  kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | To be clear.. ...the phone will be locked starting today but can be unlocked upon request.
I'm an early adopter so it doesn't make a difference to me but it sucks that Sprint has apparently either changed its policy of selling world phones unlocked or it is treating the iPhone customers differently than those who buy other world phones.
I had a blackberry world phone before and it was great being able to keep an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM in the phone as a backup and of course being able to pick up a cheap local SIM when traveling overseas.
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 |  n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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| Re: To be clear.. said by kapil:...the phone will be locked starting today but can be unlocked upon request.
I'm an early adopter so it doesn't make a difference to me but it sucks that Sprint has apparently either changed its policy of selling world phones unlocked or it is treating the iPhone customers differently than those who buy other world phones. I too am an early adopter having received my Sprint iPhone 4S as an early Christmas gift on 10/14. I plan to use it in Canada during Thanksgiving week (U.S. Thanksgiving) with a Rogers SIM. 1) I am glad that Sprint will unlock newer phones on request, unlike AT&T and 2) I wonder what happens if your iPhone has to be swapped for a replacement. Will they lock the new one? With this latest battery snafu on the 4S, there is some indication a device swap may be needed in the future. I updated to 5.0.1 yesterday and have seen some improvement in overnight performance but from what others are reporting on the Apple forums, and from what I am seeing with some apps, there may still be a problem. Apparently Apple CS is telling some people to swap their phone at an Apple store. That is all fine an good unless you wind up with a locked device in return.
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| NWOhio
join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH | CellCo is the same way with the BBStorm2. Its a world phone but locks the SIM slot. | |
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| | The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone All iPhones are unlocked at birth.
Apple has the lock/unlock status in a database and when you activate it checks the server and either locks or unlocks your phone. I believe it also checks via iTunes periodically.
Pre 11/11/11 users probably won't escape since all Sprint has to do is flip the switch and the next time they sync to iTunes or restore it could lock their phones. | |
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| | | Re: The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone It can always be hacked. | |
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| |  RickNYPremium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
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| Re: The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone Theres no need for it... Sprint will unlock it on request! I do not believe this policy is any different than any of their previous "world" phones.. It was locked by default, but a simple call to Sprint and they would unlock it for you. | |
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| | | | iPhone dev team has been saying this for a year and a half now. The last hole was plugged up after baseband 1.59.00.
It can't always be hacked. Sometimes Apple wins.
However, Gevey was a solution for many. Problem is that to use Gevey you had to do something illegal - dial 112 and hang up.
This is why I own a factory unlocked phone and will always own a fully unlocked phone. No carrier can take their ball and go home. I own my device and I go to whichever GSM carrier I want. | |
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| | | | | Re: The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone said by fifty nine:iPhone dev team has been saying this for a year and a half now. The last hole was plugged up after baseband 1.59.00. It can't always be hacked. Sometimes Apple wins. However, Gevey was a solution for many. Problem is that to use Gevey you had to do something illegal - dial 112 and hang up. This is why I own a factory unlocked phone and will always own a fully unlocked phone. No carrier can take their ball and go home. I own my device and I go to whichever GSM carrier I want. Jail breaking phone is legal. | |
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| | | | | | Re: The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone said by silentlooker:said by fifty nine:iPhone dev team has been saying this for a year and a half now. The last hole was plugged up after baseband 1.59.00. It can't always be hacked. Sometimes Apple wins. However, Gevey was a solution for many. Problem is that to use Gevey you had to do something illegal - dial 112 and hang up. This is why I own a factory unlocked phone and will always own a fully unlocked phone. No carrier can take their ball and go home. I own my device and I go to whichever GSM carrier I want. Jail breaking phone is legal. It's not about the legality. I am aware that it is legal.
I never said that jailbreaking is illegal.
What is illegal is calling emergency services and hanging up which is what you had to do to get gevey to work.
It is whether it is actually possible. There are no currently known holes in the baseband firmware that would allow an unlock. This is true for both the old (infineon) and new (qualcomm) basebands. | |
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| | | | | iOS 5 stock baseband closed the gevey hole. North american iphones dialing 112 don't do anything anymore | |
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| | | | | | Re: The locking/unlocking process is different on iPhone said by tdumaine:iOS 5 stock baseband closed the gevey hole. North american iphones dialing 112 don't do anything anymore
If that is the case then it is a violation of the GSM standard. All GSM phones are supposed to dial emergency services when you dial 112. AT&T even wrote about this in the newsletter they send to customers a few months ago. | |
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navyson
join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | Another carrrier Will Verizon unlock my Motorola Droid Bionic?
It has a SIM card so does that mean I can use it on GSM networks overseas by just buying a local SIM card? | |
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|  60127178K.U. Sweet 16Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
kudos:1 | Re: Another carrrier The Droid Bionic is NOT a GSM phone. The sim card is for VZW LTE. | |
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| | Just show.. that you can't believe the advertising; they imply unlocked then turn around and lock it.
The phone locking in the U.S. is such a scam. | |
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| | Sprint and Sim cards? I thought only GSM networks supported SIM cards. Isn't Sprint CDMA or is the Iphone capable of working on CDMA AND GSM? | |
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| dplantz
join:2000-08-02
Roslindale, MA | Re: Sprint and Sim cards? The iPhone 4S is a dual CDMA/GSM phone. Has a multiband chipset. One of the first phones to offer this. | |
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| | IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | Re: Sprint and Sim cards? About 3 years after the HTC TouchPro 2. Which was sold by Sprint UNLOCKED! | |
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| | | | | Re: Sprint and Sim cards? I got my sprint iphone 4 s pre 11/11/11, today i connected the Iphone to itune and here we go...its locked.
what to do now, sue Sprint. if there memo states pre 11-11-11 are not affected.
Please advice!! | |
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