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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Some will see this as greed; but .... Well... somewhat.
Costs may not be rising, however, the initial startup pricing (i.e. get as many customers signed up as possible) are somewhat gone, and they have to make a profit.
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join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
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| Re: Some will see this as greed; but .... said by Network Guy  :said by TKJunkMail :Once they have switched, it is well known that people have a general resistance to change. Customers switch to get bundle discounts. I don't think anyone these days get attached to their service. I'm the exception. I could easily go to comcast however my dsl has been 100% stable and i get higher upload and no caps on my VZ dsl..:) | |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| said by Network Guy :said by TKJunkMail :Once they have switched, it is well known that people have a general resistance to change. Customers switch to get bundle discounts. I don't think anyone these days get attached to their service. Correct. Big Cable does the same thing. Want HSI by itself, pay extra. The only dif is, you don't get a discount if you just want cable by itself. But you do get the discount if you want HSI. Though the business model has been around for years, just think if every provider of every multi level service did the same thing. Don't know why people are upset or complaining.. everyone does it. My message to them is, you wanted FIOS, you got FIOS. Pay up or shut up (or switch to someone else)..  | |
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| PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| "greed", i.e., making as much money as possible, is why for-profit corporations exist. The concept of "serving the public first" is long-dead in the telcos, Verizon especially. It's one that's impossible to keep in a deregulated, competitive environment by a publicly-traded corporation. 'makes sense that they would eventually adopt the same sort of price structure as the cable companies (which was the whole point of FIOS in the first place). | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| Re: Of course it's greed ... said by PDXPLT :...The concept of "serving the public first" is long-dead in the telcos, Verizon especially... When did they serve the public first? | |
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ATHF
join:2004-12-20
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| optimum online to slow for the price if u play around cablevision/optimum online u can get there 30/5 for $45 ($29.95) + ($15 for Boost) with no contract
WTF is verizon doing
there doing DSL pricing thingy make fios look superior by making it expensive.
how did that work for there dsl ?
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ablack6596
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY | Re: optimum online They didn't raise the prices in areas where OOL is actually available. | |
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oolguy
@optonline.net
| Re: optimum online said by ablack6596 :They didn't raise the prices in areas where OOL is actually available. They did for me. Verizon is charging $45/month for 10/2 while I'm paying the same for 15/2 from OOL. Makes no sense. Maybe they are really testing the this "fiber" marketing word. | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| it's started wow, they didn't even wait until it was more widespread. I agree for broadband, this is just to get to parity with cableco pricing.
with regard to FIOS TV, customers can also likely look forward to the 5-10% increases the cablecos anoint us with every year.
after all, the market is at best a duopoly in over 90% of the U.s.; I expect to see the telcos and cablecos settle into a comfortable pattern (for them) of lockstep yearly increases. | |
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: it's started If the cable co's are getting hit with these increases and the satellite providers are getting hit with these increases, how pray tell is verizon not supposed to get hit with them as well ?
Across the board stuff is getting more expensive that is life. Fios is still the cheaper option for a lot in the areas they service.
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| Tier's don't seem well balanced For several markets, the tiers are now 10Mbps/2Mbps, 20Mbps/5Mbps and 50Mbps/5Mbps.
Wow what's the point in going to 50/5 unless your powering a house full of users (home shared by college kids or something similar). Really they should of put a little bump between 20/5 and 50/5 in the upstream.
Should of been more like:
10/2
20/5
50/10
That extra upload might be incentive enough for users to go for the top tier. | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL | Re: Tier's don't seem well balanced I agree and/or some sort of symmetrical deal, like 10/10, 20/20 etc. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Re: Tier's don't seem well balanced They won't offer symmetrical because BPON has four times more bandwidth in one direction (that doesn't even count the RF overlay) than the other. | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA | Wheres the outrage? When Comcast did this people were ready to hit the streets, pitchfork in hand.
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| Tim2
Premium
join:2006-06-19 | Re: Wheres the outrage? Yeah, really. Does everybody remember how competition was going to lower prices all around?
Now this thread comes along, and the reaction seems to be, "Of course Verizon has to make a profit." | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Price flexibility... Unfortunately I have some BAD news for you the customer..
there are extreme negatives when it comes to bundling with Verizon.
1. POTS taxes, fees, and surcharges that really *BOOST* your phone charges really high, kaching...
2. Video franchise fees and high set-top rental fees which are among the highest in the (cable) industry.
So, DEMAND a discount beyond $5 per month if you bundle two services... without getting locked into a contract. If Verizon's biggest competitor can do this (Cablevision), so can Verizon. Don't let a phone company nickel and dime ($5, $10) you to death... or the poorhouse.
It's also time for Verizon to DROP 5/2 as an entry level FIOS.. entry level should start at 15/2 (weakest markets), 20/5 (metro and docsis 2 enabled cable competitors), and should rise to 30/5 sometime next year.. before Verizon can even think about a rate increase. | |
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | ummm upload? 20/5, 50/5? lol thats just sad..espically the 50/5 verizon really putting the stop on the upload damn. | |
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BryanOnRR
join:2007-06-22
Brandon, FL | Re: ummm upload? Don't forget also their is compression on the upload. | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
|  Re: ummm upload?
said by BryanOnRR :Don't forget also their is compression on the upload. What do you mean? Is this good or bad? I thought compression applied to the whole deal. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Still a good deal "A user in Florida notes that the standalone cost of 10Mbps/2Mbps service has jumped from $39.99 to $44.99, while the standalone cost of 20Mbps/5Mbps service has jumped from $49.99 to $54.99. "
Charter charges $69.99 for 10Mbps/1Mbps if you bundle $79.99 if you don't.
at&t doesn't even have anything higher than 6 Mbps/512Kbps and that's $42.95 and of course you HAVE to have a POTS line | |
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| tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Re: Still a good deal said by BF69 :"A user in Florida notes that the standalone cost of 10Mbps/2Mbps service has jumped from $39.99 to $44.99, while the standalone cost of 20Mbps/5Mbps service has jumped from $49.99 to $54.99. " Charter charges $69.99 for 10Mbps/1Mbps if you bundle $79.99 if you don't. at&t doesn't even have anything higher than 6 Mbps/512Kbps and that's $42.95 and of course you HAVE to have a POTS line Charter, AT&T... non-competitive markets.. Why is it that cable companies think they can RAPE customers in markets where FIOS is available at a better price?
or is there no FIOS OVERLAP in these AT&T/CHARTER broadband regions?
BTW, nothing in LAW states that you *MUST* have a POTS line to get DSL *OR THAT CRAPPY U-VERSE PROJECT, COMPLETE WITH EXPLODING VRAD BATTERIES*, this is simply company policy, whether they really want to sell it to you is whole *OTHER* story.. and personally if they gave me an ATTITUDE about POTS line.. I'd get my STRONGLY WORDED LETTER TO THE FCC AND FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION, as well as STATE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSIONS.. WELL UNDER-WAY.. | |
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66466388
join:2006-11-22 | logically cool,
so they lay fiber,
chop down your copper,
then raise the prices
duh! | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
| Re: logically said by 66466388 :cool, so they lay fiber, chop down your copper, then raise the prices duh! It was their copper not ours. | |
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wkearney99
@wkearney.com | Re: logically This is WRONG. It's not their copper. It's yours. Read up on the regulations that allow them to string that copper, and the funding that paid for it. Verizon is a bunch of lying bastards. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | *Penalty Pricing* Just more evidence to show it's not a bundling discount it's a PENALTY for trying to stay with competitors. | |
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@verizon.net | Re: *Penalty Pricing* This is bullshit. My rate goes up but my bandwidth stays the same. I'm switching to Comcast. | |
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Standalone FiOS Price Hike
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Some will see this as greed; but ....
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to OOL Comcast or whomever.I bet cha get a better deal.
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