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South Williamson, KY | put down the DVD and come with me if you want to live! I can see it now.. "We will 'Terminate' you and your connection!" because im The terminator Governor of California! | |
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 |  Chris 313Come get somePremium
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| Re: put down the DVD and come with me if you want to live! said by zipjay:I can see it now.. "We will 'Terminate' you and your connection!" because im The terminator Governor of California! Ha! I was waiting for someone to make a Terminator reference. Sadly, I could see that happening if he's put in. Only then, it'd be funny too. | |
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said by Chris 313:Ha! I was waiting for someone to make a Terminator reference. Sadly, I could see that happening if he's put in. Only then, it'd be funny too. I wonder if he will be giving the offenders an option of GETTING TO THE CHOPPA instead of terminating them.
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| Hell, if he does to the MPAA what he's done to California, everyone will be downloading Blu Ray copies of the latest summer blockbuster 2 weeks before it's released, with impunity.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: put down the DVD and come with me if you want to live! said by N3OGH:Hell, if he does to the MPAA what he's done to California, everyone will be downloading Blu Ray copies of the latest summer blockbuster 2 weeks before it's released, with impunity. and yet the industry will still see huge profits from video sales, while complaining about piracy.
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Canada | I'll be baaaack! | |
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1.never buy another new movie from a hollywood studio
2.if i need movie buy it local in my town and used.that helps out the local economy and does nothing for the greedy studios
3.never buy any music from any lable/band who signs with RIAA or similar organization.
4.support indie small label music and buy local music from local musicians in my town.
Fuck You MPAA & RIAA you lost me as a paying customer. | |
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CWCville USA | Re: put down the DVD and come with me if you want to live! Damn straight! I'll drink to that! | |
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| I know this sounds crazy But has their ever been talk of releasing movies over iTunes or some movie service for a high amount of money on or around the release date of the film?
I would think (and maybe I am wrong) that many people would be willing to fork over a solid amount of money if they could download a film the day it is released even if it meant a few more $$$'s than going to a theatre | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: I know this sounds crazy but that is innovation and the entertainment industry wont have any of that.
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| Re: I know this sounds crazy That's only if they're going to broadcast a movie before it comes out on DVD.
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| said by Kearnstd:but that is innovation and the entertainment industry wont have any of that. But it's not just the entertainment industry itself at stake here.
Imagine what would happen if it were to come to pass that films were released on iTunes the day they were out in theatres (or say within a week of theatre release?)
The movie theatre business would be decimated to the point where you would end up with maybe one theatre chain left in the entire US and sporadic locations at best. (This is already happening in Canada, one major chain left under which several different "brands" operate and AMC)
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Carleton, MI | Re: I know this sounds crazy That means theaters would also have to adapt. Personally, I think that theaters have really let themselves slide the past decade. They're all about turnaround and soaking you for amenities at the location. People go to a theater for the experience as well as the movie. Most people have setups in their homes that are perfectly adequate to have a high resolution and great sounding viewing experience (and the ability to pause, cheap food, etc).
Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint. | |
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| | | | | | Re: I know this sounds crazysaid by sirwoogie:Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint. Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else.
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| Re: I know this sounds crazy said by Pirate515:said by sirwoogie:Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint. Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else. The thing is, that's a fight between the studios and the theatre chains, not the consumer. That battle should be fought some other way instead of overcharging the customer.
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| | | | | | | said by Pirate515:Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else. That is true. ALL of the money from the tickets go back to the studios and to the people that book the movies at the theater. The entire operating budget for the theater locations comes from that concession stand. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: I know this sounds crazy — THE $9 TICKET BREAKDOWN —
Theater receives: $4.05
Helps pay for everything from maintaining the popcorn machines to air conditioning to ticket takers' salaries
Studio receives: $4.95
This amount is broken down into sub-categories:
* ADVERTISING and MARKETING: $1.90
Nearly 75% of Public Enemies' estimated $100 million marketing budget goes to TV, radio, magazine, Internet, newspaper, and billboard ads. The rest covers expenses like market research and preview trailers.
* PRODUCTION: $1.54
Includes the cost of sets, costumes, equipment rentals, filming permits, insurance, and such.
* DISTRIBUTION: $0.90
Ten percent of every ticket goes directly to Universal Studios to cover costs such as sending movie reels to theaters.
* ACTORS: $0.61
A-list star Johnny Depp's upfront pay for Public Enemies was an estimated $20 million; co-star Christian Bale probably got more than $10 million. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: I know this sounds crazy said by AlexNYC:— THE $9 TICKET BREAKDOWN — Theater receives: $4.05 Helps pay for everything from maintaining the popcorn machines to air conditioning to ticket takers' salaries Studio receives: $4.95 This amount is broken down into sub-categories: * ADVERTISING and MARKETING: $1.90 Nearly 75% of Public Enemies' estimated $100 million marketing budget goes to TV, radio, magazine, Internet, newspaper, and billboard ads. The rest covers expenses like market research and preview trailers. * PRODUCTION: $1.54 Includes the cost of sets, costumes, equipment rentals, filming permits, insurance, and such. * DISTRIBUTION: $0.90 Ten percent of every ticket goes directly to Universal Studios to cover costs such as sending movie reels to theaters. * ACTORS: $0.61 A-list star Johnny Depp's upfront pay for Public Enemies was an estimated $20 million; co-star Christian Bale probably got more than $10 million. That counts for a $9 ticket. Then there are $15 tickets and I'm not talking IMAX (Anyone who's been to the 3rd Street Promenade in Los Angeles or any other Pacific Theaters knows what I mean). | |
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Midlothian, VA | MMM no its a sliding scale on seat receipts.
Example:
The first 2 weeks the bulk goes to studio say 90/10 split then it begins to swap as time goes on. | |
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when it comes to these big time movies, i just don't feel pity for the movie makers and such when their budget is covered in days (or maybe weeks for some) from releasing the movie and then they still charge a crap load of money when it comes out on dvd. don't they have enough money already? in general, i don't have any pity for the entertainment industry(movies, music, sports, tv shows) when they complain about something and despise any anti-consumer action they do. | |
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4 edits | Watching a movie like Avitar on an iTouch ya..right. I wouldn't pay ten cents for this pleasure.
Why is anyone suprised by this crap from the MPAA and the studios. This business has been filled with a bunch of cut throat crooks from it's very beginnings when it started in New York City a 100 years ago. The reason why some of these early production companies moved to the then gated community of Hollywood Land was to put 2300 miles between themselves and the mafia like studios in New York which often sent thugs around to these "independent" studios to browbeat and physically assult their employees with beatings and shootings. There where several studios that were burnt to the ground with arson fires. Incidently the actors working at these studios where then called Movies because they where always on the move between studios in New York and Southern California, this is where the term "Movie" came from it has nothing to do with moving pictures. Study their history and you will not be suprised at anything the movie industry does. | |
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| Re: I know this sounds crazy said by Transmaster:Watching a movie like Avitar on an iTouch ya..right. I wouldn't pay ten cents for this pleasure. Why is anyone suprised by this crap from the MPAA and the studios. This business has been filled with a bunch of cut throat crooks from it's very beginnings when it started in New York City a 100 years ago. The reason why some of these early production companies moved to the then gated community of Hollywood Land was to put 2300 miles between themselves and the mafia like studios in New York which often sent thugs around to these "independent" studios to browbeat and physically assult their employees with beatings and shootings. There where several studios that were burnt to the ground with arson fires. Incidently the actors working at these studios where then called Movies because they where always on the move between studios in New York and Southern California, this is where the term "Movie" came from it has nothing to do with moving pictures. Study their history and you will not be suprised at anything the movie industry does. Citation needed greatly.
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4 edits | Re: I know this sounds crazy = Gbcue  Citation needed greatly. 
It is fascinating!
The Movie cartel in New York which was trying to drive these independents out of business sent one of their thugs out to Hollywood Land to strong arm one of these studios he flashed a revolver at the director during the making of a Western during filming, he did not realize the Cowboys on the set where the real thing and where armed themselves, he found himself with a bunch of rifles and pistols pointed at him, this incident was even incorporated into this Western. 
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Gaithersburg, MD | Also read An Empire Of Their Own by Neal Gabler. It's one of the best books I've ever read about the history of the film industry.
Ironically, though, back at the beginning, it wasn't the studios so much as the Edison Trust that created most of the issues:
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: I know this sounds crazy Exactly the Edison Trust was the cartel in New York that used the strong arm tactics. A group of largest studios got to gather under the Edison banner and decided to force everyone else out. If you Study Thomas Edison he was not a nice guy he ripped so many people out of patients and ideas.
I am still looking for the BBC program It is somewhere on 5 gigs worth of hard drives. I can't remember the exact name of the series so none of my searches have found it, grrrr I want to watch it again myself.
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Stop introducing modern and potentially profitable ideas into their old school way of thinking. You'll confuse them! | |
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| | Now I want to share a movie just so Arnold will send me a le Now I want to share a movie just so Arnold will send me a letter! I wonder if he could include a signed photo? | |
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| Sure... @MPAA
Whatever, make yourselves even less relevant... so instead of evolving, opting for blanket licensing or making it easier for consumers to access your content we get more of the same.
Consumers will move in one of the two following directions:
1) Get truly free content, like stuff on Miro, Jamendo and 100s of like services.
(my preferred option)
2) Piracy evolves, with better anonymity, which will make it impossible for you to casually snoop on traffic, leading us back to how it was a couple of years ago.
(most likely scenario)
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Baton Rouge, LA | Dumb move Has the MPAA learned nothing from the humongous debacle that is the RIAA campaign? Suing the customers doesn't work for the RIAA and it won't work for the MPAA - in fact, it won't work period.
I just don't understand the mentality at all. Why not get feedback from those that truly know - the consumer? Take that feedback and come up with some compelling business models and sell it to us at a reasonable price without restrictions and I guarantee that money would be made hand over fist beyond the wildest of expectations.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Dumb move the biggest thing is making big ink about going after pirates, they in short have given dozens of websites and methods for committing the act free advertising while harming their image and making The Pirate Bay look like Robin Hood.
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New Orleans, LA | Because they couldn't care less what the consumer thinks as long as they are making $$$$$$ | |
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Palm Desert, CA | said by deadzoned:Has the MPAA learned nothing from the humongous debacle that is the RIAA campaign? I just don't understand the mentality at all. Why not get feedback from those that truly know - the consumer? Take that feedback and come up with some compelling business models and sell it to us at a reasonable price without restrictions and I guarantee that money would be made hand over fist beyond the wildest of expectations. Along with this idea, add taking off all that Crap, let's get right to the Main Menu or Movie. If we want to look at Previews give us that option on the Menu. Some Studios put so much Anti-Piracy software on DVD's and Blu-rays that they don't play right or not at all. You pay good money for a BD, you should be able to enjoy the Movie! | |
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canada | MPAA Look at your own people Who has access to the screeners that magically appear for download?
Want to stop piracy? Start with your own people in the industry you A**HOLES! | |
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| | Screw 5$ pop and 4$ popcorn in Canada they are charging upwards of 17$ for a combo pop and popcorn and no its not the size of south dakota, that was for the following
on welfare i finished top in interview skills course , got this 10$ movie card for it. So went to see aliens vs predator....on cheap tuesday thinking ok 10$ on card 4$ for movie so ill at least be able to get a pop OR popcorn...
1st off they ruipped me off at teh gate telling me that the cheap tuesday dont apply aka took all ten for the movie
and id not been able to afford pop OR popcorn as they weren't selling separate and togaether was 16.07
"A savings of 1$ off regular"
MY GOD I wanted to start a underground pop and popcorn rail road to free the POP
YOU MPAA ARE SICK DRUG induced malcontents and the faster you make it worse then murder the quicker we all can see how insane you are. | |
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Cedar Rapids, IA | ... Are they proposing Schwarzenegger would serve as an MPAA exec while still governor of California? Seems like a potential conflict of interest there. | |
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Manitowoc, WI | more chaos... Just what we need, how about smartening up instead. | |
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