  VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Good to hear but it took them nearly 2 years to get a "great experience" making simple phone calls for the iPhone without being dropped every other time.
Love the iPhone and happy that reception has improved dramatically the last few months but I don't hold out any hope that any major release by AT&T will go smoothly. | |
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|  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| Re: Lets go at&t... said by djdanska:Thankfully, i can tether with my tmo branded touch pro2 right out of the box. Download one free app and i can even tether via wifi. Hopefully at&t gets this right. (And no extra charge! I don't pay extra. Just my $25 data plan. And i get 1200/400 24/7. A bit far behind! I would bet my life that there is ZERO chance it will be free. It is AT&T after all.
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| iansltx
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kudos:2 | Which app? I have WMWiFiRouter, but it costs me money. | |
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1 edit | Re: Lets go at&t... said by iansltx:Which app? I have WMWiFiRouter, but it costs me money. CM Internet share i think. I have the cab file. I have the touch pro2. Not sure if it will work on smartphones. (vs. pocket pc).
edit: It's here.
»forum.xda-developers.com/showthr···t=538874
Free and works fine for me.
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join:2007-02-19
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kudos:2 | Re: Lets go at&t... Cool. I have the original Touch Pro (Sprint) so it'll definitely work for me, though at this point I don't need it and might be going Android on my next phone. | |
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join:2005-03-19
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| Re: Lets go at&t... said by iansltx:Cool. I have the original Touch Pro (Sprint) so it'll definitely work for me, though at this point I don't need it and might be going Android on my next phone. you won't regret it! android is great! | |
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join:2007-02-19
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kudos:2 | Re: Lets go at&t... Does the new Samsung Android phone coming out for Sprint have WiFi, and does it have a WiFi tethering app? If so, count me in. | |
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| FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19
1 edit | the "fine tuning" that they refer to is metered billing... | |
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| | innoman-Premium
join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | Re: Lets go at&t... HAHA, I hate the 'Like This' function in facebook but I could totally use it for your post! | |
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|  joakoPremium
join:2000-09-07
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kudos:5 | When I had my unbranded Nokia E71 you just connect the phone to the PC, select "Connect PC to Web" and it autoruns the software installer.
Tethering worked great even with $15 "MEdia Net" plan!
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join:2007-02-20
Old Bridge, NJ Reviews:
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| Just Imagine Imagine how much better their network would be if instead of spending millions on iPhone exclusivity, they actually upgraded their core network that much more.
At that point the "Nations Fastest 3G Network" would be flexible enough to handle iPhone tethering and there would be no degrading the competition fine tuning needed. | |
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join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | Re: Just Imagine I have seen comments on this video but never watched it.... I can't believe the last portion actually refers to AT&T as the #2 wireless company... wow, love that. | |
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| | FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | thats funny and I don't even like vzw LOL | |
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| | | | I wouldn't be suprised if they don't get sued over that map. Its actually out of date, and I can tell because close to my area isn't highlighted in blue on the At&t 3G coverage. It might be because it just got activated a few months ago. I know State College PA has 3G and so does Altoona Pa, and Erie Pa. The map shown doesn't show any of that highlighted in blue in the commercial.
Aside from that I'm quite happy with my PDA net so I could care less when official tethering support is launched. You know that there going to charge for tether support and I find it ridiculous to pay even more for it. | |
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Wondering I am really starting to wonder if all of the problems being reported with the iPhone are simply with the iPhone itself and not AT&T. Most people I know who have AT&T wireless, including myself, and who do not have iPhones seem to be doing just fine.
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Re: Wondering said by djrobx:Nope, the iPhone itself works fine. If you're in an area where AT&T works well, the iPhone will, too. When iPhone 3G came out, there were lots of complaints about dropped calls. I had the exact same problems people were reporting ... with my Samsung Blackjack. The temporary solution was the same for both - put them in EDGE mode. AT&T has since improved their network now both work much better. And to give this topic some relevance to the article, Apple's tethering feature works great. iPhone MMS has also worked great since version 3.0. For whatever reason AT&T is dragging their feet with respect to these features. Agreed. It has worked since we enabled it a few months ago. This is another cluster on AT&T'sd point.
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Oakland, CA
1 edit | said by pnh102:I am really starting to wonder if all of the problems being reported with the iPhone are simply with the iPhone itself and not AT&T. Most people I know who have AT&T wireless, including myself, and who do not have iPhones seem to be doing just fine. I also haven't had any problems with my iphone or ATT. For whatever reason, I get poor 3g coverage while inside my house unless I'm near a window. I do get great edge coverage inside though, and 3g is also great in my area once I leave my house.
It must be the walls or something inside interfering with the signal. Which is still better than Tmobile which has no signal inside my building. Other than that, I've had verizon and sprint in the past and all have had about the same service.
That commercial above makes it look like verizon is the king, but unfortunately during my time with verzion, their service just didn't shine so much that I would jump back without a heartbeat.
I'm definitely waiting for tethering. For now, it works great on a jailbroken iphone. | |
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| | VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Re: Wondering I had the same problem when I lived in Chicago...downtown Chicago mind you where you would think I get the strongest signal possible.
I have since moved to DC and found my reception.....unbelievably reliable.
I think it just depends on the area | |
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| duranr
join:2006-10-14
Leonia, NJ | The iPhone is at&t's whipping boy. The scapegoat they're using for their lack of upgrades to their network over the years that they neglected to do.
I agree with the scenario the commenter above pointed out, I'm one of the lucky ones who live in an area of NJ where At&t's coverage is very good and I haven't experienced any problems with my iPhone 3G other than the occasional dropped call. | |
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|  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by pnh102:I am really starting to wonder if all of the problems being reported with the iPhone are simply with the iPhone itself and not AT&T. Most people I know who have AT&T wireless, including myself, and who do not have iPhones seem to be doing just fine. I thought this might be the case, but my daughter has an LG Shine and I have a cheapie (LG also I believe) 3G flip-phone I bought off eBay that have the same problems. I've started noticing a pattern in my area. I have a better signal and much better service during off-peak hours and on weekends. I think it's just an AT&T capacity issue.
I'll counter your theory with one of my own; the people who notice the problems (including the iPhone users) simply use their phones more. My service works perfectly fine when I only make/receive one or two calls a day. But the minute I start upping my usage with multiple calls and other data usage, I experience problems.
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join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Hey Matt, just a thought about your issue with service in the evening...
WCDMA (AT&T 3G) uses something referred to as Cell Breathing to handle capacity and interference as well as avoid saturation. Basically, as more cells are active on a Node B (individual cell tower), the coverage area of that Node B shrinks as power is decreased to avoid saturation. Also, while voice and wcdma (non-HSPA) data is handled on a dedicated traffic channel between the mobile and network, HSDPA/HSUPA is carried over shared channels.
There is a whole lot more to it than that and my explanation is a little vague because it's been a while since I have had to recall that type of information....
Also for your statement that you notice more issues when you up your usage most likely just relates to the fact that the more you use something, the better chance you are to find the issues that exist. I absolutely agree with your statement about how iPhone users simply use their phones more than others. | |
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| innoman-Premium
join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Uh, no! That is a pretty ridiculous assumption since it has been very well reported that AT&T is the reason MMS and Tethering were not available months ago. iPhone on nearly every other network in the world is doing great! I have been using tethering and MMS on my iPhone for several months now, I just can't flash to 3.1+ because I will lose the ability since AT&T is dragging it's feet. It is something they could very easily do without any real change in the network except the upgrades that should have been done long before. Tethering is possible with most phones on the AT&T network, there is no reason it should not be available on the iPhone.
It's typical AT&T! I have U-Verse and love it to be honest; however, they should be running fiber to my home already. They don't want to spend the money to get their networks into the next generation.
PS... Why don't you try an iPhone out... I guarantee you that you will see things differently. You will wonder how you were ever "doing just fine" without one. (and by try one out, I mean more than just play with a friends for 2 minutes) | |
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Re: Wondering I believe Matt had an iPhone, could be mistaken though. | |
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join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: Wondering If he did, he should already understand where the issue lies... I chose not to buy an iPhone pre-MMS and pre-3G capable because I knew I wanted those features to be supported by my phone. Others were willing to do without them. Now that they are supported by the phone, the network needs to support them. If they can support the feature for a BlackBerry or even a Sony Ericsson W760a, they should be supported for an iPhone.
btw, those earlier comments were actually meant for pnh102, not Matt... | |
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| innoman-Premium
join:2002-05-07
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | Re: Meanwhile .... Gotta love AT&T... It's absurd that make their largest single smartphone user group do without. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | There are other phones out there that are "tether capable" and aren't allowed to tether.. but since it's the all mighty iPhone, it's like people believe it should be mandated by congress. Carriers COMMONLY cripple functions on phones they don't want to use.. it's not illegal.
Just because the iphone can handle it doesn't mean ATT should be forced to..
.. and I'm an iPhone user.. | |
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| Fine Tune Billing Systems They didn't state which system needed fine tuning. Knowing that the BENM hack worked so simply, it most likely has nothing to do with the customer's great experience. They want to ensure they don't miss out on the revenue that this will generate. Can't wait to give them a little more cash out of my checking account each month. | |
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | What is there to fine tune? Every other country/carrier got tethering that "just worked" the same day that OS 3.0 dropped. I've been tethering my iPhone (my Canadian carrier, Fido, supports it).
What exactly does AT&T need to "fine tune" that every other carrier in the world didn't need to? | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: What is there to fine tune? said by Guspaz:Every other country/carrier got tethering that "just worked" the same day that OS 3.0 dropped. I've been tethering my iPhone (my Canadian carrier, Fido, supports it). What exactly does AT&T need to "fine tune" that every other carrier in the world didn't need to? You DO realize that just because a phone can "support" something that the carrier is not obligated to offer it, right? This goes WELL beyond the cell phone. Cable boxes have ports on them that, while they are installed, they are not functional. Vehicles even have the ABILITY to have certain features, but are not activated on them by the manufacture based on the model designation of the car itself.
So why is the iPhone different?
Great.. other carriers, with 3.0, CHOSE to allow tethering.. att, and to be honest, several others, did not chose to follow... So, while the editing feature is still available to you, it may be a good idea to edit your post for corrections as not ALL carriers offer it yet.
Who knows exactly WHY att isn't ready yet.. and who knows exactly WHAT they are "fine tuning".. the fact is very simple - it's not available on the iPhone offered through att.
For what ever reason att isn't ready yet.. it very well may be that they are going to charge for it, I don't doubt it and I could care less (I have a broadband card like others should)... it could be they are "fine tuning" their PR push.. JUST because they are asked about something doesn't mean they are ready with an answer.. they're not required to.. however, because of slam-media, they had to say something most likely and this was the answer.
Putting pressure on them is perfectly fine.. it's how you make your voice heard, but, don't be surprised when the answer you get isn't the one you really wanted to get or hear.. it very well can simply be "no".. I believe that too many people think just because they want something, or ask for something, or put pressure on a company to get something, that they are entitled to not only have it, but to have it the way they want it as well. | |
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| | | | Re: What is there to fine tune? Thanks for your thoughts Mr. de la Vega. | |
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join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: What is there to fine tune? said by gworkman7:Thanks for your thoughts Mr. de la Vega. Sorry if you can't handle the truth, reality.. and feel you need to insult someone that doesn't agree with your point of view..
I didn't realize this site was called "we come here to bitch about everything.com".... grow a pair and deal with it.. not everyone on this site feels like you.. they're just usually quieter so asshats don't pull what you just did.
However, for what you just did, I'm sure there is a position for you at WalMart as a greeter. | |
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Maybe ALL US cell carriers just SUCK, and we all just need to get used to it? | |
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