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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV
| Re: Then next week said by Gbcue  :said by grydlok :They bought Sprint Then T-Mobile shut down the aging CDMA & iDen network and has excess of 60MHz of spectrum across the country. Then you wake up.  | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Then next week said by DarnellP :said by Gbcue :said by grydlok :They bought Sprint Then T-Mobile shut down the aging CDMA & iDen network and has excess of 60MHz of spectrum across the country. Then you wake up. And then you realize
A. GSM/HSDPA doesn't run on IDEN frequencies
B. many angry people with bricked phones will defect to Verizon or ATT in a momentary fit of anger unless you give them all $150 new phone credits, even then they might be attached to their phones | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
1 edit | You don't say This "merger" only made sense to Wall Street cowboys. You know, the same crowd who thought leveraging each dollar to borrow thirty against it was a great idea!
Anyone with half a brain would have told you that 1. it didn't make a lick of technical sense and 2. it was never going to happen.
Also note the part where the T-Mo dude says Europe has 50-70 providers for 350 million people and we have, essentially, 4 for 300 million. Our particular brand of capitalism is killing A. Capitalism B. This Country C. Competition D. All of the above. It's about time we break up these monopolies we've allowed in every industry because it's hurting America. | |
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Lovin Verizon FIOS
join:2002-10-12
Flanders, NJ | Re: You don't say Amen to that! | |
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Di relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17
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| said by kapil :Europe has 50-70 providers for 350 million people and we have, essentially, 4 for 300 million. Very true and it's something, I think, worth being concerned about. Before we make too much of this stat, though, it's worth considering what it actually means. How many choices does the average European household actually have? I doubt all 50+ of these operators are available in all Eurozone countries.
Anyone have any solid data on how many major providers an average household in different European countries have access to? It might only be 4 or 5, much like here (don't forget USA's #5, US Cellular, whose coverage is limited but often strong where others are weak, as in WV).
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Golden, CO - AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, CricKet
Fredericksburg, TX - AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, CricKet, Pocket Communications, Five Star Wireless (local)
Fort Pierce, FL - AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, MetroPCS, US Cellular
Of the above non-big-four carriers, two are CDMA (CricKet, Pocket), one is GSM with a CDMA roamer network (Five Star).
A local telephone cooperative in the Fredericksburg area also intends to do something with the 1700MHz spectrum they have. What exactly, they're not sure yet.
I'm thinking that most folks have at least five cellular providers to choose from. Usually the big four plus either CricKet or MetroPCS in urban/suburban areas or a local/regional carrier in rural areas.
The thing is, CricKet (and maybe MetroPCS) run their networks so differently than the top-tier carriers that they aren't good acquisition targets except for each other. There are a double handful of small unlimited carriers out there that CricKet or MetroPCS might eventually buy up, but not if those carriers are GSM. The big four might go ahead and buy a local carrier or two, but probably not. At this point Sprint could buy US Cellular since the company finally has n EvDO Rev. A network, but that's rather unlikely... | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Don't break 'em up. Just make sure they have to be dumb pipes. When you've got 80+ million customers there are some economies of scale there. | |
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join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA | true dat.... | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Europe is a continent made up of a bunch of countries. The US is just one country. Why do the 300/350 million numbers make it an automatic apples -> apples comparison? | |
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The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Re: You don't say said by jester121 :Europe is a continent made up of a bunch of countries. The US is just one country. Why do the 300/350 million numbers make it an automatic apples -> apples comparison? Yes, of course...because we're so damn unique. God has uniquely blessed America and we don't need any of them there dang foreigners.
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Re: You don't say said by kapil :Yes, of course...because we're so damn unique. God has uniquely blessed America and we don't need any of them there dang foreigners. Wha??? | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by jester121 :Europe is a continent made up of a bunch of countries. The US is just one country. Why do the 300/350 million numbers make it an automatic apples -> apples comparison? Huh? what countries? I see no countries. | |
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Amerika | Re: Track Record Ask sidekick users. | |
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join:2009-08-31
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| Re: Track Record Because T-Mobile is the one ultimately responsible for their customers' satisfaction which is why it's T-Mobile that is going to pay compensation to those users.
Also T-Mobile was slow in advising subs as to what the problem was and how to mitigate damage including not pulling the battery from the handset.
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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1 edit | DT and TMOUSA are definitely in this for the long-haul »www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=···lG6FCO_8
Deutsche Telekom’s current focus in the U.S. is on expanding its so-called third-generation, high-speed network. The company, Europe’s largest phone company, was slow to start building its third-generation offerings in the U.S. This year, it invested $3.5 billion euros in the network.
“There is no question that we lost customers because many of our customers couldn’t get 3G.,” Hoettges said. “We now have to make sure that we can capitalize on the network in the top-10 cities where we have invested.”
The market for mobile data is booming in the U.S. and “we have to participate in that boom,” Hoettges said. It's looking more and more likely to me that TMO will be making some massive changes for 2010 on. No more sitting idly in the corner stroking themselves!
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| Re: DT and TMOUSA are definitely in this for the long-haul said by Gbcue :said by tiger72 :» www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=···lG6FCO_8Deutsche Telekom’s current focus in the U.S. is on expanding its so-called third-generation, high-speed network. The company, Europe’s largest phone company, was slow to start building its third-generation offerings in the U.S. This year, it invested $3.5 billion euros in the network.
“There is no question that we lost customers because many of our customers couldn’t get 3G.,” Hoettges said. “We now have to make sure that we can capitalize on the network in the top-10 cities where we have invested.”
The market for mobile data is booming in the U.S. and “we have to participate in that boom,” Hoettges said. It's looking more and more likely to me that TMO will be making some massive changes for 2010 on. No more sitting idly in the corner stroking themselves! Maybe T-Mobile will soon be able to advertise having the "fastest 3G network in the country"! Nah, I bet AT&T has that and "The Nations Fastest 3G Network" trademarked.
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@twtelecom.net | While that is certainly good for t-mo, the bad thing for them is that the top 3 carriers aren't exactly going to go to their respective corners and start standing pat either. | |
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Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | It sounds like he's saying they're only going to have 3G networks in 10 cities?
That's no way to catch up to Verizon/AT&T/Sprint | |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI
| Re: DT and TMOUSA are definitely in this for the long-haul said by Gbcue :said by ssj4android :It sounds like he's saying they're only going to have 3G networks in 10 cities? That's no way to catch up to Verizon/AT&T/Sprint Where do you read 10 cities? 10 cities go 3G live every week. “We now have to make sure that we can capitalize on the network in the top-10 cities where we have invested.” | |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | He simply means that they want to turn bigger profits in the biggest cities they've invested in.
as Gbcue said: NY, LA, Dallas, Chicago, SF, Miami, Philly, DC, Atlanta, Phoenix... | |
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@pldt.net | ooops!!! wow,it seems TMO's customer service is dropping to the lowest level huh... | |
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@rr.com | Re: ooops!!! said by eytin_yana :
wow,it seems TMO's customer service is dropping to the lowest level huh...
What ?? Not hardly, T-Mobile still has the best customer service by far. | |
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