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»www.fiercewireless.com/story/hua···10-07-12
Would like to see Clear stick with WiMAX and gain more support from cable industry. Would make sense for WiMAX to maintain support for the cable/consumer electronics industry. WiMAX will die (in the US) if the cable industries don't pump more $$$ into it. For some reason, several here want WiMAX to die.
Would like to see Sprint slowly convert CDMA spectrum to LTE over 5 years and merge with TMobile by then.
Sprint's opportunity is to have a leg in both cable/consumer electronics/IEEE and telcom/3GPP industries. | |
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Singlemode WiMax chipsets ran about $20 in volume as of the end of 2009 or $35 to $40 for the entire module; and some chipset vendors expect prices to drop to $12 to $14 by the end of 2010. That’s cheaper than 3G modules and significantly less than LTE. LTE modules with 3G fallback cost around $120 to $190.
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···=194172& | |
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| | | | Re: Meanwhile, more LTE rumors Sprint will stay with WiMax. It doesn't make sense for them to build out 43 markets and offer the 4g phone only to have to relaunch another LTE phone in all place of 0the WiMax's phones they plan on launching.
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kudos:1 | Re: Meanwhile, more LTE rumors Sprint will be using WiMAX for the next year or 2 without question, but what is Sprint going to replace CDMA with? Will they really keep all their CDMA carriers (1.25 mhz) running, even thought they will be getting more and more empty? or will sprint cut the price of 3G service to fill the underutilized 3G system, the way they did with Nextel and Boost unlimited service?
And when will the sun set on GSM/CDMA in the USA? I believe ATT Wireless discontinued selling TDMA phones in 2003. TDMA ended just 5 years later. I can't use Verizon as a comparison since CDMA is just as old as TDMA, and still kicking. I highly doubt Verizon was selling any analog only phones in the 2000s or late 1990s.
Sprint and Tmobile never ended a cellphone technology.
So when will CDMA die? or does its spectral efficiency mean its going to be around for atleast another decade to serve voice users?
Japan already killed GSM. UTMS/HSDPA voice calls only there now. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Meanwhile, more LTE rumors Sprint will move to WiMax for everything. It only makes sense for them at this point. And as far as their CDMA network they can move that to WiMax as well. they'll work with HTC to do dual mode phones for voice and data and once they're set to do that they'll start pushing market after market, especially the ones that already have WiMax data.
As far as GSM here in the states. TMO and ATT are the only true national carriers of that and i don't see ATT nor TMO giving up that network anytime soon. TMO did try UTMS but never went all the way with those phones and network.
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Valencia, CA | Yup - I'd expect LTE chips to be expensive for a while, as carriers are just starting to get onboard, and its 'supply vs. demand'
With WiMAX, the supply has built up, but there isn't the (relative) demand or forcasted demand. | |
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| | | Why would you want to see Sprint merge with T-Mobile? 4 competitors too many for you? Sky-high prices too low for you? | |
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| | | | Re: Meanwhile, more LTE rumors TMO could get what they need from Sprint. One sprint has their 4g network being built NOW. TMO doesn't and is still playing with their 3g network. Sprint has customers and management to take them into the next place. But TMO has the knowledge on what to do and can do it. They both have low prices, Sprint is banking on the prepaid market on the Boost and Virgin Mobile sides...and TMO is moving to no-contract as well.
This would be a great solution for both of them. Sprint would just need to sell off the iDEN network or spin off Boost and that network together to their own company. and absorb Virgin into TMO along with the Sprint customers. It would be possible if they started with the 4g network.
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| | | | said by sonicmerlin:Why would you want to see Sprint merge with T-Mobile? 4 competitors too many for you? Sky-high prices too low for you? Yeah I don't get that either. It makes no sense for a Sprint merger with T-mobile and isn't beneficial for consumers either. Each company will continue to plod along on their own for the foreseeable future imo.
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| | Hopefully Sprint/Clear will hold onto WiMax Especially since 802.16m is supposed to be coming down the pike. It is supposed to be a LOT faster, and will be true "4G".
I don't see why people want WiMax to die either, as it is a very viable alternative to other competing products. If it weren't for WiMax, I'd still be on a shoddy DSL connection. | |
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| | Can they fix the sites they have already done? The coverage in Houston is sooooooooo bad! It's really worthless! It comes in strong on one place, go a block away and no signal.... | |
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Lincolnshire, IL | Re: Can they fix the sites they have already done? Not too long ago, but before Houston's official launch, I read an article which said Clearwire was encountering a lot of difficulty securing leases from building owners of some of Houston's tallest buildings. And if I remember right, JPMorgan-Chase tower was among them.
If it's anything like the Chicago rollout, coverages will get better.
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join:2005-07-16 | Rochester Finally! Good for Rochcha! I'll be in Rochester tomorrow and Wednesday. I can't wait to see what the speeds will be like. Sucks Both Syracuse and Rochester now have 4G, but not here in the Buffalo area, but oh well. I'm in Rochester two days a week for work and go there a few times a month.
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East Petersburg, PA | Re: Rochester So do you have the service with Clear already or getting the rebranded from TMC?
Go Pen's! | |
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Rochester Neither. I have the Evo. I average 1.5-2.0 Mb Down and a little under 1Mb Up on 3G in both the Buffalo and Rochester areas using the Speedtest.net app. | |
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| | | | | Re: Rochester so you have rebranded Clear by Sprint. | |
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Rochester Who gives a shit. Clear, Sprint, RR Mobile. It's all the same. | |
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Springfield, OR | Re: Rochester almost, the inet backbone differs slightly, at least between Clear and Sprint. you'll notice on clear you'll get a clearwire-wmx.net domain and sprintpcs.net or something with Sprint, and latency and bandwidth on both 'nets differs a bit. Clear is faster and better performing latency wise...
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Rochester Rochester > Buffalo
- Trash Plates
- More Wegmans per square mile then Buffalo (and the Pittsford Wegmans owns all)
- Dinosaur BBQ
- More tech affluent
- Sprint 4G
- Not in Erie Country
I love Buffalo and will always live in WNY, but I've always like Rochester more.
- Before I got XM I used to listen to Rochester Radio over Buffalo Radio
- I bought my iPhone at the Eastview Mall in Victor so I could have a 585 area code, number now ported over to the Evo.
- WHEC Channel 10 App on my phone, not WIVB 4
- My cable service comes from Time Warner out of Rochester not Buffalo, while I get Buffalo local channels on digital cable, I do watch Rochester TV via unencrypted QAM at times.
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| | I think we need clarity So when you say push..... does that mean they turned a tower or 2 on somewhere within the city limits of the said city?
St. Louis was "pushed" recently and yet 3G is all I am seeing no matter where I go with the phone. So I am curious where I need to go stand to get 4G service? | |
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| | | Re: I think we need clarity go to the Clear.com page and look. They'll show you by street level view the same as the Sprint covermap will. Someone didn't even bother to check the maps. coverage.sprint.com But why not bother go to Sprint's Corp office and try it. It's in Overlandpark.
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| How does Sprint decide which market? So how does Sprint decide which market to deploy?
Did a bunch of their exec's sit in a room and throw a dart on the map?!?
Merced/Visalia, CA is as "middle of nowhere" America as it gets, so how do they justify their return on investing in 4G deployments in those area's?
San Francisco/Silicon Valley is ~2hours away, so when will we get 4G? | |
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| | | Re: How does Sprint decide which market? smaller markets mean they can build the network out there faster. Otherwise why doesn't NYC have it already? Plus from the looks at it, a lot of companies use Merced/Visalia as a test market.
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| Re: How does Sprint decide which market? If a market has traditionally been a Sprint Strength (or a competing carrier has a major weakness), I can see Sprint coming in with guns blazing; this is especially true if one of their partners (TWC or Comcast) is the dominant cable company in that same area.
The Washington, DC area is home to Uncle Sam (traditionally a Sprint Strength) and Comcast's Beltway Region, so why have both Sprint (and, more tellingly, Clear) lagged on deployment? VZW is also very strong here (arguably, this is the strongest market VZW has); further, there is a limit on tower height (or even building height) over and above restrictions around the region's three major and many general-aviation airports (specifically, the Height Act). Even so, Clear (though now available) drops to 3G outside the Capital Beltway by more than a mile (however, *inside* said Beltway, Clear is as powered up with 4G as it is anywhere else). If you're a Comcast (or even Sprint) customer already with a traditional (outside-in) commute (or a commute entirely within the Beltway's circumference), then Clear can make loads of sense; however, inverted (inside the Beltway to outside) or long commutes that start and finish outside the Beltway would rule Clear out. | |
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| | | Many of the smaller markets are being launched as they had the older version of WiMax. They are trying to get all the former Clearwire markets upgraded to mobile WiMax. | |
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| | | | Re: How does Sprint decide which market? not at all. Dayton Ohio isn't even on that list of being upgraded. Instead it's the 3 C's. | |
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| | Sprint most reliable Wireless I had sprint for couple of years before moving to AT&T ( because my wife wants an iphone )
If sprint provides GSM Phones ( with SIM card ).
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| | Ohio I hear that Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati will be launched in September... | |
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| | | Re: Ohio thats been in the news for a long time now. They're building Cleveland now. And have been for sometime. | |
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| | | | Re: Ohio I've heard nothing about Columbus, nor does Sprint's site include it. Cleveland and Cincinnatti, yes, but not Columbus. Is there a source for that? | |
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| | NYC may already be online! My friend who owns an EVO called Sprint the other to to complain about the extra $10 charge for a service that he really doesn't have access to in Manhattan. He was told by the Sprint rep to hang in there a couple of extra days, and if he didn't see change in his service quality they'd gladly remove it and give him credit.
Well 3 days later, he was getting 4g service. He says that it's so fast that it smokes everything else he's tried. The service is fast.
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New Brunswick, NJ | Re: NYC may already be online! That's good for him, but sadly they also lied. No way they'd have removed and credited him the $10 they charge on 4G phones. Just ask everyone else that has an EVO in an area with no 4G. :l | |
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| | | | Re: NYC may already be online! they can credit the $10 per month, but only 1 department can do that. That is Retentions. They have the power to do pretty much anything for a customer and is one of the most useful departments in Sprint.
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| | | | They told him to wait a few days, and so he did, and 4g was turned on around his way. Now he doesn't mind paying the extra 10 bucks a months since he's getting something in return now. | |
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| | | I can confirm that I'm seeing almost-continuous 4G from South Brooklyn all the way to the Bronx. | |
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| | Thank you Thank you. I come from Germany ¡ greating. Are useful blog. | |
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