TDS Telecom Expands VDSL Footprint Pushing 25/5 Mbps tier into 13 additional states Last month TDS Telecom announced that the company was now offering a new VDSL2-based broadband tier that offers 25 Mbps downstream and 5 Mbps upstream for $70 a month in seven states, including Georgia, Indiana, Michigan, New Hampshire, Vermont, Tennessee and Wisconsin. During the first quarter of this year, TDS plans to expand this VDSL2 deployment into 13 additional states, reaching subscribers across hundreds of nodes embedded in nearly 150 networks. Ken Paker, vice president of network services at TDS Telecom, tells Fierce Telecom that they're very pleased with the technology's performance so far. "Some of the previous DSL technologies I think had a tendency to be oversold, but it looks like in the case of VDSL2 it was what we expected," Paker said insists. TDS also offers FTTH service, but only in Monticello, Minnesota, a move prompted by municipal fiber deployments.
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2 edits | Not competitive. At 25/5 for 70 dollars, cable is going to eat their lunch. Especially with DOCSIS 3
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Uverse type systems because they make a lot of sense. Shorten loop lengths and use existing copper. The price is just not competitive.
If telco's want this strategy to work, they need to market themselves on price because the Cable Co's will offer slightly faster speeds at slightly less money. | |
|  | | | | | | Re: Not competitive. I know about TDS in Madison, WI. They have charter as competition on the West side. UVerse is available on the East side. This service from TDS is a good option there. | |
| | | | | | Re: Not competitive. TDS often comes to Chicago to hire new college graduates or interns from there  | |
| | | | | | I wish i could get their service here!!! 25/5 would be great. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Not competitive. It would be a tough sell since if you read the TDS ToS on their site "excessive bandwidth use" is anything over 50 GB per month. At 25/5 = 30 mbits that is only about four hours at full speed. | |
| | | | | | | | Re: Not competitive. yea that cap would be a killer for a lot of people. Especially with a lot of stuff going to streaming now. | |
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| | | | | | How well will this work on the antique copper we have around here? I swear Alexander Graham Bell himself installed the wire around this area.
Maybe the money should be spent towards line upgrade and maintenance that would affect the majority of people before giving a select few faster speeds.
I can literally see the Michigan State Capitol from my front window and I have a hard time getting any type high speed internet. I am lucky that my 1/400 from TDS works half the time due to crappy line quality. It sounds like Rice Krispies on my phone line, and that is after they replaced everything from my house to the neighborhood switchbox, it was worse before. The problem is between the CO and my neighborhood and I doubt it will ever get fixed. | |
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| Re: Not competitive. said by neonturbo: I swear Alexander Graham Bell himself installed the wire around this area. LOL
said by neonturbo:It sounds like Rice Krispies on my phone line
LOL again
Best post in a long time neonturbo. Its a sad reality for a lot of people. Awesome post. | |
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| said by DataRiker:At 25/5 for 70 dollars, cable is going to eat their lunch. Especially with DOCSIS 3
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Uverse type systems because they make a lot of sense. Shorten loop lengths and use existing copper. The price is just not competitive.
If telco's want this strategy to work, they need to market themselves on price because the Cable Co's will offer slightly faster speeds at slightly less money.
$70 for 5M upstream is quite competitive, and if it doesn't float your boat, pick the $35 15/2 plan. We'll have to see what real-world rates they choose to deliver at peak hours, but DSL can outperform typical cable easily, if they want to.
Telco can win on customer service, billing, repair, speed - if they want to. Good to see at least some telcos are trying to make something more of the existing copper and remain relevant. | |
| | | | | Re: Not competitive. said by elray:$70 for 5M upstream is quite competitive, and if it doesn't float your boat, pick the $35 15/2 plan. We'll have to see what real-world rates they choose to deliver at peak hours, but DSL can outperform typical cable easily, if they want to.
Telco can win on customer service, billing, repair, speed - if they want to. Good to see at least some telcos are trying to make something more of the existing copper and remain relevant.
So why isn't Verizon doing it?
FIOS is never, ever coming to my area, and VZ keeps calling me trying to get me to switch to their blazing fast (1.5 Mbps) DSL... :-\
The math whiz's that call even try to convince me their 1.5 Mbps connection is *faster* than my 15/2 cable modem... duh... :-(
If they offered something *competitive* I'd switch. What don't these morons understand about that? | |
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| Re: Not competitive. said by jazzlady:said by elray:Telco can win on customer service, billing, repair, speed - if they want to. Good to see at least some telcos are trying to make something more of the existing copper and remain relevant.
So why isn't Verizon doing it? FIOS is never, ever coming to my area, and VZ keeps calling me trying to get me to switch to their blazing fast (1.5 Mbps) DSL... :-\ The math whiz's that call even try to convince me their 1.5 Mbps connection is *faster* than my 15/2 cable modem... duh... :-( If they offered something *competitive* I'd switch. What don't these morons understand about that? Verizon is a large company covering a lot of diverse territory. Their deployment strategy and rationale will vary accordingly, and no, they will never tell you.
They ARE deploying competitive options all across the country, including ADSL2/ADSL2+ - though you might not benefit without bonded pair (not offered) at your distance.
How exactly do you know that FIOS isn't coming, if you consider they didn't "abandon" you to Frontier?
If I were you, I would at least write an old-fashioned letter to Seidenberg and let him know of my concerns. Its worked for me in the past - you'll get real intelligent life forms in the corporate office who will at the very least, listen comprehensively and not try to bedazzle you with 1.5Mbps. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Not competitive. said by elray:said by jazzlady:said by elray:Telco can win on customer service, billing, repair, speed - if they want to. Good to see at least some telcos are trying to make something more of the existing copper and remain relevant.
So why isn't Verizon doing it? FIOS is never, ever coming to my area, and VZ keeps calling me trying to get me to switch to their blazing fast (1.5 Mbps) DSL... :-\ If they offered something *competitive* I'd switch. What don't these morons understand about that? Verizon is a large company covering a lot of diverse territory. They ARE deploying competitive options all across the country, including ADSL2/ADSL2+ - though you might not benefit without bonded pair (not offered) at your distance. How exactly do you know that FIOS isn't coming... If I were you, I would at least write an old-fashioned letter to Seidenberg and let him know of my concerns. Its worked for me in the past - you'll get real intelligent life forms in the corporate office who will at the very least, listen comprehensively and not try to bedazzle you with 1.5Mbps. FIOS is not coming to this area. I've spoken to VZ, as have several others I know, and this is what we've been told not only by customer service, but by the repair guys I've stopped and spoken to.
I guess there's just not enough ROI for them to roll it out here. They also wouldn't be able to bury the fiber here, too rocky. They would have to string it on poles, and I don't know if they could even do that.
The Pocono's is a very economically depressed area, despite what the tourist bureau wants people to believe. No jobs, soaring foreclosure rate, staggeringly high property taxes, and very high crime rates. I'll be dead before we ever see FIOS here, for sure.
As for writing a letter, I guess I could do that. It probably won't do any good, but like chicken soup- it couldn't hurt.  | |
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| | | said by DataRiker:At 25/5 for 70 dollars, cable is going to eat their lunch. Especially with DOCSIS 3
If telco's want this strategy to work, they need to market themselves on price because the Cable Co's will offer slightly faster speeds at slightly less money.
Depends on where you live...
I pay $60 for 15/2, with a 50 GB monthly cap.
That 25/5 is one sweet deal AFAIC. | |
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| Some wrong info where. The Monticello MN deployment was not prompted by municipal fiber. TDS was already putting down FTTH and Monticello decided to put its own down next to TDS. It all went to court and TDS lost.
Monticello is the central hub for Minnesota's network for TDS, so it made sense to run FTTH there.
TDS has some old copper that needs work, but they do have plans to repair or replace.
TDS has one of the best networks I have used.
I know all of this since I worked for TDS for 1 year. They are a great company to work for also. | |
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| taking the next step... the upstream will have to get better... 5:1 is terrible ratio.. not as bad as the cableco's 7:1 ratio.... but still.. there will have to be a transition of vdsl to either hfc (coax) or fttp (ont) development. the longest possible run of a end-user fttp cable is 500 feet.. if telcos need to further build out that last mile... then they better get started.. 25mbits should be entry level broadband speeds for 2011... not mid tiered at over $50...
if these telcos & cablecos dont' compete.. docsis 3 will wither on the vine.. going on 3 years after initial deployment (2008-2011) | |
| | | | Re: taking the next step... My ratio on RR Turbo is almost 20:1 (15mbps/.75mbps) | |
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| I would buy in a HEARTBEAT! TDS, bring that out to my area in Wisconsin and I will take it!!!! We need it. PLEASE come compete with AT&T!!!!!
I'm all giddy.....
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