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Sprint Puts On a XOHM Party
Holds PR event in Baltimore...
by Karl Bode Wednesday 08-Oct-2008 tags: business · wireless
Sprint today put on a public relations extravaganza in Baltimore to herald the launch (see speeds & pricing) of their new XOHM mobile WiMax network. Sprint execs addressed concerns about throttling, whether a sour economy would impact XOHM, and addressed mobile WiMax-enabled device availability. Meanwhile, the openness Sprint promised in regards to devices used on the XOHM network might not be as open as promised -- an executive from Lenovo today calling the XOHM device testing and approval process "narrow." All in all it has been a fairly successful launch for XOHM: customers like the pricing and speeds, though deployment is certainly limited and the initial launch market of Baltimore isn't exactly challenging (precisely why they chose it). Have any of our readers been able to play with XOHM yet?

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chicago

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xohm party

Works pretty well in Chicago, Evanston.

S_engineer
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Re: xohm party

said by chicago :

Works pretty well in Chicago, Evanston.
Where in Chicago?
I've tried multiple southside zips (all south of Congress)and nothing is available.

Maybe they're just trying to market to Cub fans

Do Right

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Re: xohm party

It's not going to pull up until launch..

chicago

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yeah may be for the cubs fans. I live in Lakeview getting 2mb down 1mb up. In Evanston at work, I'm getting 1.2mb down 500 up. Of course, it's not "turned on" yet, so may be it will improve up until the official launch.
wierdo

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Why should I be excited, again?

If you're talking 4/1 for $35 (at home), that's not really a very good deal at all. Wireless ISPs using 802.11a/b/g have been doing that and more for years.

Mobile, it's pretty decent, but why would anybody want this for their house? Just because it's got a relatively big name behind it?
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Do Right

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

Avg speeds are 2 to 4mb / .5 to 1.5mb... You could see speeds as high as 7 or 8mb dl / 1.5 to 2mb ul... It's a great deal... with no long term contract and low prices on equipment..

Do Right

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

Got 8mb dl/ 1.6mb ul today on an aircard.. Couldn't believe it... This was at inner harbor...

ninjatutle
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I'll be surprised if this thing is around at this time next year.

phoneboy3

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

LOL!

Not only will it still be around, all laptops sold a year from now will have built in WiMAX.....

Where do these people come from with these opinions! LOL!

ninjatutle
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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

I've set an appt on my Outlook calendar for Thursday October 8, 2009 with a link to this thread. I'll see if Xohm is thriving or eating dirt.
ihateskapunk

join:2005-08-28
Lake Zurich, IL

Re: Why should I be excited, again?

WELL, xohm set to merge with clearwire at the end of the year. so you have to take that into account. it WONT be called xohm.

ninjatutle
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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

Wireless ISP's have not succeeded here in the U.S. on a large scale bases. Or even a medium scale. Metrofi, Ricochet , Earthlink, etc. That is why I'm certain this will not take off either.

Wimax might be good for 3rd world nations but we're a first class nation.
iansltx

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

Problems with your logic:

1. The projects you mentioned used WiFi, not WiMAX. WiFi was never meant to cover large areas. WiMAX is.

2. So you're saying that first-world countries shouldn't get 4G networks, and thus be stuck with 3-3.75G foolishness. I mean, EvDO is great and all, but c'mon...

3. Outside of town, and even in town, there are tons of wireless ISPS that survive and thrive, with download and upload speeds much lower than Xohm at a much higher cost. If Xohm was available here in Golden, CO I would think seriously about getting it...$35/month is cheaper than 1.5/896 DSL around these parts. Certainly cheaper than 4/1 or 6/1 cable.
And I would definitely get Xohm if it was available back in my hometown, where outside of town you pay $45 per month plus $200 setup for a network that *might* get you 512k downloads, unpredictable uploads and latency that varies from *okay* to sky-high.

So yeah, I think Xohm will be around in a year, unless FiOS comes to every area that has Xohm (and probably not even then) or unless Sprint is taking a huge loss on the equipment\service. Oh, and unless Clearwire mucks up the offering with killer throttling and bandwidth managment.

ninjatutle
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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

Calling Wimax 4g is joke.
iansltx

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

The WiMAX spec calls for 70 Mbps symmetric maximum throughput. Commercial devices today are rated up to 23 Mbps (Redline) and 17 Mbps (Alvarion). Plus, technically CDMA 1xRTT is 3G...

If you're thinking about LTE, yes that's 4G. It's also a year or three away from actually coming into use. WiMAX is significantly faster in theory and in practice than HSPA in the same situations, and maybe HSPA+ when AT&T gets around to deploying that.

So yes, I'll call mobile WiMAX 4G.

a333
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hmmm, so according to you, "1st class nations" (whatever THAT rather dim-witted comment could mean) don't deserve 4G networks? And yes WiMax is 4G. With 100 Mhz of spectrum, it can easily do 1 Gbits/sec (in fixed apps). Mobile applications will also see speeds as high as 100 Mbits/sec given sufficient spectrum. Really, the only game here is exactly how much spectrum each provider has managed to grab in teh auctionzz, since theoretically, the spectral efficiency, given real-world factors, is pretty much the same across the board of 4G technologies. So, in the end, Sprint wins hands down bandwidth-wise, already with 100 Mhz spectrum per market.

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

said by a333:

So, in the end, Sprint wins hands down bandwidth-wise, already with 100 Mhz spectrum per market.
But one of the biggest problems they face still is the backhaul capacity, at least on a nationwide roll out.
The redundancy would be pretty low if they had 5 towers all pulling from one backhaul tower, optically, or whatever they will use.
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rawgerz
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You have to realize those were municipal projects. They can have terms so stupid that no one can make it a success. Not to mention wifi is a bad choice for large roll outs anyways.
Sprint's got the private spectrum in this case, their own towers, and they own half of Clearwire. With wireless ISPs they have to take the hefty costs of tower space rental and backbone bandwidth costs, so it's no wonder there's not more.

Maybe Sprint's plan is to wait for one of the larger carriers like Verizon to buy their shares out and gut out Clearwire, all while making a nice chunk of change.
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compuwizz

join:2001-03-05
Reston, VA
Part of Intel's Centrino 2's launch includes provisions for Wimax to be included in the laptop.
expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY
I'd be surprised to see anything other than cynical postings from you...wow...

Xohm really opens up some opportunities, I have a feeling that its actually going to entice quicker deployments of LTE.

But thats just me.....
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said by wierdo:

If you're talking 4/1 for $35 (at home), that's not really a very good deal at all. Wireless ISPs using 802.11a/b/g have been doing that and more for years.

Mobile, it's pretty decent, but why would anybody want this for their house? Just because it's got a relatively big name behind it?
yeah, and deal with the horrid interference and over subscription problems that plague pretty much every WISP operating on unlicensed frequences. Been there done that. None of the providers I was with offered anything close to 4 meg down at 35 bucks, in fact, they didn't even offer speeds that fast at all. I paid 60 bucks for 1 Mb down, which was eventually capped down to 512k. Now on Sprint EVDO paying about the same for 1200/400.
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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

said by ydoucare:

Been there done that. None of the providers I was with offered anything close to 4 meg down at 35 bucks, in fact, they didn't even offer speeds that fast at all. I paid 60 bucks for 1 Mb down, which was eventually capped down to 512k. Now on Sprint EVDO paying about the same for 1200/400.
I picked that price as an example because one of my clients has that service right now. Sometimes, with contention, it gets bogged down to as low as 1.5Mbps, but that's not the norm.

WiFi isn't all roses, it can be rightly said to be hit and miss, but if you can get it, you're better off than with this overpriced offering.

As far as WiMax being 4G, call me when we see mobile speeds in the multi-megabit range in the real world. I expect it will end up performing about like HSDPA does when the terminal is in motion. In a fixed location, with a fixed antenna, it should be capable of far more than what Sprint is currently selling, though.
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Do Right

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Re: Why should I be excited, again?

What do you really have that would even compare to 4G Wimax in OK? Do you even have anything that gets 6-7mb dl / 2mb ul for $35 a month?

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Happy so far!

I'm using XOHM here in the DC area, speeds range but so far I've seen 4 to 7Mbps down and 768kbps to 3Mbps up. I have the Zyxel home modem from XOHM. Service for a 'test' market has been pretty good. I got the PC Express card as well but haven't played with it yet, as I really don't have a need for it. (Cheap enough, why not..) As for the modem, it's lacking BIG TIME in basic features in the administrative pages. Hopefully that will change with a firmware update but we'll see. It's pretty much only port forwarding for now.

I guess they're looking to get into the VOIP arena before to long. There are two RJ11 ports on the modem.
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ztmike
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XOHM at home?

I'm guessing since this is wireless that I will need a antenna of some sort or a satellite outside of my place?

Which might be a problem since I live in a apartment complex..

Also, when this is launched in Chicago, will I be able to get it here in NW Indiana? (63 miles East of Chicago)
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Do Right

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Re: XOHM at home?

No antenna or sat needed... Works of towers.. The modem or aircard is all that is needed.. You in Dekalb?

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Re: XOHM at home?

said by Do Right :

No antenna or sat needed... Works of towers.. The modem or aircard is all that is needed.. You in Dekalb?
I'm in michigan city, indiana
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Pv8man

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Hammond, IN

My boss got XOHM

He said the modem they sent was DOA. But, they had no problem sending a new one.

Xohmg

@comcast.net

Re: My boss got XOHM

Take a look at the coverage map of Baltimore, see how far it stretches outside of the city center. I'm guessing it'll be close to the same for Chicago coverage? Michigan city might be kind of far, who knows.
pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA

WiMax *IS* 4G, Folks

Sorry to burst bubbles, but WiMax is 4G. Unless you have something else capable of 6 to 8 megabits that is mobile. AT&T 3G? I think not. EVDO? Nope. Xohm will do very well. (And I grit my teeth, because I hate Sprint.)

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