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join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | Must be nice... ...considering I pay $40 a month for 3/684.  | |
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join:2007-10-01
St Catharines, ON | Re: Must be nice... i hear ya, but their lines don't have to travel over great big spaces to service people like they have to in North America. | |
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Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | Re: Must be nice... That's certainly true...but it's always nice to dream.  | |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA | Doesn't explain why North American cities can't be wired at those speeds. Obviously the speed of the backbone will be the limiting factor then, but I don't see why I can't have that speed at least to my ISP. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Must be nice... Sure it does. The problem is quite simple- the large companies that have the financial resources to deploy such connections to cities also have massive rural and suburban areas that they have to serve, and prefer a one-size-fits-all (or as many as possible, at least) solution. The city-only carriers like RCN are too small to do anything, and are struggling to survive anyway. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Must be nice... Plus, if the big boys would try to do something like this in locations where it's financially feasible, regulators, consumer advocates, and every other yahoo would quickly accuse the providers of "cherry picking" their deployment.
I don't think it's a matter so much of the ISPs wanting to have a unified network. They don't want to have to justify why Town X isn't can't have gigabit symmetrical where City Y can, or even why Customer A can get it in a highrise, but Customer B across the street not in a high rise can't. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by dan991199  :i hear ya, but their lines don't have to travel over great big spaces to service people like they have to in North America. Please. You act as if ISPs are having to string a line from California to Maine. By the way Japan is the size of Montana. And Montana is 100X the size of Rhode Island so why can't Rhode Island have symmetrical 1 Gbps? | |
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| nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| said by Hazy Arc :...considering I pay $40 a month for 3/684. don't feel bad; they only have that because:
- japan has high population density
- japan meddles in business and actually passes regulations
- japan has a broadband plan for their country because they think it matters
- whatever other reasons the trolls give for why we don't have these speeds and prices
besides, as all the incumbents tell us, we don't need these speeds - it will only make you hit your cap faster - hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
1 edit | Re: Must be nice... didn't realize that; it's always nice to pay more for less, isn't it? | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Must be nice... Well it helps not having fund an army. | |
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join:2006-06-05
Euclid, OH
| Re: Must be nice... said by BF69 :Well it helps not having fund an army. Yep, we fund it for them. Ever since we beat them in WWII, and started occupation. We've never left. Heck, I just read we just parked another supercarrier in one of their harbors. | |
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CUBS_FAN
You're Killing Me
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
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| Wrong place. broadly available 10Mbps DSL service costs around ¥4,599 ($43). $43 for 10meg DSL... WOW I am in the wrong country. It'll be hard forcing myself to eat sushi and uncooked veggies | |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: Wrong place. Oh, it's not as bad as you think. | |
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LiamJunket
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
·Comcast
| said by CUBS_FAN :broadly available 10Mbps DSL service costs around ¥4,599 ($43). $43 for 10meg DSL... WOW I am in the wrong country. It'll be hard forcing myself to eat sushi and uncooked veggies Don't worry. The Japanese don't want you. They are one of the most culturally monolithic anti-immigrant nations on earth. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition···on#Japan
Gaijin need not apply.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX
| Re: Wrong place. Hey, don't pick on TKJUnkMail ! He knows everything and is never wrong (just ignore the word junk in his name, is just a coincidence)
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What
@pacbell.net
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| You've got to be joking. You think it's difficult to become a legal citizen in this country? I have a great deal of experience in this area. I watch people who barely speak English get coached on how to answer the questions in the interview. Then they go in for their interview, and even though it's quite clear that the applicant truly has little command of the English language, and is simply reciting answers to questions based on rote memorization and no true understanding of American History or the structure of our Government, they're still easily granted citizenship.
Our process for granting citizenship is a joke these days. Sure, it make take some time. But these immigrants know how to play they game. | |
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join:2001-12-27
Bordentown, NJ
| clearly you have never been to Japan. Get outside of the main areas of the big cities, and you will be surprised how many people will want nothing to do with you, refuse to serve you in their resteraunts, etc. I'm certainly not saying the US is perfect, but it is very blatant over there. | |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| said by LiamJunket :said by CUBS_FAN :broadly available 10Mbps DSL service costs around ¥4,599 ($43). $43 for 10meg DSL... WOW I am in the wrong country. It'll be hard forcing myself to eat sushi and uncooked veggies Don't worry. The Japanese don't want you. They are one of the most culturally monolithic anti-immigrant nations on earth. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition···on#JapanGaijin need not apply. I especially love the [citation needed] part of the last sentence in Wikipedia.
I know a significant number of non-native Japanese who live there. All of them are either 1) exchange students, or 2) highly skilled workers (all tech-oriented). To which I say... so what?
We have both anti-immigrant and pro-immigrant attitudes in the United States -- and I would say say our immigration laws are too open. I'd like to see programmes like H1Bs seriously reconsidered; I have great qualms with how businesses abuse cheap labour. I can't "blame" the H1B programme for this, because the fault is ultimately with those businesses -- but we all know it's impossible to change a corporate mentality.
That said, as a Caucasian American who has great interest in Asian cultures (studied Mandarin for 5 years + lived with a Chinese family, and am currently learning Korean), I can assure you that said immigration discrimination (sounds like an 80s pop song!) does not upset me or make me think worse of Japan. Different culture, different history, different environment. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Because we all know that TK and the GOP are all about cultural inclusion and a love of immigrants....  | |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
| Re: Wrong place. said by Karl Bode :Because we all know that TK and the GOP are all about cultural inclusion and a love of immigrants.... Especially if they can pick them up on a street corner for cheap! | |
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Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan
| said by LiamJunket :said by CUBS_FAN :broadly available 10Mbps DSL service costs around ¥4,599 ($43). $43 for 10meg DSL... WOW I am in the wrong country. It'll be hard forcing myself to eat sushi and uncooked veggies Don't worry. The Japanese don't want you. They are one of the most culturally monolithic anti-immigrant nations on earth. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition···on#JapanGaijin need not apply. Pretty much. | |
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anony101
@comcast.net
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ACompromiser
| Japan gets 1 Gig the US get excuses Let the shills come out. | |
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Froggy
@teksavvy.com | Re: Japan gets 1 Gig the US get excuses Canada gets the dog whistle award. | |
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xyther
@comcast.net | wont reach it outside their country.. i would just live off fried rice.
plus i have noticed that even with those fast speeds, reaching them outside their country more than likely will never happen. | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Sure, but can you afford the entry fee? How much does it cost to live in a "single-dwelling home" or small apartment building in the Tokyo area? | |
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Re: Sure, but can you afford the entry fee? said by Frank :about the same cost as it does to live in or around manhattan  Running that from my "analogy to Jersey" translator, I get "Fuhgetaboutit" | |
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gristus
join:2008-09-26
| Crappy availability So that's the third country, but just like sweden and holland (even on a houseboat) it's barely available anywhere in the country. 
BTW, does this provider use upload caps too? Apparently NTT has 30 GB a day caps which means you can only upload with less than 3 mbit/s a full day before hitting the idiotic transfer limit. | |
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| CopperMonkey
join:2007-12-18
united state | Re: Crappy availability As far as I can tell they don't have a cap. Half the time I don't use 30 gigs in a MONTH so I don't see a problem with such a large daily cap. | |
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| Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
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YourAIJIN
@dslextreme.com
| Bro I hate to call you an idiot, but honestly who upload 30 GBs of data in a day? Do you even understand how much 30 gb's is?
There is no cap on downloads as well which makes it all the much sweeter. The problem with uploads is that Japan's anime industry is in hot water due to the users uploading and seeding anime all day and night or else those caps wouldn't be there either.
It's our government that needs to step in and help the broad band in this country, not some crappy failed company like aig. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Hit your cap 250 seconds Imagine if comcast was 1G , you could hit your cap theoretically in 250 seconds!  | |
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dlewis23
join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL
1 edit | Not all that amazing 1gbps isn't all that important because no web server is going to be able to serve you anything that fast.
Your computers hard drive can barley write that fast. Anything over 100mbps at the home isn't really needed. | |
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TolkenRing2114
@in.us | Tolken Ring Its not about Race our country anymore... letz build the largest Tolken Ring around the equator... | |
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saved4l8ter
@centurytel.com
| Terabytes does not equal food Listen to all you talking about your TB's of saved shows and huge networks when we have people in the US that are homeless and children on the streets not getting enough to eat. Whats really funny to me is that for all those tv shows or movies recorded, you can only watch 24 hours of that stuff a day. Your life expectancy will shrink from lack of sleep and lol, I can stream for free most of what I watch for FREE! So enjoy wasting all that cash! As for me, 1 laptop, 1 s-video cable and 1 hdtv does the trick | |
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| AmirDaTSME
join:2008-06-16 | Re: Terabytes does not equal food u said it buddy  lol ..... | |
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Qoiz
join:2005-06-26
·Cox HSI
| nice and flashy the raw numbers are impressive and insane compared to ours, but for most people it is ridiculously unneccesary. I would NEVER in my life need 1gb per sec, my 5mb/sec line is more than I will ever need. guess mega downloaders and uploaders with lots of family members and pc's would have a ball though huh?
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FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA | Re: nice and flashy You say that now...
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | What's the oversubscription ratio? I'm not going to downplay that the link speed is impressive, but what's the actual edge:core oversubscription ratio? | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: What's the oversubscription ratio? They wouldn't get 1Gbps to spam us (as in the United States) with though- the transpacific fiber-optic cables can't sustain those kinds of speeds. | |
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stuckinjapan2
@nttmil.net
| This article isn't completely true I would like to remind everyone who "wishes" they lived in Japan that our military men and women stuck over here in Japan don't have access to all this great technology. We could have this technology in the U.S., but the powers that be are simply too greedy to allow it. In Japan most people are more concerned about staying honorable and becoming better, back in the U.S. we all care too much about getting results now and being selfish. Population density has very little to do with the issue of FTTH when you think about it. | |
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waffleburger
join:2008-08-22
Blairstown, NJ | why? Why would you need a 1 gbps connection? after 100 mbps it just seems like a waste. | |
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| Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | Re: why? It is all about time. 100mbps is about 9.5 MB/s (on a good day). GigE is 100+MB/s. Most current drives write 70MB/s (some are at 100 already) and it is easy to use raid to get 125MB/s. | |
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join:2007-07-17
| said by waffleburger :Why would you need a 1 gbps connection? after 100 mbps it just seems like a waste. psychological effect maybe. you have 1G versus 100M sounds better especially if you pay almost the same ammount. | |
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VZFbrSplicer
Premium
join:2005-07-03
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: Bleh. Japan obviously is looking towards the future. Plain and simple, if the bandwidth is available and there is a market for products that can take advantage of the bandwidth, people will package it and sell it. I can name many products that haven't taken off because of bandwidth limitations.
Most of the things that we now get on DVD or CD could easily be transported to us quickly over a pipe that large. There are many people that love the convenience factor (myself included) that would love to have a service that could essentially eliminate the need to have hard copies for copyrighted materials such as movies/games/software apps as well as the other streaming apps like HD IPTV and the works...the possibilities are endless!
"If you build it, they will come"
"Field of Dreams" | |
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Pashune
Inhaling at 410 KB per sec.
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Gautier, MS | Re: Bleh. Amen. | |
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tmh
@comcast.net | Way behind I'm still waiting for the 6/2 service I've been paying Comcast for the past year now.
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Dino
@pacbell.net | 1GBS Yes Please Where do I sign up | |
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hdtvtechno22
join:2008-08-22
Chicago, IL | Iceing on the cake.. WOW.. where do i sign up.. ? | |
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