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Sprint: We Could Have Nationwide LTE By 2014
And LTE Ready Devices By Mid 2012...
by Karl Bode 04:30PM Wednesday Mar 02 2011
It remains a very distinct possibility that Sprint will make the jump to LTE. Sprint issued an RFP exploring the migration to LTE, then announced a multi-billion dollar network overhaul that could easily pave the way for such a transition, and we've heard from more than one employee over the last year that Sprint absolutely will be building an LTE network despite executive smokescreens. If Sprint jumps to LTE they're expected to make the announcement within six months. Speaking this week at the Morgan Stanley investor conference, Sprint's president of network operations and wholesale Steve Elfman stated that once an LTE announcement is made, they could have nationwide service by the end of 2013:
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Speaking at a Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom conference Wednesday, Steve Elfman, Sprint's president of network operations and wholesale, said that the company will not make a decision regarding LTE deployment until mid-year. He added that if Sprint does decide to deploy LTE it could turn it on quickly and have LTE devices by 2012. Elfman added that the reason the company will not make a decision until mid-year is because Sprint wants to establish and announce a strategy that is still being determined by the company and its partner Clearwire, which runs a mobile WiMAX network.
Leaks have suggested this all ends with Clearwire closing their retail arm and becoming a wholesale operator, and Sprint acting as the retail arm of the relationship. The companies have previously stated that only about 20% of the hardware in the field for their current Mobile WiMax service would need to be swapped out to support LTE, which is what's propping up Sprint's belief they can have nationwide LTE by the end of 2013. That optimistic projection would put them right on pace with Verizon's LTE upgrades, which are also expected to be completed by the end of 2013.

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GlenQuagmire
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Betamax

Reminds me of the Betamax Vs. VHS was. Look like LTE won. If Sprint dumps WiMAX does it even have a future. Correct me if I am wrong but are WiMAX and LTE similar technologies.
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cghh

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Re: Betamax

said by GlenQuagmire:

Correct me if I am wrong but are WiMAX and LTE similar technologies.

Both use an OFDMA (Orthogonal frequency-division multiple access)air interface with the same bandwidth chunk size (20Mb)

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Re: Betamax

said by cghh:

said by GlenQuagmire:

Correct me if I am wrong but are WiMAX and LTE similar technologies.

Both use an OFDMA (Orthogonal frequency-division multiple access)air interface with the same bandwidth chunk size (20Mb)

And I remember reading that the new cell systems Sprint is installing can all be upgraded from Wimax to LTE with software changes at the tower end.

en102
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Actually - LTE is flexible from 1.5MHz to 20MHz (correct me if I'm wrong).

SHABAZZ

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Seattle, WA

Re: Betamax

You're not wrong. Both Wimax and LTE can be used at 1.5/1.4, 5.5, 10, 20 MHz channels TTD & FDD. 30 MHz TDD channels are coming soon as well.
DarnellP

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Las Vegas, NV
I don't see WiMAX being "dumped". It's not inconceivable that LTE will be run alongside, not in place of, WiMAX.

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Bob Azzi, Sprint's network senior vice president, wouldn't address the LightSquared report but said Sprint's options include any potential solution-as long as it includes the WiMax service that customers use now.

From a network perspective its WiMax and what else we do, Azzi said. In every scenario...WiMax is there.

MovieLover76

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Seems silly not to.

With nearly everyone moving towards hspa+ and lte it would be really dumb to do anything else, simply from a hardware prospective lte hardware is going to get cheaper a lot faster than wimax due to the high volume, not to mention as I think sprint is already seeing they are missing out on a lot of good phones, sprint's smartphone lineup is pretty limited.
bandit8623

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Minneapolis, MN

bah

limited, but still has the best smartphone out there. the evo

buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME

All of the Nation?

What about po-dunk places like Aroostook County Maine?
willzzz

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NY

Sprint...

Does *Sprint* EVER do network architecture planning correctly!? Failed WiMAX, now LTE...
acrowl

join:2001-08-08
California, KY

Re: Sprint...

So they decided to be first to the market with a 4G product and that is a mistake?

I seem to recall Sprint being first to market with a nationwide CDMA product. That doesn't seem to be a "fail".

They were the first carrier to offer phones with true WAP in it. I think that was pretty ingenious.

They were the first carrier to offer a coast to coast fiber network for long distance. I think that was pretty impressive for its time.

In any case, I think Sprint is not afraid to be first to market with new technology. You aren't going to hit it out of the park every time. So give them a little credit for at least recognizing the changes in the market and adjusting.

en102
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Re: Sprint...

Sprint has always been in front deploying technologies before they mature.

In many instances, it has lead to failure. From a consumer end - its great, having the newest stuff, and relatively cheap prices.
From an investor standpoint, its not always been the best.

vpoko
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I don't know, for the first time in years they've reversed their subscriber losses and I wouldn't doubt that being first-to-market with "4G" had something to do with it.

mix

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Utica, MI
You forgot the big fail, Nextel.

CaptainRR
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Re: Sprint...

If there were smart in phasing out the iDen using that spectrum to put out LTE for better coverage.

88615298
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Please

it's 2011 and you don't even have nationwide 3G.

en102
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Re: Please

The only carrier with actual 'nationwide' (meaning all of their network) on 3G would be Verizon Wireless.

CaptainRR
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Re: Please

Close, there are a few 1x area's in the network in West Virgina. Expected! But when it comes to coverage yes big red is king.
WeKnSmith

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Noblesville, IN

Re: Please

There are also some 1xRTT areas in Illinois.

dib22

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1xRTT is 3G...

AT&T and Tmo are the the only ones that still have 2G chugging along.

en102
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Re: Please

Yeah - I guess Sprint's Nextel counts as 1 or 1.5G

dib22

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Re: Please

said by en102:

Yeah - I guess Sprint's Nextel counts as 1 or 1.5G

Not even sure about that... its a proprietary/hardened form of GSM so I think its technically 2g.... maybee 2.25g? heh

88615298
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said by dib22:

1xRTT is 3G...

OK how about speeds greater than 500 kbps which 1XRtt can't do. I don't anyone seriously counts 1xRTT as 3G even if it might technically be correct.

dib22

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Re: Please

said by 88615298:

said by dib22:

1xRTT is 3G...

OK how about speeds greater than 500 kbps which 1XRtt can't do. I don't anyone seriously counts 1xRTT as 3G even if it might technically be correct.

True... 140k is about all you will ever see out of 1xRTT ... but Sprint has EVDO network wide I think.

CaptainRR
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1xRTT chugging along at a maximum download of 140k tops is not 3g. Better than nothing but far from 3g.

dib22

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Re: Please

said by CaptainRR:

1xRTT chugging along at a maximum download of 140k tops is not 3g. Better than nothing but far from 3g.

Didn't say it was fast... said it was 3G

As far as I can tell sprint have EVDO deployed on all parts of their network anyway.

Now with ATT and TMO calling 3g 4g I guess it's time to just ignore the labels.

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said by 88615298:

it's 2011 and you don't even have nationwide 3G.

What part of Sprints native network is not 3G?
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dib22

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Re: Please

said by swintec:

said by 88615298:

it's 2011 and you don't even have nationwide 3G.

What part of Sprints native network is not 3G?

Due to marketing, consumers think a networks generation is related to speed. Sprint's network is 100% 3G... in fact was 100% 3g before the US GSM providers even started thinking about building out a 3g network here.

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Re: Please

What makes 1xRTT 3G? I was under the impression this was 2G since one of the reasons is because a call can not come through when a data session is in place (goes straight to voicemail)...When 3G came out part of the specs was so a call could break the data stream and come through.
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dib22

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Re: Please

Standards.

And while sprint (and verizon who basically cloned sprints network setup) chose not to support it... cdma can actually do simultaneous voice and data.

88615298
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said by swintec:

said by 88615298:

it's 2011 and you don't even have nationwide 3G.

What part of Sprints native network is not 3G?

let me put it this way there is no sprint service in 80% of the land area of my state. The only sprint service near me is along the interstate where no one lives.

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Re: Please

said by 88615298:

said by swintec:

said by 88615298:

it's 2011 and you don't even have nationwide 3G.

What part of Sprints native network is not 3G?

let me put it this way there is no sprint service in 80% of the land area of my state. The only sprint service near me is along the interstate where no one lives.

Yea and? TN isnt nationwide. Not to mention they have 3G across the entire country....sure they do have holes but they all do.
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