In a bit of news that likely won't be received well by the electromagnetically sensitive, a new study has found that one in ten cell sites don't adhere to FCC rules regarding excessive radio-frequency (RF) radiation. That finding comes from a report in the Wall Street Journal, which quotes six engineers who conducted surveys on 5,000 towers for municipalities and carriers.
The report notes the problems have arisen as the industry pushes to deploy towers and many localities work to make towers less ugly -- sometimes at the cost of non-aesthetically pleasing safety precautions. What's more, the report indicates that the FCC has issued just two citations to cell companies for violating these rules since they were adopted in 1996:
quote:“It’s like having a speed limit and no police,” said Marvin Wessel, an engineer who has audited more than 3,000 sites and found one in 10 out of compliance. On a sweltering June day in Phoenix, Mr. Wessel strolled through a residential area near Echo Canyon Park and spotted lawn chairs near a T-Mobile cellular antenna painted brown to match a fence. His monitor showed emissions well above safety limits. After being alerted by The Wall Street Journal, T-Mobile added warning signs and roped off a patch in front of the antenna with a chain. “The safety of the public, our customers and our employees is a responsibility that all of us here at T-Mobile take very seriously,” said a T-Mobile spokeswoman.
While an FCC FAQ on RF safety notes an "inconclusive" connection between cell towers and cancer, it also notes that excessive, close exposure to said radiation can effectively cook human tissue causing a significant number of other health problems.
I read about this the other day. You omitted parts about home and property owners not wanting the warning signs displayed because of fear it hurts their property values. It was also a part about home owners suing to removed the fencing around the towers because it looks ugly.
"However, property owners and residents often become upset regarding RF notification signs, which they oppose due to aesthetics and concerns they might reduce their property value. Tamara Preiss, Verizon's vice president of federal regulatory affairs, told the FCC via letter in February that tenants at a condo complex in New York City had hired a lawyer and demanded the operator remove RF notification signs from a terrace access point."
I think this is a great idea. Anyone who is stupid enough to have the warnings and physical security removed from around cell sites deserves to sit on a lawn chair directly in front of them, hopefully for hours on end.
Well we have been told that cell phones are perfectly safe, so your average person has no idea they are cooking themselves up on the terrace...and worse the judge is still probably using a blackberry..Sitting in front of a cell tower is way different than using a phone. And take all these microwave frequencies (1700+) and you get an interesting coctail. Heck 2.5 sprint (clear) is pretty much cooking yourself in a 2.45 oven
And imagine if a report came out that cell radiation does cause cancer. What would happen to home values then, and say for instance the insane profits at some of the wireless carriers?
I'm no CT, but I happen to know a disproportionate group of guys that happened to perform maint on microwave and ship systems are starting to drop like flies in their 40s from cancer. It's one thing to be exposed to a cell phone, it's entirely another to be exposed in a field in front of a tower, and one out of spec even worse.
No, It's no different then them pulling the warning signs of of utility poles, you know the ons telling you of the danger of the climbing up said pole and dicking around with the cables.
basically the property owner profited by making a bad choice. they should know that RF is dangerous, and should not be legally allowed to remove warning signs, period.
I am considering to buy a new house. The transportation, house style, neighborhood, price, environment are all look fine to me. Except there are 2 cell tower nearby that house. According to »www.antennasearch.com, they are about .02 and .03 mile away from the house.
I search different sites about cell tower vs. health and result are varies. Some research said the tower's radiation way below the limit; some research said no or not enough data to link between cell tower vs. health; some research shows that radiation does affect human health.
This house is so far my best choice, but the confusion about the cell tower radiation hold me up.. Any comments about this topic are welcome.
· 2014-Oct-6 10:42 am: ·
cowboyro Premium Member join:2000-10-11 Shelton, CT
they are about .02 and .03 mile away from the house.
That's about 100ft - so they should be on neighboring houses or even in that yard... For me personally, it would be way, way too close for comfort. While I don't wear tinfoil hats and have multiple wifi access points set to maximum power, I wouldn't want a house that close to a cell tower that spits out massive amounts of RF... Even with d-squared decrease, it's still way more than what a local wifi router creates, plus lower frequencies of cellphones produce a deeper skin effect than a wifi router.
Better watch out for those TV transmission towers, bananas, cosmic rays, and the thermonuclear radiation source otherwise known as the sun.
Ice cubes to icebergs. The background RF is virtually nothing. Background: 0.0000000001uW/cm^2; cell signal 1 mile from the tower: 0.01 uW/cm^2. That's 100,000,000 (one hundred million) times more.
The Sun gives a nice 132,100uWs/cm^2 of much higher and more dangerous radiation. That's 1,321,000,000,000,000 (1,321 trillion) more.
The danger of em radiation is pretty much just limited to the frequency and amount, higher frequency is more dangerous. A light bulb emits much higher frequency and many more watts, but the Sun is down-right mind-boggling more dangerous.
If you fear there is radon in the basement you get a radon test. If you fear the house is full of termites you hire an exterminator. You may want to consider hiring an RF engineer to measure the actual level of radiation. Doesn't sound that crazy now does it?
Cancer via radiation, a camp fire or lightbulb is more dangerous, but at close range, the microwave radiation could start to warm your eyes, which could be bad for your vision if the internal temperature got high enough or hot spots.
· 2014-Oct-7 7:47 pm: ·
IowaCowboy Iowa native Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA kudos:1
I think cell phones causing cancer is just as much junk science as vaccines causing Autism. My mother said I was showing signs of Autism (hard to describe, but mom said I wasnt a typical infant) before I even received any vaccines, which shows that vaccines causing Autism is junk science. Same with cell phones and cancer, I've been a heavy user of cell phones since 2001 and I prefer to hold them up to my right ear and I had a CT scan in 2012 for an unrelated issue and no signs of tumor growth.
Lol, the same people who are against smart meters.
I'm begging for my natural gas company to start rolling out smart meters. Pisses me off whenever it's winter, all my gas bills are estimated and then on a blue moon I get an actual bill, but see no footprints in the snow from the sidewalk to my gas meter.
· 2014-Oct-6 11:50 am: ·
IowaCowboy Iowa native Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA kudos:1
We had remote read (AMR type) meters for many years in Western Mass. All they do is drive by in a truck and bounce a signal from a laptop. And this is an area controlled by a liberal DPU that won't let Verizon repair their facilities with trash bags or shut down POTS.
Here in Chicago suburbs, nearly all the water meter connections are remote drive-by, or they have radio equipment on the water tower or power lines, etc.
Electric company is pushing out smart meters this year and in the next few years. I'm waiting for the gas company. Nothing worse than getting an estimated $300 gas bill when it's really just $100 and waiting a few months to get adjusted.
· 2014-Oct-6 12:24 pm: ·
firephoto We the people Premium Member join:2003-03-18 Brewster, WA
Towers have more power and are also licensed for emission type which restricts the power allowed and the safety guidelines create further limitation. This isn't really science at all, it's the cell installers and maintainers failing to do the required tests accurately that show if their installations are in compliance with the FCC.
Same with cell phones and cancer, I've been a heavy user of cell phones since 2001 and I prefer to hold them up to my right ear and I had a CT scan in 2012 for an unrelated issue and no signs of tumor growth.
Only a cellphone is not exactly the same as a tower in terms of overall exposure. A cellphone only transmits in its allocated time slot, and for practical exposure purposes only when you are talking. A cell tower transmits all day long on multiple channels at much higher power. High RF exposure for long time is known to increase the chances of leukemia (ham operators have disproportionately high , what is not known is "how much is too much?".
· 2014-Oct-6 12:58 pm: ·
mr weather Premium Member join:2002-02-27 Mississauga, ON
That may be true of modern cellphones but a generation ago they were all analog. This meant the transmitter was on all the time, no fancy time slots or variable RF output depending on distance from the tower.
Not to mention old models like bag or transportable phones (akin to a big lunchbox) put out 3 watts of RF goodness.
This is all true, except you never held the bag right up to the side of your head! Also, while TDMA (D-AMPS) and GSM used timeslots, almost all modern air interfaces use some form of CDMA (either IS-95 based CDMA2000 or the more modern HSPA/UMTS networks that use a 5MHz channel for Wideband CDMA).
This means the transmitter is on constantly, however at a much lower power and spread over a 1.25 or 5 MHz channel. GSM "pulsing" is higher powered and concentrated in a very small channel, and is arguably more dangerous than the constant-on of the CDMA-based interfaces.
Also, just because you aren't on a phone call doesn't mean you aren't being exposed. It just means that your brain probably isn't being exposed. Keeping a smartphone in your pocket where the RSSI drops significantly (and therefore causing the handset to increase transmission power) while trying to maintain the always-on data connection is a recipe for long-term increased exposure. A recent study even linked keeping a phone in your pocket for 8 hours a day to decreased counts and damage of sperm in men.
Personally, I choose to use PCS/AWS carriers phones only sparingly. I keep my Wi-Fi off unless I'm actively using it, and try to stick to the cellular band carriers so I'm not microwaving myself. Again, I'll probably catch flak for doing this like I did another issue in another recent thread, but even when the jury is still out on the effects of something, I'll take my chances and err on the side of caution.
· 2014-Oct-6 2:21 pm: ·
IowaCowboy Iowa native Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA kudos:1
Carriers operate on different frequencies in different areas even though they are the same carrier. In Iowa Verizon is a B-side carrier but in Western Mass VZW is an A-side carrier.
I know, but in my market, where I spend the majority of my time, I use the A and B side carriers for the two phones I carry regularly. I have a T-Mobile phone as well, but it's for emergencies/backup and when I do need to carry that phone it never sees the inside of my pocket!
· 2014-Oct-6 2:53 pm: ·
Nanaki aka novaflare. pull punches? Na Premium Member join:2002-01-24 Akron, OH
I had one of those looked for a way to re-purpose the transceiver.
I found all the needed stuff to make use of it as a transceiver package for large scale rc planes for in flight live video but was to damn expensive. Even though i could have had stupid long range on the rc as well just was not worth it. Plus some forums said i would need a special lic to use it all as well do to power output.
· 2014-Oct-6 5:06 pm: ·
Snuffbox nice irl Premium Member join:2011-04-15 Milwaukee, WI kudos:4
My mother said I was showing signs of Autism (hard to describe, but mom said I wasnt a typical infant) before I even received any vaccines, which shows that vaccines causing Autism is junk science.
I am not supporting the theory that vaccines cause autism, they don't. However, the above is comical and proves absolutely nothing. What a joke...
· 2014-Oct-6 4:35 pm: ·
Nanaki aka novaflare. pull punches? Na Premium Member join:2002-01-24 Akron, OH
Radio wave radiation is very different from ionizing radiation. Yes exposure to high watt radio-waves will cook. You micro wave oven uses the same frequency that is common for wifi and cell 2.4x ghz Granted were fast moving away from those frequencies. But you could cook with 800mhz 500mhz of 5 ghz with varied degrees of effectiveness. I wouldn't worry about it. Even in my own yard. Lets say it was 100 feet from my house from the base. It is also likely a couple hundred feet tall or more. So your looking at 400 to 500+ feet from my house to the actual antenna.
Where i work we have one literally just out the door not more than 50 feet away. But ive yet to see any cell service pegged bar wise. Reason is simple the beam shape is a cone starting at about 3 feet in diam and rapidly expanding out like a cone from each antenna. So the radiation pattern puts the strongest signal a few 100 feet away my virgin mobile phone pegs out near a local church that is almost 1k feet away.
So they are getting more signal (radiation) 1kish feet away than i am about 60 feet away (im inside about 10 feet from the door).
For those who are worried for peace of mind buy your self a gallon of paint made to block radio waves and paint your ceilings with it. If there is some health problems possible it will mitigate it by a huge margin. Being that close you should get the equivalent cell reception you would from a tower about half a mile or so distant. That is so long as you don't paint all your walls to then um your house will be a cell free zone
While i think it is all pure bs i have nothing wrong with people having peace of mind. The price of the paint is a small price to pay for that peace of mind imo.
If it absorbed it would generate heat. But yeh painting it wrong and you could end up with the radio signals bouncing around in the house. That would at the very least kill your cell reception not enhance it. But the idea is you paint the ceiling and walls in general line of site. This reflects the signals and scatters them preventing the majority from entering. the ground bounce and bounce off of other buildings should let enough in through unpainted areas for you to have cell service. Or your cell would just hop to another tower with better signal.
It's not junk science, there is some good research showing strong correlations, but none have found a causal relation.
We're starting to find that cancer is enhanced by microwave radiation, but microwave does not cause it. One student found an increase is the number of cancers near the ear of common use, but not an increase in the rate of cancer.
It may not increase your chance of getting cancer, but it may increase the chance of what kind of cancer you get.
"In a bit of news that likely won't be received well by the electromagnetically sensitive"
I have seem claims from people that they are "electromagnetically sensitive" but I have never seen any mention of tests to prove/disprove their claims. If they are, they should be able to support their claims with a double blind test. Of course, that depends on what their actual claim is. If it is that they are being harmed then that is different from claiming that they can detect the radiation. For Example, a claim that it gives them headaches can be tested.
Being exposed to high levels of RF radation can cause Cataracts.
The cornea is very sensitive to RF energy at at the resonant frequency of the water molecule. It cooks the lens. Many engineers working on RADAR systems during WWII developed Cataracts.
It is possible that cell phone radiation causes brain tumors. A friend of mine died from a brain tumor which was on the same side of his head where the cellular antenna was positioned. He was an early adopter. His first portable cell phone was a BRICK.
Here's some white papers: Martin Pall, Professor Emeritus Washington State, the primary action of microwaves is not heat. It's actually able to alter the voltages and electromagnetic fields inside the brain, body, cells, and DNA. One of the main things this does is activate voltage gated calcium channels, which causes release of calcium inside cells, which converts to nitrous oxide and super oxide. The result is cancer, death, insomnia, depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, increased headaches, increased numbness, mysterious illnesses, increased risk of a doctor saying it's all in your head, autism in new borns, death in plants, prevention of cell growth in plants, injury to plants/trees. Melatonin levels drop, peoples "pineal gland" will stay activated as if the sun never went down, and cancer levels increase from lack of melatonin and other problems, melatonin is not produced if the pineal gland is improperly activated.
Next cellphones were found to cause several type of brain tumors with daily exposure. The old studies that looked for a cause, actually did show increased risk for brain tumors, but news reporters focused on the users who were only exposed at most for a few minutes one time per week.
WiFi emits the same type of energy at a slightly lower power level compared to cellphones, whereas smart meters might output about the same amount of energy as cellphones in a mesh grid. People in towns first w/ installed smart meters had increased amounts of a condition called electromagnetic hypersensitivity, upwards of 3-5% of the population. These are just the people who actively note their symptoms.
Problem: cell towers are located every few miles, operating on a bunch of frequencies, and sometimes there will be 2-6 + cell devices emitting very high amounts of energy right in our homes, next to us as we sleep, in our pockets, next to our heads, etc. there might also be 20+ WiFi or wireless devices in the home.
all this has caused millions of times increases of radiation exposure over the years.. the technology could be much safer, using directed energy rather than omnidirectional antenna systems, and other tricks. Australia actually did do some optimization there, to reduce the exposure by several hundred times.
they are saying that within 10~ years we will finally start to see more increased rises in cancer, because it generally takes 10-15 years for cancer to develop around this stuff. and many of these technologies are newer, so we're still waiting to see the long-term effects.
bees, birds, and animals are effected, too. it's thought to be a cause for colony collapse disorder, and birds having navigation issues, ultimately going extinct.
DNA was found to use radio frequencies for communication, we knew that for awhile, being that magnetic and electromagnetic properties help DNA do it's thing, push and move and bind molecules and particles around, etc.
Dr. Pall Dart is another source for info. He did a compilation of data for the Eugene, OR smart meter deployment. There are dozens of white papers tho, even DARPA has some, going back to the 1970s and before. One of the first case studies is when the Russians bombarded the US Embassy with scalar wave radar technology during a surveillance operation, for nearly 20 years, which showed up as the area being bombarded with microwaves. This caused back then what they called "microwave sickness." We know non-ionizing radiation does in fact make people quite sick. Cellphones and WiFi and smart meters and wireless phones and stupid shit, look more and more like the cigarette industry; a dangerous product, being sold for a profit, that no one will regulate even if it effects people second hand and giant towers are set up to basically beam radiation into each persons home/body no matter where they go.
White Paper: Microwave Electromagnetic Fields Act by Activating Voltage-Gated Calcium Channels: Why the Current International Safety Standards Do Not Predict Biological Hazard, by Dr. Martin Pall (2013). Electromagnetic frequencies or radio frequency (ie, from 4G cellular service and WiFi and power lines) exposure causes mental illness, autism, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, ADHD, developmental conditions, bipolar disorder, sleep disturbances, tumers, cancer, and DNA/cellular damage. »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· 5551.pdf
White Paper: BIOLOGICAL AND HEALTH EFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIO FREQUENCY TRANSMISSIONS A REVIEW OF THE RESEARCH LITERATURE, by Dr. Paul Dart (2013). We're literally killing ourselves and ignoring the side effects of EMF/RF exposure. Birds, bees, humans, plants, DNA, cells all see effects. xD »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· 5552.pdf
White Paper: Electromagnetic fields, the modulation of brain tissue functions - A possible paradigm shift in biology »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· emfs.pdf
White Paper: Sensitivity of calcium binding in cerebral tissue to weak environmental electric fields oscillating at low frequency »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· ency.pdf
PDF: Do You Have Microwave/EMR Sickness? Your Cell Phone (i.e. Electromagnetic Weapon) May - Insidiously - Be Making Us Sick! »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· ness.pdf
Book: HANDBOOK OF BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, THIRD EDITION: Bioengineering and Biophysical Aspects of Electromagnetic Fields »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· elds.pdf
Wikipedia article electromagnetic hypersensitivity. Idiopathic environmental intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (IEI-EMF) is a descriptive term for symptoms purportedly caused by exposure to electromagnetic fields. Other terms for IEI-EMF include electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS), electrohypersensitivity, electro-sensitivity, and electrical sensitivity (ES).
Although the thermal effects of electromagnetic fields on the body are established, self-described sufferers of electromagnetic hypersensitivity report responding to non-ionizing electromagnetic fields (or electromagnetic radiation) at intensities well below the limits permitted by international radiation safety standards.
The reported symptoms of EHS include headache, fatigue, stress, sleep disturbances, skin symptoms like prickling, burning sensations and rashes, pain and ache in muscles and many other health problems. Whatever their cause, EHS symptoms are a real and sometimes disabling problem for the affected person. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El ··· sitivity
Wi-Fi Kills Plants, Could Harm Kids-But Can Be Harnessed for Energy. Epoch Times article. Lets have 10+ fricken WiFi and cellular devices all around us at all times people, fucking up our atoms, sub atomic particles, molecules, DNA, cells, magnetic/electromagnetic fields every where we go! »www.theepochtimes.com/n3 ··· -energy/
Learn more and ban Smart Meters, WiFi in schools, and cellphones, and change the way these technologies work to a more safer method. Like single photon width directed energy communications. Here's a couple of RF/EMF websites:
Dr. Martin Pall, Ph.D & Dr. Paul Dart, M.D. Presentation before Oregon House of Representatives Health Committee, February 2014. Click to download/stream mp4 video. : »www.oregonstatehospital. ··· tion.mp4
more info on my site, because a lot of this has been weaponized. »www.obamasweapon.com/
They build fences, post signs, etc. etc. etc. Ummm, maybe a stupid question, but why not just adjust the thing and pull it into spec? That's what we USED to do when dinosaurs walked the Earth. Oh... and Why isn't the FCC going around and checking these things and correcting them? It's what we USED to pay them to do when...
Silly me... I forgot this is Amerika now, where "work" is a four letter dirty word and it's OK to fry your neighbors gonads to avoid it or save a penny or two.