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Sprint XOHM Pricing Arrives
$50 'for life' price for mobile and home use...

Sprint has finally updated their website with the pricing options for their XOHM mobile WiMax service. For service in the home, Sprint is offering an $80 modem, and charging users $25 a month for six months -- after which users will pay $35 a month. For users who want XOHM "on the go," Sprint is offering a $60 laptop card, and charging users $35 a month for six months -- after which users will pay $45 a month.

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Users who want to mix and match XOHM devices for home and mobile use will pay $65 a month for the use of both mobile and home modems. Sprint is charging customers $50 for life for this package as part of a "for life" launch promotion. For users who only need XOHM in short burts, the company is also offering service for $10 per day.

With the low price point and a lack of long term contracts, Sprint is clearly taking aim at not only mobile wireless service, but DSL connectivity as well. Speeds will be around 2-4Mbps downstream and roughly 1-2Mbps upstream, with executives saying they've seen speeds as high as 11Mbps when close to towers. So far, there's no mention of caps, though the XOHM acceptable use policy certainly leaves its options open. Sprint imposes a 5GB monthly consumption limit on their EVDO wireless broadband service.

Users so far seem relatively impressed. "Speeds are decent downstream, I usually get 4 megabit," says one XOHM beta tester in an upcoming XOHM launch market. "Upstream I usually get around a megabit depending on signal strength I'll get more. Latency usually isn't too bad at around 90 ms or less to servers in local datacenters."

While the XOHM Baltimore network has been online for several weeks, customers in Baltimore today are the first to be able to officially order the service, and hopefully a few locals can drop their impressions in our comment section below. An official Baltimore launch event is scheduled for next Wednesday. After Baltimore, Sprint will launch XOHM services in Chicago and Washington DC.
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flyingjoey
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It's alive alive alive!

It's alive alive alive!

Rates seem resonable.

25 bucks for home, 30 for on the go, or 50 for 2 modems.

Duramax08
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No Caps?

I was just on the site and looking at the terms and stuff and I saw nothing about a cap? Is This True? If it is, I cant wait till it comes to san antonio.
alexintexas
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Re: No Caps?

lol, yea right!

Amount of usage
XOHM may provide various Service plans with different characteristics, including different speeds and usage limitations. You agree to comply with these limitations. In addition, your use of the Service may not result in an excessive burden of system or network resources, may not weaken network performance, and may not restrict, inhibit, interfere with, or degrade any other user's use of the Service. To ensure a high-quality experience for its entire subscriber base, XOHM may use various tools and techniques designed to limit the bandwidth available for certain bandwidth intensive applications or protocols, such as file sharing.

»www.xohm.com/en_US/xohm- ··· use.html

Duramax08
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Re: No Caps?

and what are the speeds or plans are there and how low are the caps?
alexintexas
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Re: No Caps?

2-4/ down and 1-2 up

it shows on the site what plans prices and in the above news story on this site

the AUP gives sprint/xohm to modify everything and anything, at anytime "ie. caps, throttle, blocking, port blocking, etc" and you have no say so. without warning or notice to boot!

overall i would wait to see when there are many users on with xohm to see what limitations/caps this company will put in. which will be another no good service overall in the end

Duramax08
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Re: No Caps?

not bad on the speeds, kind of bad on where they can modify anything at anytime. I just saw a pic on the xohm site and they guy is playing a game on his laptop. Maybe this would be great for online gaming?
alexintexas
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would really depend on how far from a tower you would be and how many people are on at any given time.

only time will tell when more users get on the service

Matt3
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Upstream

The upstream isn't too bad ... $35/month for 2-4Mbps down and 1-2Mbps up. Nice.

knightmb
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Re: Upstream

said by Matt3:

The upstream isn't too bad ... $35/month for 2-4Mbps down and 1-2Mbps up. Nice.
Better than most residential on the upstream. Very nice to see at least a nearly symmetrical package being offered so one can download and upload fast.
bigddybn
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Laptop pricing

If that includes unlimited usage and an eventual widespread buildout then that's a nice deal.

kamm
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Hmmm... this sounds actually competitive...

... considering what a ripoff AT&T et al will charge you when you need it both on your phone and your laptop and considering what an utter piece of shit service you get from AT&T since iTards flooded the network (here in Downtown NYC I can't reach even 500kbit/s on my TyTn anymore.)

$50 for both is actually OK - it's twice as much as the unlimited AT&T but if it, unlike AT&T, will actually give you the promised bandwidth then it's a lot better deal, not to mention the ridiculous tethering-limitations, proxy- and other issues with AT&T's network.

powerspec88
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ditching EV-DO once its here

Once XOHM comes to Kansas City, im leaving Sprints EV-DO for this as long as i can get speeds faster than what i get with EV-DO now.
I've seen speeds in none peak times pushing 2.6Mbps.


Its only 15$ cheaper for the home service and faster speeds. Very good deal.
flyingjoey
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Re: ditching EV-DO once its here

now just imagine... if they could incorporate XOHM+EvDO Rev. A on a single card.

You roaming outside of XOHM coverage area and still be able to go online using EvDO.

Matt3
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Re: ditching EV-DO once its here

said by flyingjoey:

now just imagine... if they could incorporate XOHM+EvDO Rev. A on a single card.

You roaming outside of XOHM coverage area and still be able to go online using EvDO.
You can get WiMAX/EVDO in a laptop now, so I would imagine this is a definite possibility.
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A combo WiMAX/EVDO card is indeed coming. They are hoping to release it by the end of the year.

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My parents got their EVDO service at his house. They can't get anything else there. They are getting those speed too. Plus it is cheaper than his old dial up service (getting rid of POTS and dial up).

If Xohm expands out his way in a few years he will probably switch to that.
compuwizz
join:2001-03-05
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Re: ditching EV-DO once its here

You might already have WiMAX service with Citizens Coop. Check out the coverage map:

»www.citizens.coop/images ··· _map.JPG

Duramax08
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Im ditching dial up if it comes here.
nath12
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Has anyone heard any details for the Xohm buildout in the Kansas City market?
I live to the southeast of KC about 60 miles. We already have Sprint EVDO RevA here, but no idea when Xohm will get here.

Thanks,

Nathan

K.C.
KC

proefain
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Rates

Don't overlook that the rates go up after 6 months.

Home is really $35 a month
On the go is $45 a month
Pick 2 is $65 a month

powerspec88
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Re: Rates

said by proefain:

Don't overlook that the rates go up after 6 months.

Home is really $35 a month
On the go is $45 a month
Pick 2 is $65 a month
Its still cheap anyway you look at it

proefain
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Re: Rates

said by powerspec88:

said by proefain:

Don't overlook that the rates go up after 6 months.

Home is really $35 a month
On the go is $45 a month
Pick 2 is $65 a month
Its still cheap anyway you look at it
I wonder since there are no contracts if you could just cancel before 6 months is up and resign up at the lower rate.
jtel
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Re: Rates

The pick 2 is $50 a month is for life right now and wouldn't go up after 6 months.

The coverage is pretty poor though so the mobile portion of this may be minimal for some time especially with no roaming available.
papi4baby
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It is not cheap, it is priced just right.
tmc8080
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just point out the obvious

unless your "mobile" and traveling somewhere... a simple wifi hotspot will do nicely and much more inexpensively, possibly free!

it's also quite obvious they will provide service on their terms and not yours.. so why even bother subscribing?

let sprint choke on their own stupidity, and that goes for all wireless carriers doing broadband! this is a simple grab at preventing voip and other value services from crippling cell phone subscriptions. boycott the service until they get it right.
bigddybn
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Re: just point out the obvious

WTH are you babbling about? There are a lot of people who are "mobile" and "traveling somewhere" pretty much every single day. There are also many who are looking for choices beyond very limited incumbent offerings in their area. How is competition bad?

There should be a website that people could go to learn about their options. They could have forums and news articles about up and coming services. I think www.broadbandreports.com or something would be fitting. Oh well, it would just choke on it's own stupidity.
iansltx
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Actually sounds like they ARE getting it right.

The modem (hmm ZyXEL) actually has some phone ports on it for VoIP down the road, probably less expensive than cableco service...I'd think more in line with what T-Mobile offers. And the modem isn't that much more expensive than your typical cable modem. That's a very good thing. It's also nice that the ExpressCard (and probably soon the USB stick) will be just $60. Much less expensive than mobile broadband, especially considering there's no contract.

It's interesting that it looks like the ended up not using Alvarion network equipment...it's all Nokia\Siemens, motorola, Alcatel-Lucent.

Pricing is really good, comparable to low-tier DSL or cable, without the cable...with the only startup price being the device you're getting, as opposed to a $50+ installation fee, plus the cost of renting or buying a modem.

Hopefully some people can test it out and run the service until Sprint gets mad at them, so we know where the caps are. But having cable-speed upstream and decent downstream speeds for $35 or less per month...that's just great. If it was in my area, and the caps were good, I'd switch over.

What's interesting is that Xohm is being deployed mainly in high population areas for now, and in Baltimore you've also got VZ DSL (slightly worse deal than Xohm), Comcast cable and Believe Wireless. Though at the price Xohm is offering, Cable is much more expensive, DSL is a little slower and Believe is more expensive for a comparable connection.

In short, sounds like a winner, especially when the combo rA\WiMax card comes out and service comes to more place.
iansltx

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Re: just point out the obvious

One more thing: Xohm sounds like it'd be faster than your average hotspot, which might have a T1 going to it. I'll take 4/2 over 1.3/1.2 or so any day

kamm
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said by iansltx:

But having cable-speed upstream and
It's a LOT FASTER than your average 512k cable upstream.
decent downstream speeds for $35 or less per month...that's just great. If it was in my area, and the caps were good, I'd switch over.
I agree. The day TWCNYC enables capping and my reseller (NYCT) follows it I will drop them immediately and if there's still no FIOS then I'll go for the cheapest home broadband w/ satellite (or perhaps no premium TV at all).
iansltx
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Re: just point out the obvious

Cable upstream here is 1 or 2 Mbps. I know that it's much worse elsewhere...
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said by tmc8080:

unless your "mobile" and traveling somewhere... a simple wifi hotspot will do nicely and much more inexpensively, possibly free!
Yea, but most people don't live in a walk-up flat over a Starbucks. Maybe you do, but most don't.

ninjatutle
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Integrity, lack there of...

It really means, "until we decide to change it". Or rather, "we're desperate for customers." Sprint has been known to break peoples contract. Sprint doesn't always hold up to their end of the deal.
Automate
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Re: Integrity, lack there of...

Yes, but with no contract you can always drop the service if you don't like their new terms. I doubt they will change the terms too drastically.
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said by ninjatutle:

It really means, "until we decide to change it". Or rather, "we're desperate for customers." Sprint has been known to break peoples contract. Sprint doesn't always hold up to their end of the deal.
And what carrier has? Verizon was worse, still calling EVDO unlimited when it wasn't. Cable/DSL providers change their terms all the time too, now heading to caps as well.

WiMAX has no contract so it's not an issue. Worst case you may have to sell you WiMAX device if you don't like the service.

HEDP
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!

It's about time Sprint, now it's time to deal with capacity and coverage issues. Becoming a data carrier from a cell carrier sure is hard, but you need to start somewhere.
iansltx
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Re: !

Uh, they are alrady a data carrier, they just did terrestrial stuff.

SprintLink is one of the world's best-connected networks, though it's just running on nearly-10Gbit OC192 links.
expert007
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WiMax Backhaul Links

I wonder what the PtP backhaul links have been provisioned with in terms of BW. At what point will WiMax users begin to feel a pinch.
I wouldn't think that they would lay out all kinds of capital for 10-30Mb of backhaul right off the bat....??
xenophon
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Re: WiMax Backhaul Links

Some WiMAX testers were saying they got 11-14Mbps so they must be supplying a pretty large backhaul. Sprint is conservatively estimating 2-4Mbps when factoring shared usage. But you may be able to peak much higher if on a low used tower. WiMAX also has better latency than EVDO.

rtfm
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A little bird chirped in my ear that you have hit the chief roadblock in the whole scheme.

A Suit made quoted remarks to the effect that they had many hundreds more sites all ready to go, except for the missing backhauls.

And while ideally a site would get fed with 100Mb or better, I bet you'll find some/many initially fed with FAR less, as in copper speeds.

en102
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Until its available where I need it

It will be another technology that is useless for me.

When its available in Los Angeles at current pricing, it may be useful for me.

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Coverage map

Looking at the current coverage map for Baltimore, it looks incredibly spotty. I'd have to guess that half of the metro area is blocked from the signals. What is the frequency they are using in Baltimore and are they adding more towers?

en102
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Re: Coverage map

2.5GHz range, if I'm not mistaken.

iansltx_
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Re: Coverage map

2500 band is correct. If you look at the specs for the equipment that's the band they're using...and that's where they have a TON of spectrum. So in terms of available spectrum they won't run out of bandwidth very easily.

rtfm
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Antennas? Joint plans?

Any provision for an external antenna on the router version?

How about WiMax+EVDO accounts?
xenophon
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Re: Antennas? Joint plans?

said by rtfm:

How about WiMax+EVDO accounts?
Xohm is a separate division of Sprint with its own billing system. Sprint will essentially become an MVNO and offer WiMAX with EVDO on the Sprint billing system rather than the Xohm billing system. Sprint combined WiMAX/EVDO may come by the end of the year as that is when the first combo card is expected. The Xohm group won't sell EVDO combo devices.

rtfm
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Re: Antennas? Joint plans?

OK, it struck me as an obvious way to work around the XOHM coverage holes....

Fox McCloud
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Future Rates

I'll be more interested in their rates once Xohm starts taking off (IF it does). If we start seeing most cameras, data-cards, some PDA's, handheld gaming consoles all using XOHM, I wonder what the rates will be for "unlimited devices".

'Course, it may never come to that.

phoneboy3
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different rates for fixed and mobile???

So the whole point of mobile WiMax is you can be......mobile.....yet they are charging different rates depending on whether you want to be mobile or in the home. Wtf???

What is next? How about charging extra for people who want to use their cell phone somewhere besides the nearest cell tower to their home?

waffleburger
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Re: different rates for fixed and mobile???

said by phoneboy3 :

So the whole point of mobile WiMax is you can be......mobile.....yet they are charging different rates depending on whether you want to be mobile or in the home. Wtf???

What is next? How about charging extra for people who want to use their cell phone somewhere besides the nearest cell tower to their home?
home could be used for people that are just out of cable/dsl coverage. *sigh* i feel like everyone thinks that cable and dsl is available everywhere
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Performance results now appearing on dslreports archive

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Testing showing up to over 6Mbps.

Riverman
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Xohm Baltimore

Baltimore City does not yet have Verizon Fios service. (Some suburbs do). This made it a good time for Sprint to move in when it only has 2 main competitors (Comcast and Verizon DSL). I see an Xoam drawback - only one E-mail account is provided. Get that fixed and I think we have a winner.

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Reminder - XOHM Locations in Bmore

Just a reminder to Bmore residents.. We have two locations open as of Thursday at Arundel Mill Mall and Marley Station.. Harbor Galleria and Columiba open Monday.... Look for the lime green and black kiosks in the middle of the mall.. I'm at Arundel Mill Mall in the Food Court.. If anyone has questions please stop by or call the kiosk at 410-540-9060 or email me at XOHM1@comcast.net... I would be glad to answer any questions or stop by..