 ropeguruPremium join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA | Hey... At least they are good at something..  | |
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 |  TweakPremium join:2002-06-08 Oklahoma City, OK | I agree with this survey. I have an iphone 3gs and my neighbor has an iphone 3g. We are a building apart and we have lots of dropped calls . I know its not an issue with the iphones themselves because my friend from Canada has no problems with dropped calls. AT&T network stinks. | |
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| said by MovieLover76:When I first got my iPhone 3GS in Sept 09, I only noticed a small increase in the numbers of dropped calls, over the past month my dropped calls have increased noticeably, in central NJ. I'm having more issues in my apartment itself, with the signal dropping out it seems. Oddly enough you know when my calls are most likely to drop, when I'm on the phone with my mother who is also an AT&T subscriber, guess we double our odds of disconnecting because we have two ends on a buggy AT&T wireless connection. I hope they fix it soon, I love my IPhone, but the dropped calls are getting tiresome. It's the iPhone not the network in a lot of cases, problems are caused by the infineon chip in the iPhone itself, my LG EXPO doesn't have any 3G problems like my iPhone. -- 2010 Ford Fusion Sport | |
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 |  |  TweakPremium join:2002-06-08 Oklahoma City, OK 2 edits | Re: It's a fact Untrue there are none of these reports worldwide. Other nations get much better 3g performance with the iphone . I took my iphone to Vancouver Canada and did not have any problems with dropped calls. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 2 edits | CDMA vs GSM
The chart shows Verizon & Sprint doing the best with T-Mobile then AT&T pulling up the rear. Maybe the CDMA technology just works better for Voice than GSM, especially when doing the handoffs as you move from cell to cell. I know my brother has AT&T and calls from him are fine, unless he is in the car moving or a train. Then the call will be fine & all of a sudden it will just drop away. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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I personally usually don't have issues with just 1 bar on Sprint. I'm surprised data still works well with just 1 bar (RSI around 100). | |
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| Re: CDMA vs GSM said by swintec:said by xenophon:I don't have the source on hand but I recall reading many times over the years that CDMA does a better job sustaining a call with a lower signal level. I have read that as well. One bar with Sprint/Verizon will sound just as good as full bars. Typically AT&T and T-Mobile can too when they are running AMR-Full Rate, but when they have Half Rate running the call quality is pretty bad at any signal level. Especially while moving. -- 2010 Ford Fusion Sport | |
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 |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | 3G (AT&T/T-Mobile) is based on CDMA technology and carries voice.
The biggest problem, with AT&T (not sure about T-Mo), is the use of spectrum.
GSM + 3G both carrying voice + data consuming spectrum on separate spectrum. Essentially having AT&T split their capacity between legacy GSM and more current UMTS/3G.
CDMA has voice 1x and data and EVDO. Voice is all 1x, data is mostly all EVDO.
I.E. for ~40MHz of spectrum in a place like L.A., VZW would have ~25MHz of voice on 850MHz cellular, and ~15 MHz of EVDO data on 1900 PCS AT&T has mixed 25 MHz of 850/1900 GSM voice + data and 20 MHz of mixed 850/1900 for 3G voice / data. Until AT&T cuts GSM spectrum for 3G, this will continue, and possibly get worse. | |
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1 edit | said by Romney2012:The chart shows Verizon & Sprint doing the best with T-Mobile then AT&T pulling up the rear. Maybe the CDMA technology just works better for Voice than GSM, especially when doing the handoffs as you move from cell to cell. I know my brother has AT&T and calls from him are fine, unless he is in the car moving or a train. Then the call will be fine & all of a sudden it will just drop away. The calls drop because of capacity issues, not because of technology. Plus ATT uses UMTS in NYC which can talk to 3 towers at once. Its all backhaul issues. -- They Live... We Sleep...
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and that is not how you run a survey if you want a statically unbiased sample. I might as well just ask a few of my friends
how many of you have had dropped calls and then pump out some graphs to prove whatever point that I want. Bogus survey methodology leads to bogus results. | |
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 |  TweakPremium join:2002-06-08 Oklahoma City, OK | Re: Surveys Are you an an employee of At&t? If not why on earth would any one defend such a crappy network? | |
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| Re: Surveys Well, their network is fairly robust here (SBC Home territory before then expanded and bought out everyone and became AT&T) and yet I still witness and hear users complaining about dropped calls. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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All over the nation people complain of dropped calls . This survey just reflects what a poor network At&t has. Sometimes the truth hurts people that work for that horrible company. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Surveys said by Tweak:From Austin to New York to Miami I hear complaints from friends and family over dropped calls. All over the nation people complain of dropped calls . This survey just reflects what a poor network At&t has. Sometimes the truth hurts people that work for that horrible company. In my experience where I go most (N.NJ/PA) I have no issues with the quality of AT&T's network. For the past 6 years while traveling for both business and pleasure I also have no issues with the quality of AT&T's network. It equals and in many cases exceeds Verizon's.
And BTW I don't work for AT&T; I work for a utility company. | |
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 |  |  |  mlelandPremium join:2002-12-17 Westwood, CA | Well that is great for you. You must have 3 other ATT users on your tower.
I have an Iphone 3g. I work in Palo Alto across the street from HP's world headquarters and the Zerox PARC facility(They invented the computer mouse). The only way for us to get even remotely decent coverage here was to install our own building repeaters. Even though we had a corporate contract with ATT for all cell phones(in the 4-5k range) they still would do nothing to allow us to use them at the freaking office!
I have been to several SJ Sharks hockey games this year. At every game, no matter how many people were in attendance, I had to force the phone to EDGE only in order to use ANY function. I had no voice, no data and no txt abilities while the phone was in 3g mode. I switched to EDGE during a playoff game on April 29th and suddenly I got 10 txts that were sent to me over the previous hour. Others around me with t-mo,vzw, and sprint had NONE of these issues. Their phones were fully functional at all times during the game. I do understand that I am at an event where there are a lot of uses in a confined space. I have heard that ATT does have a cell "in the building" at HP Pavilion but obviously it still can't handle the load. | |
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| Re: t-mobile said by FBGuy:i love being among the minority for a change. T-Mobile is always the minority... -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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| Dropped calls I get a moderate amount of what I call half-dropped calls. I can still hear the person I'm talking to perfectly but somewhere during the conversion they can no longer hear me, no matter how loudly I scream into the phone. I can usually call back and everything is O.K. again, but I shouldn't have to. And sometimes calling back ain't convenient. | |
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I mean really - do you remember every call you made in the last 3 months and then if it dropped or not? I sure don't.
I can say I'm on AT&T with an iPhone 3G and it doesn't drop calls much. It does drop them but so does Verizon so it's a wash.
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| I switched from AT&T to Verizon because of this. My wife and I both had AT&T for 10+ years and have had dropped calls. When I cancelled, neither of us could go 10 minutes without a dropped call. Didn't matter if our signal was at full. Didn't matter if we stood in one place, or if we were driving. Calls dropped all the time.
Went to verizon a few months ago. I've had one dropped call. -- 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.' -Thomas Jefferson - | |
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Night and day... so much better.
I almost chucked my phone out of the car after my call dropped 4 times while trying to have one conversation while on AT&T. I drove the car straight to the Verizon store and walked out with a Droid.
My bill is 10% higher and my service is 500% better. -- It's all part of my rock and roll fantasy | |
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 |  |  ArchivisYour DaddyPremium join:2001-11-26 Earth kudos:17 | Re: I switched from AT&T to Verizon because of this. That is, word for word, exactly my situation. | |
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| Re: I switched from AT&T to Verizon because of this. I switched from Verizon to AT&T about five years ago for the same reasons. I don't have a problem with dropped calls at all. Not sure if it's location, but you and I both live in the same area. Strange. -- Play DSLr Mafia: »Pub Games | |
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 | | att Bham iPhone 3G was always REALLY good here in Birmingham, Al. - UNTIL the first of the year. *Something is going on with the towers here. Just this spring, everyone w/ an iPhone says their dropped calls have gone way up. Same with me, especially calling another att cell phone in Las Vegas, NV. Calls drop dead, redialing hangs with dead air/ no activity. Really tiring of this... | |
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