  gballMaster YodaPremium
join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN | hmmmm I'm really interested in seeing what this phone has to offer. Although I admit it will be hard for me to give up the freedom of the windows mobile phone I have now as far as free apps etc..
The new iphone seems promising but the lack of a keyboard is a no go for me and the thing I dislike about my HTC phone now is I can't txt with one hand which is something the pre will allow me to do. | |
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The Lou | Re: hmmmm Depending on the HTC model you're using, you can text with one hand..at least on the Pro. Just need to change the keyboard type you're using.
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| | gballMaster YodaPremium
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South Bend, IN | Re: hmmmm I have the 8525 and i mean one hand txt with the actual keyboard not the onscreen one. | |
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| | |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | Re: hmmmm Thought about the Dash? | |
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| | | | gballMaster YodaPremium
join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN | Re: hmmmm Well I would kinda be going backwards though since the screen is smaller and its only a smartphone so no touch screen 
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|  TCubPremium
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| I type faster with the iPhones virtual keyboard then some type on a real keyboard... And typing with one hand is a little slow but definitely possible. You just have to get used to using the virtual keyboard. Only took my 50 year old Dad a few hours to figure it out! | |
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: hmmmm There is one problem that a lot of people forget about the iPhone, unless you live in places like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Montana, North Dakota, etc. Try using one of those in the winter time when out and about. If you're willing to pull your gloves off in -20 degree weather JUST to answer your phone, they're worthless outside.  In other words.. try just even answering those things in the middle of winter when you have gloves on. Other than that, I do actually like my iTouch. (No iPhone yet, but have used them) | |
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| | |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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Putnam, CT
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| Re: hmmmm said by fiberguy:There is one problem that a lot of people forget about the iPhone, unless you live in places like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Montana, North Dakota, etc. Try using one of those in the winter time when out and about. If you're willing to pull your gloves off in -20 degree weather JUST to answer your phone, they're worthless outside. In other words.. try just even answering those things in the middle of winter when you have gloves on. Other than that, I do actually like my iTouch. (No iPhone yet, but have used them) That problem is solved.
»www.dotsgloves.com/
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Chicago, IL |  Go Sprint!
Pre will be awesome! It's from the people who pretty much invented the smartphone category at USRobotics/3Com/Palm/Handspring. If these people can't create the perfect smartphone, no one can - regardless of what the Apple fanboys tell you.
I just hope, and as a blackberry user - wish, that they get email right.
Email on a mobile device has been and will be the killer app - and no one but RIM can get it to work right.
Back to Sprint - their plans are unbeatable. Their customer service has improved dramatically - it's night and day. Their device line-up is respectable. And the network is the best.
If you haven't given them a chance or are a past customer who walked away due to endless troubles...take a second look at Sprint.
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| gballMaster YodaPremium
join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN | A few people here have Sprint and love them and the coverage is excellent plus theres 3g also which AT&T's 3g in my area is pretty sucky. Their plans are also cheaper than what AT&T and Verizon offer. | |
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|  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by kapil:Email on a mobile device has been and will be the killer app - and no one but RIM can get it to work right. Use a recent WinMo or iPhone. Microsoft's ActiveSync push is hands down better than the Blackberry implementation and Apple licensed it from Microsoft. Additionally, there is no per-device CAL required with non-BES devices and you're not tied to the RIM network.
And yes, I administrate both types of devices. | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
2 edits | Sprint isn't bad. I've had issues with migration from Nextel.
I do prefer the flexibility of GSM - with SIM cards and unlocked devices that Sprint and Verizon do not offer.
I currently have both a Sprint Treo 800W and and AT&T HTC Tilt. Both have their good and bad points.
As a business user, I do appreciate being able to use the internet while receiving a call (SSH session) on AT&T, while it will drop on the Treo due to EVDO not being able to support simultaneous voice + data.
Beyond that, network works well on both, although I do end up roaming more on Sprint than on AT&T.
I do have corp discounts on both devices, and it actually makes AT&T rates cheaper (28% discount).
My coworker in San Jose area has Sprint Moto Q, and has to stand by the window to use it. | |
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| ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 Reviews:
·VOIPo
| We walked from Sprint because of recurring billing nightmares. They also seem to have spottier coverage when my wife used them.
As for the Blackberry vs iPhone and mail, I get my mail from Exchnage on my iPhone faster than Outlook gets it. Sometimes with my Blackberry there was a few minute delay.
ActiveSync works like a champ.
So Blackberry is not the only company that has "got email" right. IMO Blackbery vs iPhone for email - the win would go to the iPhone.
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| CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO | Got to say I've stuck with Sprint for the last few years and while there have been a few billing hiccups along the way, it's all been sorted out in the end. Coverage has generally been great. The only drawback is that it doesn't work overseas (and considering how cheap it is to pick up a temporary mobile in most countries, that's not a big deal)
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| ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 Reviews:
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| said by kapil:Sprint has been doing a lot of things right. I hope they can manage to turn around the ship of public opinion, which they had been steering in the wrong direction for entirely too long and which only recently changed course. Pre will be awesome! It's from the people who pretty much invented the smartphone category at USRobotics/3Com/Palm/Handspring. If these people can't create the perfect smartphone, no one can - regardless of what the Apple fanboys tell you. I just hope, and as a blackberry user - wish, that they get email right. Email on a mobile device has been and will be the killer app - and no one but RIM can get it to work right. Back to Sprint - their plans are unbeatable. Their customer service has improved dramatically - it's night and day. Their device line-up is respectable. And the network is the best. If you haven't given them a chance or are a past customer who walked away due to endless troubles...take a second look at Sprint. Yeah, RIM really has email down to a "T" huh?
»www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/ptech/04/1···dex.html
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1 edit | Re: Will Apple allow it? I'd be very surprised if that ever happens Because according to many many patent lawyers. Apple is infringing on MANY of Palm's Patents also. Would Apple really want to go down that road?? To possibly have to actually be counter sued and lose? Which would force them to have to pay Palm quite a large sum.. even if only 10 - 20 cents per sold item that could equate to... Well according to Jan 2009 17 millions were sold that would be 3.4 millions if it was just 20 cents per item. Of course it would most likely be much more | |
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00000 | Re: Will Apple allow it? They would probably settle up with a cross patent licensing deal. | |
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| |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | How dare you say that. Don't you know Apple invented every cool gadget to every come along, and everyone else just copied them!
Ask Steve Jobs and his iWheel
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00000 | Re: Will Apple allow it? Don't forget iFire. | |
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | apple has the iPatent... | |
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|  jhboricuaExMod 2000-01
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Minneapolis, MN | I doubt this too, seeing how Elan has sued Apple over the technology and they have a very strong case having already won an injuction against synaptics on a previous lawsuit that ended in a cross-licensing deal. | |
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| | Whats in a name? Couldn't they have come up with a better name?
If they couldn't come up with a better name, why not just name it some numbers or letters... Sprint 187. Sprint PWND. | |
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | CDMA sucks I hope there will be an unlocked HSPA model otherwise I'll have to pass. | |
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| | | Re: CDMA sucks cdma wins except in europe and maybe africa.... | |
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kudos:5 | Re: CDMA sucks said by nnaarrnn:cdma wins except in europe and maybe africa.... CDMA is primarily in North America and in Canada they're losing, in fact the two CDMA carriers (Bell and Telus) are already rolling out HSPA. US will soon follow along with the rest of the world. | |
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AT&T is a marketing machine, but if you want the fastest data, you better go Sprint. I can't speak on their voice
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| kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | CDMA isn't so bad. It has much better call quality than GSM...and other useful features that mostly benefit the service provider.
It doesn't really matter though. CDMA (and GSM for that matter), as we know it, is pretty much an EoL technology....GSM and CDMA will converge into a single technology over the next couple of generations.
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| | mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
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kudos:5 | Re: CDMA sucks said by kapil:CDMA isn't so bad. It has much better call quality than GSM...and other useful features that mostly benefit the service provider. It doesn't really matter though. CDMA (and GSM for that matter), as we know it, is pretty much an EoL technology....GSM and CDMA will converge into a single technology over the next couple of generations. Yup but for me GSM beats CDMA in call quality. It's just that the US networks are poorly designed. Many of the Americans that come up here to Canada often comment that our GSM network is much better. | |
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: CDMA sucks I have an AT&T CrackBerry and a Sprint Moto 9QC phone.. It's PAINFUL AS HELL to talk on the Crackberry.. my Sprint phones, hands down, have always been a better call between the two carriers for me. | |
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 KoilPremium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC
1 edit | Anyone heard anything new regarding SERO plans & the Pre? Last time we were discussing this, I found an article that stated Sprint may not let current SERO plans onto the Pre phones, perhaps in a way of weeding out those accounts. I REALLY hope this isn't true. (I will try and find the article shortly), as I definitely would like to get this phone. I love my Centro, but I think I could be swayed for the Pre.
:EDIT: Well, it isn't hard to find, just GIS for "sprint pre sero" and you'll find a good bit of info, and yes it still looks like they're not going to let SERO plans onto the Pre...thats gonna be a deal breaker for me. May need to stock up on Centro's...hehe | |
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| kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: Anyone heard anything new regarding SERO plans & the Pre? said by Koil:thats gonna be a deal breaker for me. That's exactly what Sprint wants. Pay-up or leave. SERO was one hell of a plan...for the customer but not for the company.
With SERO you got 500 minutes of calling, 7 PM nights, unlimited data and text for $30 - that's the same amount AT&T wants to charge for the iPhone data plan!
If paying more is a deal breaker, go to the discount carriers like MetroPCS or Cricket and see what kind of phones and service they have.
You want nationwide service, fast data and cutting edge devices...you have to pay for the privilege.
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join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC | Re: Anyone heard anything new regarding SERO plans & the Pre? I actually have 1200 min (or 1500, I forget), N&W@7, unlimited data and txt for $50-ish a month.
I know exactly what the other companies charge, which is why I went with the SERO in the first place. I've been w/ Sprint for over 8 years now, and as I have said many times on this site, I love their coverage, their phones are ok, and their customer support in general sucks, though as mentioned, is getting better.
And by dealbreaker, I meant I won't be getting the Pre....they'll take my SERO from my cold dead fingers. | |
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I agree... Sprint can't afford to give it away for essentially nothing.
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| KoilPremium
join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC | Re: SERO update Crap | |
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| kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | said by wwdubbia:Pre and the Instinct will require the unlimited plan for $99. Pre was specifically flagged as not eligible for SERO. That is NOT correct. First, Instinct has been out for a long time.
Secondly, The $99, "unlimited" plan is NOT required - just an "Everything" plan.
The $99 plan is called "Simply Everything". You can have this plan or one of the other "Everything" plans. The only ones that make sense are of course the plans that include data because the device is pretty much useless without data.
You cannot, however, have the SERO plan (along with other older or grandfathered plans).
SERO was a shortsighted attempt to keep customers from defecting. Sprint loses money on every SERO plan...and those customers also tend to be the cheapest, most money-sucking, whining, cry-babies that want everything but want to pay nothing for it.
Search the interwebs...there are countless threads in forums from people who have the SERO plan but also tried to scam sprint into adding-on other freebies.
Denying SERO and other older plans from upgrading to latest hottest phone is an effective way to bring older customers to current standards, creating additional revenue and shed undesirable customers.
The less customers who have older plans, the better it is for providers - any provider, including Sprint. It makes it easier to train new employees, creates fewer headaches and calls to customer service for the customer.
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Re: SERO update I believe he meant that the Instinct ( should he/she decide to get one) is available to him/her but not for SERO. | |
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00000 | Pick May cause the new iPhone is coming The Pre may get drowned out by fawning press over the iPhone if it comes out on its traditional June 29th date. May 17 would give it a date to shine on its own plus grab up people who aren't willing to wait until June. | |
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|  huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Pick May cause the new iPhone is coming Which is exactly why I predict the Pre launch will slip. I am a Sprint sub and I think they are the best carrier by far for people who want to do a lot of things with their phones, but Sprint ALWAYS finds a way to shoot itself in the foot, marketing-wise. | |
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| | BitPremium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Re: Pick May cause the new iPhone is coming I've never been a Sprint fan but I think they're doing a lot of things right lately. I don't think they will squander this opportunity. Of all the phones that have been released since the iPhone, I think the Pre is the most eagerly anticipated. | |
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| |  mobModerhatedPremium
join:2000-10-07 | Nah man, when I am at the campus in OP...it's a different mood there now. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | said by Bit:The Pre may get drowned out by fawning press over the iPhone if it comes out on its traditional June 29th date. May 17 would give it a date to shine on its own plus grab up people who aren't willing to wait until June. I dunno.. any more, I think the iPhone is just what it is.. I don't think it has all the luster that it once used to. There isn't usually that much of a difference between anything apple puts out to make a huge impact.
I think version 3 of the software will be a bigger impact that the 3G - Second Generation phone will be itself.
Until Apple changes its (I'll say it) "draconian" pricing schemes, the majority of iPhone users are still locked in contracts from their current phones. And, an upgrade will cost an arm and two legs. With that, and in this economy, all the kids that love the iPhone are, well, you can't afford an iPhone on un-employment.
Unless apple does something drastic on pricing, I think this release will be a fizzle compared to the first launch of the iPhone. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Pick May cause the new iPhone is coming I agree with you that the iPhone is now pretty much ho-hum on its merits, but the tech press and blogosphere, for some reason, still seem to have a major boner for it (and for all things 'i' for that matter).
So even if you and I think the next iPhone release isn't all that, expect it to get a crazy amount of press, enough press to drown out or at least significantly dampen the PR boost Sprint/Palm might get if they release the Pre around the same time. | |
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1 edit | If you haven't seen the CES video presentation Here's the link (start at chapter 4 where they go into the actual phone):
»www.palm.com/us/products/phones/···ces.html
I like the interface a lot and the phone does have a lot of potential. Out the bat it looks better than the BB Storm (or is it Bold?). I think this phone has the potential to give the iPod a healthy dose of competition.
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: If you haven't seen the CES video presentation Unless the Palm group comes up with an Application community, I don't see it having the same success as the iPhoen did. And, I do think the Pre is going to be a great phone.. in fact, I'm looking forward to it's release. I get a new phone every year and my 1 year ends in May.. So, I'll be one of the first people in line for the Pre.
Where I think the pre will get it's users are from all the "rest" of the people that use PDAs that didn't care to bite into the apple. | |
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join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
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| Sprint CS is definitely trying to turn things around Ive posted about my great experiences with Sprint in the past ever since I switched to them last July after being a very longtime Verizon customer.. This past Thursday I was able to add another customer service plus to the list.. I had called up because my Blackberry had recently started getting stuck in roaming mode -- when it roams around here, it switches over to Verizon's network -- but loses EVDO and drops down to 1x data. So even though I'd be in a good Sprint area, if it had been roaming previously, it would stay that way until I manually turned off the radio and turned it back on again -- then it would lock onto a good Sprint signal.
The woman I spoke to at customer service asked me "is this address on your account a good place to send you a new phone?" -- I purchased the phone last August, and did not purchase insurance with the phone. After telling the rep that I didn't have the insurance she said "Oh, dont worry -- as a courtesy, I'll send you a phone and waive the replacement charge anyway." -- An hour later, I checked my account and sure enough there was a credit for $60.10 on the account, and today there was a replacement phone on my doorstep.
I'm jumping on the Pre when it becomes available.
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