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As carrier launches the first Motorola Android phone
09:03AM Friday Sep 11 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: coverage · business · wireless · bandwidth · T-Mobile US
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Earlier this week we noted how T-Mobile's quickly playing catch up with 3G network coverage after a late start. The carrier this week also announced Motorola's first Android Phone (The Cliq) during which, T-Mobile's Chief Technology Officer Cole Brodman detailed further 3G rollout plans for 2009 and 2010. By the end of 2009, T-Mobile is not only planning to match ATT's 7.2mbps HSDPA rollout with its own, but intends on overtaking ATT with a 21mbps HSDPA rollout beginning in 2010. It's not clear when T-Mobile plans to officially make the jump to LTE, which AT&T says they'll start deploying in 2011. Combined with news that T-Mobile's European parent company Deutsche Telekom is planning on massive investments in the U.S., it appears that T-Mobile's suiting up for battle.

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furlonium
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21?

I get 1.5mbps now on tmo's 3G if I'm lucky. Not complaining, but I doubr we'll really see 21.
dlewis23

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Re: 21?

said by furlonium See Profile :

I get 1.5mbps now on tmo's 3G if I'm lucky. Not complaining, but I doubr we'll really see 21.
Of course you will never see 21 Mbps. In the real world you will probably see around 10 - 14 Mbps, maybe 15 Mbps.

On 7.2 Mbps you will see around 4 - 5 Mbps. But anything really over 7 Mbps isn't really going to make much of a difference on a phone.

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Re: 21?

said by dlewis23 See ProfileBut anything really over 7 Mbps isn't really going to make much of a difference on a phone.


famous last words.
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said by dlewis23 See Profile :

said by furlonium See Profile :

I get 1.5mbps now on tmo's 3G if I'm lucky. Not complaining, but I doubr we'll really see 21.
Of course you will never see 21 Mbps. In the real world you will probably see around 10 - 14 Mbps, maybe 15 Mbps.
More like 21 mbps per tower divided among all customers on it and all customers have full bars.

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Re: 21?

i get around 5mbps most times on my g1 in chicago.
dlewis23

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Re: 21?

said by bender See Profile :

i get around 5mbps most times on my g1 in chicago.
No you don't. T-mobile uses 3.6 Mbps HSPA in all its markets. Which means the real world Max is around 2.5 Mbps if your lucky.

If you are using something like opera browser to do a speed test, its not accurate because the test is run on the web browsers servers not on the phone.

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Re: 21?

no i have a speedtest app on my phone. xtremelabs speedtest. and my bad. i looked at the history on it and it said that that was on wifi. my fastest speedtest on mobile data was 750 KBps down and 150Kbps up. I get the same speeds on EDGE according to that program too. I get a stronger EDGE signal where I live than the occasional 3g. which is all the same as far as I am concerned I don't notice the difference.

sorry about that.
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Re: 21?

Your speedtest program is broken.

EDGE's theoretical maximum speed is 238.6kbps (see »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_D···volution). So you can't even get 750kbps on EDGE, let alone 750KBps.

HSDPA can do 750kbps pretty easily; I routinely see that.

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Re: 21?

what probably happened is it switched from 3g to edge in the middle of the test.

tiger72
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They just need to get the backhauls up to support it. Hopefully for them, they won't make the mistake that ATT did.

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said by furlonium See Profile :

I get 1.5mbps now on tmo's 3G if I'm lucky. Not complaining, but I doubr we'll really see 21.
Does anyone anywhere ever see 7.2mbps on AT&T?

furlonium
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Re: 21?

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said by furlonium See Profile :

I get 1.5mbps now on tmo's 3G if I'm lucky. Not complaining, but I doubr we'll really see 21.
Does anyone anywhere ever see 7.2mbps on AT&T?
I'm not on ATT; I don't know. I know I don't see even 3-4mbps now.
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I'm in NJ and I have the iphone 3GS, I'm not sure that 7.2 is even deployed here.

my best speeds came in at about 1500/360 which while not 3.6 or 7.2 in all honestly is not shabby for wireless internet

my average speed is more like 600/200 which is definately usable,
but I do get the feeling that it might be able to do more if the backhaul wasn't congested
dlewis23

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7.2 Mbps has yet to be deployed yet to the general customer. I have seen several 7.2 mbps speed tests, and they average 4 - 5 Mbps with some going just below 6 Mbps.

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Big deal

21Mbps at what, $5.99 per MB? So this is just a way for you to run up your bill faster.

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Re: Big deal

21Mb/s would be great. Raise the caps too. Give us unlimited and charge reasonably and you got a winner. Give us stupid high speed and cap the transfers so we can barely use it without running against the limit in the first 2 days of the month and you will lose. It's not that hard to grasp. C'mon T-Mobile. Stay focused and don't fall into the ATT/VZW/Sprint trap. Differentiate yourself in the marketplace and you'll get the business. Do what they do, and you'll get what they've got. A bunch of pissed off customers who can't wait for their contract to run so they can switch. Then when they land at a new carrier, they won't order the high-end data plan. Watch your big investment go *POOF*.
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Probably the same caps as everyone else, just at much higher speeds.

Or they might not cap, who knows? 21 mbps HSPA+ is a relatively efficient technology and T-Mobile now has some AWS spectrum to play with.

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said by Camelot One See Profile :

21Mbps at what, $5.99 per MB? So this is just a way for you to run up your bill faster.
huh?

They don't charge per mb. Hell they don't even charge overages when you hit their 10GB cap.

You're thinking Verizon.
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It can be unlimited.

If you're grandfathered in (like me) you get unlimited internet for 20$ a month.
There is no cap on my account, I commonly hit 30-40 gigs transfer a month and have seen as high as 80.

Can you hear me now ?

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catch up is fun

As a T-Mobile subscriber, I'm happy to hear that their 3g deployment is finally here and that they are already planning for 21mbps HSDPA! Great news.
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Re: catch up is fun

said by morbo See Profile :

As a T-Mobile subscriber, I'm happy to hear that their 3g deployment is finally here and that they are already planning for 21mbps HSDPA! Great news.
same here.. pretty nice to finally see them step up to the plate

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3g

They need to expand before they upgrade, they are in so few markets when it comes to the 3G.

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Re: 3g

Here are cities/metros where 3G has launched this year:

* Nashville, TN
* Knoxville, TN
* Bridgeport, CT
* Hartford, CT
* New Haven, CT
* Waterbury, CT
* Augusta, GA
* Richmond County, GA
* Conyers, GA
* Port Arthur, TX
* Alvin, TX
* Algoa, TX
* Manvel, TX
* Magnolia, TX
* Nashville, TN
* Champaign, IL
* Rockford, IL
* Springfield, IL
* Henderson, NV
* Wichita Falls, TX
* Galveston, TX
* Lubbock, TX
* Beaumont, TX
* Bryan, TX
* College Station, TX
* Des Moines, IA
* Colorado Springs, CO
* Pueblo, CO
* Indianapolis, IN
* Salem, OR
* Eugene, OR
* Columbus, OH
* Lakeland, FL
* Daytona Beach, FL
* Mesa, AZ
* Peoria, AZ
* Scottsdale, AZ
* Tucson, AZ
* Shreveport, LA
* Springfield, MA
* Manchester, NH
* Portland, ME
* Athens, GA
* Brownsville, TX
* Corpus Christi, TX
* Laredo, TX
* McAllen, TX
* Reno, NV
* Cleveland, OH
* Akron, OH
* Ann Arbor, MI
* Lansing, MI
* Toledo, OH
* Cape Coral, FL
* Wichita, KS
* Tacoma, WA
* Columbus, GA
* Charlottesville, VA
* Hampton, VA
* Richmond, VA
* Norfolk, VA
* Virginia Beach, VA
* Portsmouth, VA
* El Paso, TX
* Allentown, PA
* Buffalo, NY
* Rochester, NY
* Syracuse, NY
* Bakersfield, CA
* Palm Springs, CA
* Santa Clarita, CA
* Simi Valley, CA
* Thousand Oaks, CA
* Lake Charles, LA
* Milwaukee, WI
* Chattanooga, TN
* Jacksonville, FL
* St. Louis, MO
* Spokane, WA
* Augusta, GA
* Richmond County, GA
* Bridgeport, CT
* Hartford, CT
* New Haven, CT
* Waterbury, CT

That's in addition to the cities launched in 2008: Atlanta, Austin, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, Orlando, Fla., Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, and Seattle.

frustratedug

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I cannot even get EDGE where I live. 2 miles south has 3g, its very annoying that tmobile hasnt even updated our towers to edge much less 3g and yet the small town below me has it.

podstolom

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Crank it up. And put better browsers on the WinMo phones when you put 21 Mbs HSPA chips in them. PIE stinks at any speed.

pe733pe34803

@northwestern.edu

Re: Go T-Mo!!!

Just download Skyfire. Done.

NathanG

@comcast.net

Re: Go T-Mo!!!

Yeah but besides the HTC Touch Pro2 no device will run Skyfire via 3G on T-Mobile. I had the Shadow (1st gen) and I loved SkyFire.
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