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Sprint Selects ZyXEL for WiMAX
Will the partnership prove to be a good one?
by KathrynV Saturday 25-Aug-2007 tags: business · wireless · Sprint Mobile Broadband
Sprint is spending a fortune to roll out nationwide mobile WiMAX (marketed under the name Xohm). That’s good news for ZyXEL Communications which is the company that Sprint has selected for providing the equipment to be used with the network. ZyXEL has been working for about a year providing WiMAX products including an all-in-one WiMAX, Wi-Fi, security and VoIP system, technology which Sprint hopes will take its network to the next level. Hopefully Sprint won’t find that their customers have they same kind of troubles with ZyXEL’s WiMAX as they did when they worked with the company on broadband a few years ago. For those of you who still don’t quite understand WiMAX, BusinessWeek has a good summary of its history.

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But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

Lots of talk about Wimax and its potential. But not a lot of details out there about what kind of speeds can be expected on either the home based or mobile platforms.

Anybody have any real data they read somewhere about trial programs? What will real world speeds be like? Because that will determine if Wimax can make inroads against DSL or Cable on the home based systems and against 3G on the mobile front.
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Michieru_

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Re: But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

Give Clearwire a call, they should know as far as mobile WiMAX goes, fixed we can expect way higher bit rates comparable to shortwave radio which can go all the way too 100Mbps.

A good ass.umption will be the following.

1-10Mbps wireless
1-65Mbps fixed
70Mbps fixed (optimal conditions)

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Re: But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

said by Michieru_ :

Give Clearwire a call, they should know as far as mobile WiMAX goes, fixed we can expect way higher bit rates comparable to shortwave radio which can go all the way too 100Mbps.

A good ass.umption will be the following.

1-10Mbps wireless
1-65Mbps fixed
70Mbps fixed (optimal conditions)
uhhh...I'm not sure shortwave radio can go that high, Michieru; if it could, I'm fairly certain there would have been shortwave modems a long time ago....as far as I can tell, the best shortwave radio out there transmits and receives at 14.4k...far less than spectacular.

Either way, all those good numbers mean nothing, unless you put the "back" in "backhaul"; If I see speeds over 5 meg, I'll be shocked.

Either way, I'm betting this will cover a lot of ruralites who normally don't have access to DSL or cable...and it just might nab a customer or two in the city.

Michieru_

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Re: But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

Indeed I could be mistaken, but I remember of some wireless technology maybe it was simply a backhaul solution provided by Sago-Networks.

About numbers, well as long as you have the transmission rates high enough, the ability is there, simply not being used. As more customers start enjoying the service more bandwidth needs to be available.

If the technology wants to at least last it's 10 year lifespan, it will need to compete with current Comcast offerings of 8Mbps/768kbps.

But wireless is a whole different ballgame, and many factors come into play, but it's at least a step forward to the elimination of the phone box and amongst other things on the side of your house.

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Re: But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

said by Michieru_ :

Indeed I could be mistaken, but I remember of some wireless technology maybe it was simply a backhaul solution provided by Sago-Networks.
Yeah, I think I remember reading/hearing about something along those lines...certainly, a wireless backhaul of 100 meg (or more) is possible, I wasn't denying that...just not with shortwave radio.

About numbers, well as long as you have the transmission rates high enough, the ability is there, simply not being used. As more customers start enjoying the service more bandwidth needs to be available.
Yup, that's what I was getting at...for example, I have EVDO, and given my signal strength, I know I could get more than 1270-1280k (as I've gotten around 2200k elsewhere)...but, because the backhaul is only one T1 line (and Sprint keeps 256k for themselves v_v) I only have access to 1288k (or lower, if someone else gets on). All in all, WiMAX has great potential; they just better make sure they have enough backhaul to each tower.

But wireless is a whole different ballgame, and many factors come into play, but it's at least a step forward to the elimination of the phone box and amongst other things on the side of your house.
Yup; it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out; if Sprint plays their game right, it could establish them as a nationwide WISP....hopefully they will, as this will really help a LOT of rural people get true broadband.

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lower then dsl im afraid

cable company's will be all over it them been the BMW and WIMAX and DSL been hyundai.

that's why verizon when for fios makes u think why sprint wasting money on the mobile side it's quite good compare to cellphone internet networks been sprint needs it i guess they maybe it's less expensive then there cellphone network
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Re: But what will the speeds be? Base & mobile?

said by mechuio :

lower then dsl im afraid

cable company's will be all over it them been the BMW and WIMAX and DSL been hyundai.

that's why verizon when for fios makes u think why sprint wasting money on the mobile side it's quite good compare to cellphone internet networks been sprint needs it i guess they maybe it's less expensive then there cellphone network
The mobile WiMax will probably see about 4mbps in the field. It won't compete with wireline broadband, except for those people who want to use the same connection out of the home as in the home.

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Sprint wants next generation local last mile access

Sprint appears to be adding WiMax as a means of getting more clients on their nationwide backbone. They are aware that coverage of WiMax will very spotty until it's on all of their towers, so mobile operation on WiMax won't be as good as EVDO. For fixed point clients, a small directional antenna will offer useful high quality wireless access at a competitive cost.

I've worked with Sprint on some EVDO networking projects for my clients. They are much more tuned in to the idea of using wireless to bring on all types of clients, voice and data., and they are trying to be smart about it. They also know they got to improve their network and access to do so. Although their local metro area and interstate PCS EVDO coverage have improved greatly, they still don't have the nationwide coverage of VZW or ATTW, which causes them many potential mobile clients. So Sprint is taking a different approach with WiMax; it'll be a means of adding more clients to their network if the do it right.

Remember, Sprint does not own any local last mile cables of it own anymore, so they want to use WiMax for local access as a means of broadening their customer base. The mesh capabilities of WiMax will allow their fixed (later mobile) Wimax network to grow as they add clients and more towers.

Their strategy is emerging, and it shows great potential if implemented properly. We'll see.
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Will I be able to use the fixed wireless connection?

Will I be able to use the fixed wireless connection for my desktop and get off my dial up? Without using a mobile phone?
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Re: Will I be able to use the fixed wireless connection?

the Wi-Max isn't going to use a phone. Its not the same as EV-DO. Its totally different. They have to actually put up new equipment where they want to offer the service. It will be something like Clearwire.com
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Re: Will I be able to use the fixed wireless connection?

I hope the price plans are more competitive than Clearwire's.

If you can get it, Sprint's SERO beats Clearwire any day.
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Re: Will I be able to use the fixed wireless connection?

I wouldn't count on that since Clearwire and Sprint is teaming up to do a nationwide network together. Sprint will most likely stop upgrading markets once this service is available to pretty much their entire network or the ones they want to upgrade to EV-DO or WiMax
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sprint is going to overpay...

As of late, Sprint is making very poor hardware vendor choices and it will cost them dearly not only in overpaying, but an overall LOSS in customer base..

I'm not sure how many times this company can shoot itself in the foot and keep going, they're not the energizer bunny..

Wimaxxx GURU

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Quite funny.

It is even more funny to listin to all the comments from people that don't know about how this all is supposed to work.

^_^

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Re: Quite funny.

said by Wimaxxx GURU :

It is even more funny to listin to all the comments from people that don't know about how this all is supposed to work.

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Sprint is Upgrading!

Sprint has an entirely new marketing stategy that has already launched. They do intend to eventually bring WiMax mobile but its future dated...no telling when. Customer service is getting much better...less time on hold. They are coming out with new technology, actually 4G. I wonder if they can do it? Anyone know what 4G will mean to mobile users?

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