 3g, I certainly expected more when I see some of my friends' AT&T LTE speeds. Regardless, as long as i'm unlimited and paying much less than I would with AT&T or Verizon, I'll stick with them.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Not so impressed with their LTE

Yeah, what app needs more than a few Mbps. Latency matters more after that. I'll take a few Mbps unlimited over 100Mbps that has a 5GB limit. Often see 12, up to 25 or so. I use 6-10GB/month so ATT/VZW are out.
josephf

join:2009-04-26

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T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

T-Mobile's 3G (HSPA+) is faster than Sprint's 4G LTE in the real-world.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

Sprint can do over 25Mbps, not that any app needs that...

»dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3812···june.png

What Tmob has is better HSPA coverage at the moment, until Sprint starts 800Mhz LTE.
josephf

join:2009-04-26
Reviews:
·VoicePulse

Re: T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

25Mbps is a rare occurrence on Sprint, even though it can happen. Most places you will not get anywhere remotely close to that speed with Sprint.

With T-Mobile 3G HSPA+ you can routinely get significantly faster speeds than Sprint in the real world.
Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1

Re: T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

said by josephf:

25Mbps is a rare occurrence on Sprint, even though it can happen. Most places you will not get anywhere remotely close to that speed with Sprint.

With T-Mobile 3G HSPA+ you can routinely get significantly faster speeds than Sprint in the real world.

Yes, if you're in one of the areas that Tmobile covers with HSPA. Otherwise, you're on EDGE.

Credit where credit is due, Sprint is upgrading all (well, 99 percent) of their towers with LTE, and they're refarming their old 800 IDEN frequency as well. I think the initial use for 800 will be 1x, but eventually it will be used for LTE once the handsets become available.

Up in the bay area, I have gotten 25/8 with -106 while driving down the freeway, too.
josephf

join:2009-04-26

Re: T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

If you want to talk about the future rather than the present, T-Mobile's LTE is faster than Sprint's LTE in the real world.
Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1

Re: T-Mobile 3G Faster Than Sprint 4G LTE

said by josephf:

If you want to talk about the future rather than the present, T-Mobile's LTE is faster than Sprint's LTE in the real world.

And if you want to talk about the present, if you're not on Tmobile HSPA right now, you'll probably never get LTE.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
said by josephf:

25Mbps is a rare occurrence on Sprint, even though it can happen. Most places you will not get anywhere remotely close to that speed with Sprint.

With T-Mobile 3G HSPA+ you can routinely get significantly faster speeds than Sprint in the real world.

And 25Mbps is not common for all LTE carriers. Sprint hasn't finished LTE rollout so can't be judged yet, HSPA+ has been out for a while. Tmob has no 800mhz for future (yet), Sprint does. But apps and light tethering don't need more than a few Mbps anyway. Sprint is unlimited, Tmob throttles after a couple GB.

skeechan
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I am seeing it popping up in Orange County, CA

Parts of far west Huntington Beach, Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo, Irvine, Anaheim have LTE now. It is about time. I have typically been seeing 8-15Mb/5-6Mb indoors which is faster than AT&T LTE is here.
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88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

to offer LTE to 200 million people by the end of this year

and then completely ignore the other 115 million Americans like they do now even for basic phone service.

SysOp

join:2001-04-18
Douglasville, GA

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flip a switch ?

Can they just flip a switch in July and go 800mhz LTE?

If not why not just wait till iden is shut down jan 30th to deploy?

Sprint needs cdma and lte on 800mhz asap.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: flip a switch ?

iDen will be shut down end of this month. Some sources say 800Mhz voice/1x will be turned on starting in July but not all at once, which most recent phones can receive. Is not clear if 800 LTE will be turned on at same time or soon after when 800Mhz LTE phones are released sometime this year.
Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1

Re: flip a switch ?

said by xenophon:

iDen will be shut down end of this month. Some sources say 800Mhz voice/1x will be turned on starting in July but not all at once, which most recent phones can receive. Is not clear if 800 LTE will be turned on at same time or soon after when 800Mhz LTE phones are released sometime this year.

800mhz 1x is already broadcasting from some NV towers, but that is going to become the norm once iden is completely shut down.

800 LTE is a different animal, of course. I'm not sure if there will need to be additional equipment installed for that or not. New handsets, of course.
supertbone

join:2002-04-04
Pleasant Grove, UT

I was finally was able to use LTE

I got an LTE phone a few months back and the other day I traveled to LA and got my first taste of Sprint LTE. Usually it was 5-8 meg down, but once I got over 22 meg down in Lancaster. That is faster than my home connection. Hopefully they will light up LTE in Salt Lake soon. 3G speeds have improved a little recently when they turned on eHRPD. LTE, hopefully will follow.

88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

Re: I was finally was able to use LTE

Your speeds are going to be heavily determined by how many others on the same tower sector as you are using 4G. As more people get 4G device and Sprint continues to offer unlimited data let just say enjoy those 5-8 Mbps speeds because those will seem blazing compared to what's to come.
criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
Okay, riddle me this, racing fans. Currently I'm in midtown Manhattan, and I receive Sprint LTE. The signal strength is perfectly decent, 60% on my Tri-Fi, which is four out of six bars. In addition, the upload speed is actually ABOVE the maximum spec of 3mbps, running around 7 mbps. But the download speed? Miserable!! Take a look:




WTF???!!!

Meanwhile I'm picking up the WiMax perfectly fine with the Tri-Fi, with speeds smack dab in the middle of Sprint's average claimed specs for the service:




WiMax with faster download than LTE?? What's going on???

What makes this even weirder is that LTE does not have a large user load in NYC, so that is almost certainly NOT the explanation. But then what is??

So, at the moment, I'm using WiMax for most of my surfing and stream-playing, but whenever I have to upload something really large to my cloud I'm switching to LTE. Rather awkward and annoying. Just look at the LTE spec sheet under the Speeds tab at shop2.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_lte_plan_details.html#tab_where?INTNAV=NET:MS:013113:4GLTE . Sprint indicates there that LTE download speeds should run roughly three times as fast as upload speeds. In my case, with 7mbps on my download side, that should be translating to about 21mbps download speed, which is consistent with what others are reporting in LTE areas where there is not yet a large user base. And yet I'm obviously getting nothing anywhere close to that; in fact I'm getting roughly a tenth of that; and I'm really stumped as to why.

said by supertbone:

3G speeds have improved a little recently when they turned on eHRPD.

eHRPD? What's that? When eHRPD, whatever that is, is fully implemented, will the 3G specs change? At the moment, according to Sprint's specs, 3G minimum download should be 600kbps and minimum upload should be 350kbps. Will they be rolling out new 3G specs after eHRPD?
pacmanfan
Premium
join:2003-11-22
Mansfield, MO

Re: I was finally was able to use LTE

said by criggs:

Okay, riddle me this, racing fans. Currently I'm in midtown Manhattan, and I receive Sprint LTE. The signal strength is perfectly decent, 60% on my Tri-Fi, which is four out of six bars. In addition, the upload speed is actually ABOVE the maximum spec of 3mbps, running around 7 mbps. But the download speed? Miserable!! Take a look:

I saw this happen in downtown Kansas City several months ago. LTE was running 8/2-3mbps for some of the time, and then dropped to .25-1/1-3mbps part of the time. This was with great LTE signal on a Galaxy Nexus. Wimax signal wasn't nearly as good on my Evo 4G, but I got a fairly stable 4/1mbps. The dropoffs in LTE speed seemed to be at random, and certainly didn't correlate with the number of users--I was there on a weekend during a snowstorm, and downtown was dead!
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criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY

Re: I was finally was able to use LTE

Ruh-Roh. This would seem to suggest a systemic problem in regard to which Sprint is either stumped or doesn't care; not a good sign.
criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
How about this for a possible explanation.

As previously indicated, I'm in midtown Manhattan, and my zip is 10022. If you take a look at the Sensorly Sprint 4G LTE coverage map for 10022 at »www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/S···#q=10022 , you will see that, while coverage is spotty, ranging, on a scale of 1 to 4, from 1 to 4 bars, that zip code essentially has LTE coverage now.

But if you look at the official Sprint map for the same location, at »coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?q···ge%20map , you will see that Sprint is reporting coverage in that area ONLY from 3G and WiMax!

So here's my theory, and I am not a technical expert, so I'd be curious to know whether this theory is technically possible. Is it possible that the 'LTE' service in my area is, in fact, using the WiMax service and is merely grabbing it and rerouting it through the LTE network? This might also explain the fact that, while I'm getting the standard 1.5 mbps cap on the upload side when connected to WiMax, I'm NOT getting that same cap when switching to my area's 'LTE' service. (Obviously this message is largely relevant to those who are familiar with both LTE's and WiMax's technical specs and also aware of the WiMax 1.5m upload cap; it won't make much sense to anyone else.)

In addition, this also could explain why my upload speed is faster than my download speed. WiMax uploads, since their speeds are capped, are far less crowded and thus far more stable than WiMax downloads. Because of that, my 'LTE' back-door access to the WiMax network is giving me uncapped and blazingly fast uploads even as my download speed is pretty much identical to my WiMax connection.

By way of documentation, here's what I'm currently getting on my LTE connection:




And here's what I'm currently getting on my WiMax connection:




My LTE signal strength is now 100%, six bars out of six, with a signal strength of -81 dBm and a CINR of 12. My WiMax signal strength is 80%, five bars out of six, with a signal strength of -58 dBm and a CINR of 10. Maybe that will help some of you figure out what might be going on.
beavercable
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Beaverton, OR

Been getting better in Portland and Hillsboro Oregon

4g started popping up sporadically 3 months ago and now seems to be available 60% of the areas I travel.

Disconnected

@sbcglobal.net

No hope of anything in new Milford Connecticut

With the coming of spring, and the foliage bloom, my PCS signal has gone away. I was really hoping that LTE would bring the 800 MHz foliage penetrating signal to my area. It seems that it will be a long time off though.