Symmetrical FiOS Business Lines Available $99 with two-year contract... Users in our FiOS forum give us a heads up to note that symmetrical 15Mbps FiOS service for businesses (or folks who just like unblocked ports and the ability to run servers) is now available. According to Verizon's website, you can now get symmetrical 15Mbps FiOS (dynamic IP, no SLA, two-year contract required) for $99.99. The residential version of that tier is $64.99 with a one-year contract if you bundle services. On the residential front, users note that not all FiOS markets are created equal. Verizon has offered some markets 5Mbps/2Mbps, 15Mbps/2Mbps and 30Mbps/5Mbps tiers, while other markets see 10Mbps/2Mbps, 20Mbps/5Mbps, and 50Mbps/5Mbps speeds. Everyone will ultimately see the latter, and users in those markets say they're starting to see website changes indicating they're coming.
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  Jerm
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Richland, WA
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1 edit | Not bad... Makes me wonder at what point Verizon will say "only small business" as that works out to a T3 for $300/month if you were to bond three lines.
Oh well doesn't matter as Fios isn't comming to me anytime soon that I can tell and I'm *in* Verizon territory! | |
|  |  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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| Re: Not bad... said by Jerm:Makes me wonder at what point Verizon will say "only small business" as that works out to a T3 for $300/month if you were to bond three lines. The single dynamic IP would tend to rule out the service for most large businesses. If you're a business that's looking to buy that quantity of transport, you most likely want to route a netblock or two of your own. | |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | Nice deal I wonder what the bundled services are? Running a website at home would be pretty cool  | |
| | | | Re: Nice deal said by axus: Running a website at home would be pretty cool Trust me, it gets old really fast. Dealing with all the script kiddies is a pain in the rear, even running a Linux box. I decided to let a service provider deal with it. | |
| | |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Nice deal said by travelguy:said by axus: Running a website at home would be pretty cool Trust me, it gets old really fast. Dealing with all the script kiddies is a pain in the rear, even running a Linux box. I decided to let a service provider deal with it. Agreed. You can get a LOT more for a LOT less money.
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| | | |  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | Re: Nice deal said by Matt:said by travelguy:said by axus: Running a website at home would be pretty cool Trust me, it gets old really fast. Dealing with all the script kiddies is a pain in the rear, even running a Linux box. I decided to let a service provider deal with it. Agreed. You can get a LOT more for a LOT less money. I agree X3. There is no way you can run a server in your home better than a datacenter for half the price.
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| | | | | | | Re: Nice deal said by Tzale:I agree X3. There is no way you can run a server in your home better than a datacenter for half the price. -Tzale i dont....im running a forum with 1600 members and we share 40gigs of files.....the specs and bandwith i use would cost me like 100$(for a ded server) a month at an isp. but im paying ool an extra $15 to be able to host severs. 15>100. not to mention i can install anything i want, and if there is an issue i can fix it then having to wait. | |
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NYC Metro | Re: Nice deal said by user3657:said by Tzale:I agree X3. There is no way you can run a server in your home better than a datacenter for half the price. -Tzale i dont....im running a forum with 1600 members and we share 40gigs of files.....the specs and bandwith i use would cost me like 100$(for a ded server) a month at an isp. but im paying ool an extra $15 to be able to host severs. 15>100. not to mention i can install anything i want, and if there is an issue i can fix it then having to wait. Note that I said "BETTER." There is no way your OOL line can compete with a data center.... However, I do admit you can certainly do it... I know I have in the past, but it's not the best setup. What site are you running? Interested in checking it out.
-Tzale
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| | | | | | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by user3657:said by Tzale:I agree X3. There is no way you can run a server in your home better than a datacenter for half the price. -Tzale i dont....im running a forum with 1600 members and we share 40gigs of files.....the specs and bandwith i use would cost me like 100$(for a ded server) a month at an isp. but im paying ool an extra $15 to be able to host severs. 15>100. not to mention i can install anything i want, and if there is an issue i can fix it then having to wait. For something informal, you are right. But Tzale  added a very important qualifier, "BETTER" ...
Sure, your uptime is probably good ... but a datacenter offers multiple redundant network paths, conditioned air (cooled and at the proper humidity), conditioned power, and battery/diesel backup.
The network is also typically one hop away from multiple Tier-1 providers and doesn't have to pass through a "Best Effort" last mile network.
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join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 |  15/15 for $100/month a great business deal
According to Verizon's website, you can now get symmetrical 15Mbps FiOS (if you bundle services and sign a two-year contract) for $99.99. For a business that is a great deal. Especially for coffee shops, restaurants, car dealers, or any small business that wants to throw on a WiFi router and provide their customers fast access. And it is even enough for schools and libraries who need to provide computer access that is fast, yet still inexpensive.
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| | | Static Shock The attached JPG says those prices are for dynamic IPs - does anyone know the prices for static, or if static IPs are even definitely going to be available? | |
| | | | Re: Static Shock I just called them, and they said I could get 15/15 static biz fios in Flower Mound, TX. for 139.00/mo | |
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join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA | Smokin' deal I pay $160 a month for biz COVAD Wireless 3000/3000 and it's sucks serious ass. And I only pay that "cheap" because I signed up when they were Nextweb. Since then Covad has cut speeds of that plan by 80%.
Unfortunately neither Time Warner or Verizon (with FiOS) have deployed in our large business 'hood. FiOS is available nearly everywhere else around in town. Grrrrrr.
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| |  BillPremium,VIP
join:2001-12-09 | Re: Smokin' deal You got a nice deal. We signed up within the last month and we're paying $499 for the 3/3 plan in Cypress. | |
| | | DotMac4Shill H8rPremium
join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Smokin' deal Nextweb was "okay" but ever since Covad took over they suck royal. I'm seriously considering going back to 768/128 ADSL. | |
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| Ulmo
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1 edit | I just did the consumer math I had business class (my Autonomous System and IP range advertised to Internet) with a whopping 14,400bps (symmetrical modem) -- with the note that I was paying for the 28,800bps service at the time (but didn't feel like buying a 28,800bps modem), in 1996-1997, for $150/month or so, and a backup ISP for about $50 a month (I forget the exact amount), plus the phone lines which were each $10 or so a month (I had a CLEC for most my phone lines). Well, using the 28,800 number, I doubled it each year for the next 10 years, and guess what number I got? 29,491,200bps. That's a little bit close to the 30,000,000bps inbound in their chart for the same price ($199/month with 2 year contract). Both had no SLA that was worth anything.
Note that in fact the 30,000,000 is not symmetrical. A better comparison might be to their 15,000,000 service, which is, according to my "doubling every year at same price point" discovery and theory, a year behind. Furthermore, would they advertise my ASN for the same price? Or is that more?
Anyway, just a nice comparison to see the consumer price index for bandwidth speeds: approximately doubling every year.
Let's see if that's true for my current service here in deathstar land:
2004 6mbps in, 604kbps out (Sonic.net AT&T DSL)
2007 6mbps-20mbps in, 500kbps-1mbps out (Comcast floaters)
So, double 6m is 12m (2005 -- did not have), double 12m is 24m (2006 -- did not have), and double 24m is 48mbps (2007 -- do not have). However, in the market I was for the above comparison, 50mbps assymetrical is available.
So, yeah, it's basically doubling in the markets that follow the trends. In the deathstar markets, it's at what, half the rate? | |
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1 edit | Re: I just did the consumer math said by Ulmo:So, yeah, it's basically doubling in the markets that follow the trends. In the deathstar markets, it's at what, half the rate? Not even that. The best that they can deliver to you (and
the NSA) is 6Mbps/1Mbps UVerse. And to think that they call it
fiber. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
But then considering that the only other major choice
is Time Warner Cable (Roadrunner), and that I had severe
connectivity problems with them, I'll take it.
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layer9Premium
join:2007-02-18
Front Royal, VA | Its NOT business The only thing "business" about this service other than maybe a higher tier of technical support, is the price.
It is completely unusable to any business, small, medium or large, who want to offer any kind of web enabled services.
Its the "dynamic IP".That sounds great, but what its designed to do is keep businesses from actually using their service for anything else other than "surfing the net". And what business makes its living off their employee's, surfing the net?
The Dynamic IP is designed to curtail any real business use of the circuit. At least if they offered a single static IP, small businesses could port forward. Dynamic IPs make it pretty much impossible to offer any real web-based services. Companies who want to offer their own services to employee's or customers are not going to be able to use this service. Therefore to call it a "business" service is misnomer. Unless of course your business makes its money off your employee's playing Call of Duty on line.
When FIOS is offered with static IPs and the ability to at least purchase additional blocks, even at a premium, then they will have Business Class FIOS. But for now, all they have is residential service that they charge businesses more to use. | |
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| Re: Its NOT business said by layer9: Dynamic IPs make it pretty much impossible to offer any real web-based services. I've been running various servers since '97 or '98, always on a DHCP or PPPoE line. Just need to use a dynamic IP to DNS service. Of course, that might not be good enough for a business, but it does work. | |
| | | layer9Premium
join:2007-02-18
Front Royal, VA | Re: Its NOT business You're right.
Home user workarounds are not "good enough" for a business.
The port limitations due to the single IP limit the standard port usages.
We're fully aware of these SOHO work arounds like port forwarding in conjunction with Dynamic DNS. That's why I mentioned it, which you'll see if you go back and re-read the comment.
But you were correct in stating that these SOHO work arounds are not sufficient for any real business needs.
These are NOT "Business Class Circuits" and Verizon is not offering a true Business Service. They're offering a Residential service and charging more money for it by calling it a business service. | |
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| TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | said by layer9:The only thing "business" about this service other than maybe a higher tier of technical support, is the price. It is completely unusable to any business, small, medium or large, who want to offer any kind of web enabled services. Its the "dynamic IP".That sounds great, but what its designed to do is keep businesses from actually using their service for anything else other than "surfing the net". And what business makes its living off their employee's, surfing the net? The Dynamic IP is designed to curtail any real business use of the circuit. At least if they offered a single static IP, small businesses could port forward. Dynamic IPs make it pretty much impossible to offer any real web-based services. Companies who want to offer their own services to employee's or customers are not going to be able to use this service. Therefore to call it a "business" service is misnomer. Unless of course your business makes its money off your employee's playing Call of Duty on line. When FIOS is offered with static IPs and the ability to at least purchase additional blocks, even at a premium, then they will have Business Class FIOS. But for now, all they have is residential service that they charge businesses more to use. Plenty of businesses would be fine without a static IP... A lot of businesses just need a fast connection for downloading / uploading files from their remote server in a data center or to other businesses... Not to mention the availability of DNS redirection services, though that might appear unprofessional.
-Tzale
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| | tlcbob
join:2001-07-11
Harrisburg, PA | Actually, I checked into it last year and at that time, the business FIOS had a CSR (up-time) guarantee of something like 99.95%. That was the main distinguishing factor from home service. Also, as I recall, the fixed IP addresses were not expensive. | |
| | | | I have had Business FiOS since the fiber plant was turned over to provisioning in my neighboorhood. 99 bux/mo gets me a STATIC /29 and 15/2.. I am calling to see if they can upgrade me yet.. My biggest bitch right now is that the rippoffs want to CHARGE for more IP's. If I had a freakin T1 with them I could have a /24 if I could justify it. I need a /28.
I should not have to pay for it... | |
| | |  kontosxyzzy
join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY | Re: Its NOT business said by unixwolf: I need a /28. I should not have to pay for it... I need a new car... | |
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL | Static IP What do the prices look like for static IP? | |
| | | | Re: Static IP said by benc:What do the prices look like for static IP? I have 5/30 business service FIOS with 13 static IP addresses for $160/month. | |
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tron3
join:2007-12-03
New York, NY | hmm wow... I just finished an onsite tech support job in downtown brooklyn around court st and the client had free fios 30/15 included in the rent, not bad for under 2 grand in a 1 bedroom apt, doorman building. Can't wait till it gets up to north brooklyn  | |
| | robertflPremium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | Re: hmm wow... and in the meantime the rest of us get shitted on.
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| said by tron3:I just finished an onsite tech support job in downtown brooklyn around court st and the client had free fios 30/15 included in the rent, not bad for under 2 grand in a 1 bedroom apt, doorman building. Can't wait till it gets up to north brooklyn How does someone get 30/15 in NY? the 30mbit tier is non-existent for residential (there was a grandfathered 30/5 before cablevision decided to do *BOOST*).. it's 10/2, 20/5, 20/20, 50/20 in NY metro... must be Verizon's version of lets make a deal..
Maybe they should revamp this to.. 15/15 (competes with 15/2), 30/30 (competes with 30/5), 50/50 (...can't touch this, oh my lawd) $40, 50, $100 (+ 25% for business--tos freebie of getting to run servers, +$5 unbundled & screw contracts, these prices sell themselves)
Their nearest competitor, Cablevision isn't gonna touch upstream speeds above 10mbits, it takes too costly of upgrades to get near the upstream limits of docsis 2.0 (node de-saturization)
Of course it's a double-edged sword.. speeds have gone up (particularly upstream) but so have the prices..
Long term contract aren't a particularly helpful thing either. With all these speed/price/term changes they have a hodge-podge of offerings.. eventually they will have to homogenize them. | |
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|  PetDudePremium,ExMod 2001-10
join:2001-02-20
Annapolis, MD | Get Your Static IP Right Here A single static IP is available on the same service for an additional $40, according to their website. It looks from posts above, that more statics are available for a price.
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New York, NY | Is anyone near Huntington Beach, CA getting this? And using it to feed a low-cost data center!?
PM me, if yes! | |
|  wruckman Ruckman.net
join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH | Nice! Too bad this only lists the dynamic IP packages. But the speeds are estounding and the price as well!
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| | | Whining Its pathetic, speeds like this in Canada, are a pipe dream, we can hope for a 5-6 meg DSL line for business. Speeds like FIOS would cost thousands a month in Canada (aside from the very few spots that have ADSL2, and I mean VERY few) | |
|  macyhEx-IspPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-24
Medina, OH
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| Why, oh why, did I move out of FIOS territory? Got FIOS? You're doing better than most. This 15/15 deal sounds pretty decent to me.
I had FIOS 6/768 for 2+ years at my house in Tampa and it worked quite well for $35/mo. Like an idiot, I had to move back to Ohio. Now I'm stuck fighting with a flaky connections from a cable company with no ADSL available.
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