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New Ev-DO Rev is faster, smaller and has more storage
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tags: business · wireless · bandwidth · Sprint Mobile Broadband
Sprint has been a leader in wireless broadband with EVDO cards that bring broadband speeds to mobile devices. They’ve announced the upcoming release of the “world’s smallest EV-DO Rev., the Ovation U727, which carries 4GB of data to provide “on-the-go mobile broadband access” to any device with a basic Type A USB port. The technology, developed in conjunction with Novatel Wireless, works on the Sprint Mobile Broadband Network to give users speeds of 3.1 Mbps for downloads and 1.8 Mbps for uploads (although we know that the real times are significantly slower than these “peak time” performance speeds). Nevertheless, this does bring faster speeds to Sprint mobile users who will be able to get the U727 starting next month. Trying to stay in competition with Sprint, Alltel is expanding their EVDO market.

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ninjatutle
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So is it time to upgrade my Merlin S720 PC card to this thing?

MadDog3057
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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

So is it time to upgrade my Merlin S720 PC card to this thing?
I'd say no since that card already supports EVDO Rev A.
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CMoore2004
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It's just another USB modem that has storage capabilities. I don't really think whoever wrote this story understands the original story or knows how to interpret it.
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said by CMoore2004 See Profile :

It's just another USB modem that has storage capabilities. I don't really think whoever wrote this story understands the original story or knows how to interpret it.
precisely; I don't really see the big deal of this anyway; it's just a smaller version of the U720 with a microSD card slot (that can handle up to 4GB microSD cards)...quite frankly, I don't really see how the storage capability is helpful out all...the smaller size? Maybe (as long as it's just as durable)....but....I just don't see this product being all that special

rawgerz
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My thoughts exactly...
here I was hopeful after reading the title that faster speeds were on the way..

Majestik
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I was told that you do not need any software and you can just plug it into any computer and instant online.
CMoore2004
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Featuring an extremely durable design and remarkably small form factor, the U727 combines a variety of innovative features, including an integrated dual band diversity antennae system with flip-up antennae to maximize data speed performance and provide for stronger network signal reception. Sprint Mobile Broadband Lite Manager Software is included to simplify set-up and navigation through the vast feature set of the Ovation U727, eliminating the need to install drivers from a CD when using the Windows platform.

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I though he was lying to me but i guess he was telling the truth. They offered u727 to me free including free 6-12 months and no contract because of the trouble they cause me with that mogul since july and thought i would like it better since it has new feature and durable.

Said it was coming out on 18th. and they will let me know.
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ninjatutle
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Well they made it sound as if this thing was going to double my speeds
JRVS

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Dialer required?

Anyone know if custom dialer software is required to use this (or any existing wireless EVDO Rev A card for that matter), or will a standard Windows XP DUN connection be able to connect to it?

A client of mine would be REAL interested in this if I could build a CMAK connection package that would make the wireless ISP connection followed by a VPN connection in one step, as we now do with 56K dialup. But to make that possible, it would have to work with a plain old dialup connectoid because CMAK doesn't support custom dialers.

rawgerz
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Re: Dialer required?

it makes a few dialup connections in windows, so you can use it that way too.
If you turn on "Dial another connection first", and uncheck "display progress while connecting" and "Prompt for password" in the VPN settings it will work, and the evdo connection is disabled when VPN is disconnected.
JRVS

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Re: Dialer required?

Thanks for your reply.

> If you turn on "Dial another connection first"

CMAK (Connection Manager Administration Kit) doesn't work that way; XP VPN connections include the settings you mention but not CMAK. CMAK is a requirement...we run scripts before the connection, after the connection, and after the disconnect.

In order to work with CMAK, it either needs to be "always on" (and it sounds like that's not the case), or I'd need to be able to connect to the ISP with nothing more than a phone number, username & password, as with a conventional DUN connection. No non-Windows software (whether installed from CD or onboard memory).

Are any of the "few dialup connections in windows" standard XP DUN connections?

rawgerz
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Re: Dialer required?

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Yep, I've never tried them for extended periods of time, since you can't monitor signal levels and such, but the second one does connect like any DUN as you put it.
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said by JRVS See Profile :

Thanks for your reply.

> If you turn on "Dial another connection first"

CMAK (Connection Manager Administration Kit) doesn't work that way; XP VPN connections include the settings you mention but not CMAK. CMAK is a requirement...we run scripts before the connection, after the connection, and after the disconnect.

In order to work with CMAK, it either needs to be "always on" (and it sounds like that's not the case), or I'd need to be able to connect to the ISP with nothing more than a phone number, username & password, as with a conventional DUN connection. No non-Windows software (whether installed from CD or onboard memory).

Are any of the "few dialup connections in windows" standard XP DUN connections?
Most aircards install a special driver and software but all you really need is the driver & DUN the software is just an extra to show signal strength, and IMO totally useless diagnostics.
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Re: Dialer required?

Thanks, joako & rawgerz. Sounds like it would be worth getting one for testing. Sprint has EVDO rev A coverage through pretty much all of the 3 cities where they have remote computers.

Lots of profitable technologies would become practical for them if I could get them to switch from 56K dialup to broadband for their remote computers. Just to be able to use Remote Assistance would save them many times the cost of the broadband connection.

rawgerz
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Re: Dialer required?

As long as you dont roam into non evdo areas (rtt) you would be satisfied. RTT is worse than dialup.. oh lord
JRVS

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Re: Dialer required?

I've done RTT with another client. Better than nothing for mobile use...but I'd agree: Not better by much!
jdmatl

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Software Required

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On-board memory allows the U727 to install without needing a CD, you simply need to insert the modem and allow the software to self-install and click activate on windows machines. The U727 is compatible with Windows Vista, XP, 2000 and Mac OS and Linux OS machines with a USB interface.

Anonuser

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for new speeds, big deal. I'm already seeing 2mbit down and 1.4mbit upload speeds.
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joker5656

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Sprint wireless, hahahahaha

i hate Sprint, tried them for a day and couldn't even get service in my house. outside was fine, but not inside. can't imagine how bad there wireless is

wookie755

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Re: Sprint wireless, hahahahaha

Just cause you live in the boonies and tried your cell on the fringe of service, doesn't have any bearing on the quality of their service overall. The fact is, that Sprint is on the forefront of high speed wireless service in the country, with Verizon closely on their heels. I consistently get 300kbps plus on my EVDO Rev. 0 device. I can only imagine how much better Rev. A is.
joker5656

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Re: Sprint wireless, hahahahaha

actually i don't live in the boonies, i live in a city, a fairly large one at that. look under my name
xenophon

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Re: Sprint wireless, hahahahaha

South Carolina is Alamosa territory, which Sprint recently bought out. It will eventually get EVDO and better coverage.

Check out evdoforums.com as Sprint EVDO is outselling Verizon 2:1.
yahtzee
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said by joker5656 See Profile :

i hate Sprint, tried them for a day and couldn't even get service in my house. outside was fine, but not inside. can't imagine how bad there wireless is
Are you a hermit?

I love these types of uneducated posts.....so because Sprint doesnt work in YOUR house their wireless business is bad?

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tc1uscg

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NO wireless carrier will guarantee connectivity indoors or buildings. They will install repeaters, as they did for Ford plant in Detroit where they use about 3000 ready link phones. I've had issues too with Sprint and indoors (inside all metal buildings, for get it, even with 3 bars outside) but then, my brain kicked in and I realized I was using a radio, not phone. Something too many people forget.

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EVDO poor here

Sprint has EVDO Rev A here, it was super fast at first, but as I was curious to see, it seems like as its become more popular, they must not have the spectrum for it around here. Using their connection software, I can see I'm on EV-DO rather than 1xRTT, with moderate to good signal, and I'm getting 70Kbps download and 35Kbps upload at 5:00pm. It use to be blazing fast, and at different points in the day, it can still get pretty fast, but heavy times, its slow as a dog.
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Re: EVDO poor here

said by BillRoland See Profile :

Sprint has EVDO Rev A here, it was super fast at first, but as I was curious to see, it seems like as its become more popular, they must not have the spectrum for it around here. Using their connection software, I can see I'm on EV-DO rather than 1xRTT, with moderate to good signal, and I'm getting 70Kbps download and 35Kbps upload at 5:00pm. It use to be blazing fast, and at different points in the day, it can still get pretty fast, but heavy times, its slow as a dog.
You should open a trouble ticket. I kept complaining about signals around my house and lots of their sprint users too were having issues. They, after 3 months, put up some antenna elements on a T-Mobile tower near my house. Now I have max bars and that's inside my house, basement or anywhere.

Loker
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Available Now.

the U727 is now available on the Sprint Website...
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Re: Available Now.

And evdoinfo.com sells the card with a free 1GB card and I think the drivers loaded on the card.

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The person that wrote this story doesn't really seem too educated on the subject. A Rev A modem is a Rev A modem, they're all built around the same standard and should perform similarly. Other than having storage capabilities, the U727 isn't really anything special, and certainly does not "speed up" wireless broadband.

It would be nice if Sprint could pipe in at least 3 Mb of backhaul to every tower, but that's not the case, and is why you're not going really going to see any Rev A modem truly perform at max capacity.

"New Ev-DO Rev is faster, smaller and has more storage" ??? lol
andrec10

join:2002-09-06
Hyde Park, NY

Verizon and Sprint...

I have both Sprint for work (Blackberry 8703e), and Verizon for Personal. The 2 dont even compare. Sprint drops all of the time, unless i roam over to a verizon tower. EVDO to EVDO from each carrier does not compare. Verizon is faster hands down. Sprint may be cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

a333
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Re: Verizon and Sprint...

ehhh,can you read?
in case you dont realize, sprint's national coverage beats the (u no what) out of verizon's.
So get your facts straight bfore bashing a service.
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