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ohreally
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three gee you kay

of course they don't bother to say how many 2G/3G only smartphones are still in use. They do at least admit that they'll fall back to 2G after the shutdown (the UK network operators aren't in any rush to turn this off yet, the financial/technical gains are minimal)

crucially it doesn't affect dumbphone users

"However, Vodafone, EE and Three have all sought to reassure customers that their 2G networks will remain in place as a safety net for those who lose access to faster 3G speeds following the switch-off."

Three doesn't have a 2G network and never has. Clue's in the name. They used to have a roaming agreement for 2G but I'm not sure that is in place anymore and they turned it off as in an area as soon as they deemed 3G good enough. Three's own website therefore makes no mention of 2G. Good journalism there.

Brian_M
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Re: three gee you kay

Having *just* been through this with Verizon.... it borked their systems pretty bad. One of my lines was without full service for over a week on a 5g Pixel 6a phone, couldn't make outgoing calls and voice mail was dead for the most part, but then the service was up and down for several days where nothing worked. I was one of thousands who reported this issue, who knows how many more I didn't see? Another line worked just fine... sim swapped phones and it was the sim/line that had the problem, not the phone. Was a miserable experience when combined with their anti-support services.

I'd heard the same happened when AT&T unplugged 3g, but didn't bother digging on that info.

Hope the old folks in UK get a better experience than I had.
ohreally
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Re: three gee you kay

it should be a softer landing since any 3G device will fall back to 2G (except if you're using Three), so there won't be the same issues with people having VoLTE disabled and being unable to make calls as appears to have happened in the US

It probably also helps that GSM/UMTS/LTE are much more tightly integrated compared to CDMA and LTE. Same core network, same SIM, just different ways to connect to it.
WeakSauce
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Re: three gee you kay

Unlike the U.S. British companies tend to plan and think through better. I'm sure the U.K. sunset of 3g will go much smoother than the untied states did.
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Re: three gee you kay

said by WeakSauce:

Unlike the U.S. British companies tend to plan and think through better. I'm sure the U.K. sunset of 3g will go much smoother than the untied states did.

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Anon43dbf
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said by WeakSauce:

Unlike the U.S. British companies tend to plan and think through better. I'm sure the U.K. sunset of 3g will go much smoother than the untied states did.

Verizon announced the sunsetting of 3G in 2016. How much time did people need to switch? I think 6 years is long enough.
WeakSauce
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Re: three gee you kay

Yeah and they were selling 3g dumb phones until 2021. As well as "some rugged" smart phones 3g only.

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said by WeakSauce:

Yeah and they were selling 3g dumb phones until 2021. As well as "some rugged" smart phones 3g only.

Actually Verizon stopped selling 3G dumbphone in February 2018. So you lie. All dumbphones were 4G for nearly 4 years before the shutdown
WeakSauce
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Re: three gee you kay

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Now see that's just not true. Verizon postpaid stopped selling 3g phones 2020 prepaid 2021. Subsidiaries 2021. Government subsidized, Obama phones are still available. Apparently your not familiar with how carrier stock works?

Verizon will keep giving out the phones as long as it's a tax right off or the stock is depleted. Verizon is like any good drug dealers. Keep stepping on inventory till it's no one buys it. Then ship it out of country.

Calling me liar with no explanation of facts is very woke of you though.
said by Anon43dbf :

said by WeakSauce:

Yeah and they were selling 3g dumb phones until 2021. As well as "some rugged" smart phones 3g only.

Actually Verizon stopped selling 3G dumbphone in February 2018. So you lie. All dumbphones were 4G for nearly 4 years before the shutdown