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Study: Fiber Broadband Boosts Home Value
A new study by the Fiber to the Home Council finds that home values are unsurprisingly higher for homes that have a fiber to the home connection. The Fiber to the Home Council is a collection of vendors looking to sell connections and network hardware, as such the study probably needs to be taken with a grain of salt (or two), but the report claims home value is increased $5,000 when a fiber line is present. Of course even though the Council notes there's 58 fiber-to-the-home providers in the US offering FTTH to 10.4 million homes, most of the country still can't get it -- and growth of deployment remains slow (7% from one year ago).
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kdwycha
join:2003-01-30
Ruskin, FL

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Well....

I have to say that mostly affluent areas get FTTH so this claim would be true.
onthecake
join:2003-08-08
Kansas City, MO

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Re: Well....

The entire East side of KC has access to FTTH and that area is about as far from "affluent" as you can get.

Zenit_IIfx
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Purcellville, VA

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Re: Well....

And KC is Google Fiber territory right?

Look at VZ's FIOS footprint as a better example of what ILEC's do when they build out FTTH.

MovieLover76
join:2009-09-11
Cherry Hill, NJ

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Re: Well....

Yea I live in NJ and FiOS while not a strictly affluent area thing, it is much more likely in the affluent areas. The higher end apartment complexes usually boast that they have FiOS available
existenz
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I'm in Plaza area (affluent area of KC), which has GFiber but value not really going up more than normal - everyone in my area has access to it. Given that most of KC metro is getting it, not sure how much factor it will have. Might have more impact where FTTH is sporadic in different areas. If one neighborhood/house has it and next door doesn't, may impact value.
elefante72
join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

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Re: Well....

Well,

With Verizon in my area, they have specifically put FiOS in the most affluent AND most dense areas. There have been affluent areas that have been left in the dust because they are not as dense.

Almost everyone has access to cable (TWC), so while their prices are much higher than FiOS, not enough to boost house value.

In the poor areas I see dish (mostly Dish) everywhere and I assume that in said areas they are skipping internet, however TWC has a $15 2/1 which anyone can get and for your non-media home this is a great value (if you buy a modem).

I think the issue is where there is no cable that is the problem. That means you are left w/ DSL or WISP. That is a big problem because in the US at least DSL is heavily being dis-invested in. So you have sat or wireless, neither which are cost effective today.

ILpt4U
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said by kdwycha:

I have to say that mostly affluent areas get FTTH so this claim would be true.

I don't know about that -- I've seen relatively new construction with AT&T FTTH -- some are very affordable "middle class" cookie cutter houses or townhouses -- nothing extravagant.

Gilitar
join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

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Obviously

And having AT&T fiber to the curb lowers my home value...

Zenit_IIfx
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Re: Obviously

All you can hope for is a rapid replacement of the aging IFITL gear.

AT&T will have to do something about it eventually, either lots of tiny VDSL2 DSLAMs or FTTH. That old equipment will run out of spares since the manufacturers are long since gone.

They could probably do GPON rather easily, just replace the IFITL ped with a GPON splitter, and replace the CO equipment.

ILpt4U
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Re: Obviously

said by Zenit_IIfx:

All you can hope for is a rapid replacement of the aging IFITL gear.

AT&T will have to do something about it eventually, either lots of tiny VDSL2 DSLAMs or FTTH. That old equipment will run out of spares since the manufacturers are long since gone.

They could probably do GPON rather easily, just replace the IFITL ped with a GPON splitter, and replace the CO equipment.

Or replace the CEV/RT equipment. Supposedly IFITL fiber all terminates to equipment in a CEV, then links back to the CO from the CEV

The trick, if I understand it, with converting to GPON -- is if there are not spare fibers in the FTTC peds, you have to consider maintaining existing service while the changeover is made -- thats a lot of temp fiber laying around

But yeah, if the Fiber all terminates back to either the CO or a CEV, put an Alcatel-Lucent 7342 OLT in the CO/CEV, and put optical splitters in the peds and go GPON FTTP

Reading between the lines, a lot of AT&T's "Fiber To The Press Release" (as is often referenced around these parts) GigaPower new market announcements have been in the old BellSouth area, which to me implies that IFITL is on schedule to be GPON'd. That, and there are on-record comments by AT&T higher ups saying that IFITL will need an upgrade, either to modern FTTC or GPON

Gilitar
join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

Gilitar

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Re: Obviously

said by ILpt4U:

said by Zenit_IIfx:

All you can hope for is a rapid replacement of the aging IFITL gear.

AT&T will have to do something about it eventually, either lots of tiny VDSL2 DSLAMs or FTTH. That old equipment will run out of spares since the manufacturers are long since gone.

They could probably do GPON rather easily, just replace the IFITL ped with a GPON splitter, and replace the CO equipment.

Or replace the CEV/RT equipment. Supposedly IFITL fiber all terminates to equipment in a CEV, then links back to the CO from the CEV

The trick, if I understand it, with converting to GPON -- is if there are not spare fibers in the FTTC peds, you have to consider maintaining existing service while the changeover is made -- thats a lot of temp fiber laying around

But yeah, if the Fiber all terminates back to either the CO or a CEV, put an Alcatel-Lucent 7342 OLT in the CO/CEV, and put optical splitters in the peds and go GPON FTTP

Reading between the lines, a lot of AT&T's "Fiber To The Press Release" (as is often referenced around these parts) GigaPower new market announcements have been in the old BellSouth area, which to me implies that IFITL is on schedule to be GPON'd. That, and there are on-record comments by AT&T higher ups saying that IFITL will need an upgrade, either to modern FTTC or GPON

I agree with you that they are upgrading FITL to FTTH. They are just too darn slow doing it.

battleop
join:2005-09-28
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I call BS!

I own two homes right now, one has FTTH and the other has it available (just need to order service) and neither have seen a $5k increase in value. One of houses just went on the market and I sent our agent a text and asked if the availability of fiber would increase the value of the house by $5k. She said for some people the availability of fiber might make a difference in if someone buys the house or not but it's most certainly not going to raise the value of the house by $5k.
silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA

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Fiber

It can. Though when I sold a home a couple years ago, the buyers could not care less that the home was in a FTTH area. They already knew they were going with Mediacom cable since that is what their previous home had. The realtor did not feel it was important enough to mention either. If it was gigabit access perhaps they would have cared, but when it is more along the lines with cable in terms of speed then it seems to be irrelevant.

Note: There are 58 FTTH providers offering gigabit. There are nearly 1,000 FTTH providers in the US providing access to 10.4 million homes. Though the number of homes with FTTH available is a lot higher than 10.4 million.

battleop
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Re: Fiber

said by silbaco:

Note: There are 58 FTTH providers offering gigabit. There are nearly 1,000 FTTH providers in the US providing access to 10.4 million homes. Though the number of homes with FTTH available is a lot higher than 10.4 million.

#service start sarcasm

Impossible!!! Only EPB can offer Gigabit no one has faster internet! Well that's what EPB's marketing says.

#service stop sarcasm
BiggA
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Over half of those are Verizon FIOS. And probably some of them are U-Verse, which, except for a few areas, still offers no benefit over VDSL, and is slower than cable. FIOS was good... when Verizon actually built it out. Now that the only substantial growth is in NYC, and that build out is going at a snail's pace, it doesn't look good for fiber expansion in the US...

SHoTTa35
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Not buying a home...

....but even when apartment hunting I look for places with good internet speeds. If slow ADSL is all that's available (even 16mbps is "slow" for me ), it wont get a 2nd look. I've been checking for places now and my new minimum is basically 25-30Mbps down and 5Mbps Up! MIN!

These requirements wont be for everyone but I work from home sometimes and man it takes forever to get anything done if I don't have decent speed. Makes me hate working at home and rather drive to work in traffic to get it all done instead. LOL

gbro84
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join:2007-04-17
Azusa, CA

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it was a requirement when i bought my place

when i purchased my home in 2011, the first thing i did was to look up the addresses on Verizon's website to make sure that house was equipped for Verizon FiOS. My mom told me I was crazy, but now when she comes over my place and complains about her slow Time Warner cable internet at home, I remind her of the times when she would make fun of me. LOL

I can safely say that I would pay a little bit more for a place (the next time I buy) if FiOS was available at that address versus Time Warner or Charter. I'm one of the lucky ones though. Houses on the south side of the freeway I live next to have NO FiOS available and little pockets of houses here and there in the City don't either.
elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA

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Nonsense

The last time they pulled this stunt, they were surveying people browsing a real estate web site, not using close home sales.

In this case, it appears to be complete BS.

The Gigaom article refers to an FTTH Council "study", but when you visit the FTTH Council web site, it refers to the Gigaom article, which in turn cites itself as the source.

How about actually showing us this "study" so it can be properly vetted, if it even exists?
BiggA
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Central CT

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I dobut it

Most people pay no attention to internet, as long as some form of cable is available. I could see lack of cable really hurting a home's value, but not a lack of FTTH if there is cable.

joebarnhart
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join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

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Like everything -- it depends on the buyer

Getting FTTH meant a lot to me. So much that when the original provider went out of business I invested a lot to bring the connectivity back to my home. I know people who would easily write a check for $10K to get fiber to their homes -- why does $5K seem unrealistic?

It only depends on how much good connectivity means to YOU, the buyer of the home.

alchav
join:2002-05-17
Saint George, UT

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Re: Like everything -- it depends on the buyer

The people that put in Fiber made this statement, but they see this is going to be reality in the near future. I left a Community that had Fiber, and moved into a Community with Fiber, so I would definitely pay to have it. As more people see the value in Fiber they will want it and pay. With Streaming Service and accessing The Cloud, Fiber is the only way to go.