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| |  m37
@wideopenwest.com | Re: Unlimited Data And there it goes with the iPhone. Damm it! | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Some speculation about the deal The AT&T (A1428) iPhone 5 already supports the band that T-Mobile will use for LTE (AWS). So, with the refarmed HSPA+ coming online in many markets (TMo has announced 15 but many more are in progress) the iPhone will work better on TMo than AT&T.
My bet is that the iPhone actually launches on T-Mobile about the same time that T-Mobile turns on LTE. At that point they'll have plenty of refarmed markets for when LTE isn't available, but I'm guessing that LTE will be available in many markets at once due to the upgrades TMo has been making for DC-HSPA+ etc. | |
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|  LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | TMO CEO confirms the iPhone and iPad are part of the deal. He also claims he didn't get sucked in to a big upfront commitment like Sprint did. He also says that LTE rollout will be sped up significantly.
»news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57557···1_3-0-20
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 camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA | Take it back T mobiles network is crap already now, this is going to make a crappy network even worse then they can keep it. | |
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|  a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
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| Re: Take it back How so? People in NYC already see 8 -9 mbps on DC-HSPA+ equipment, during peak hours, and upwards of 20 Mbps during off-peak hours. I am on a HSPA 14.4 Mbps device, and even I routinely see 3 - 5 Mbps during daytime, and close to 8 or 9 Mbps during nighttime... hardly a crap network. I would concede that coverage is worse outside major cities and highway corridors, but then again, large-scale coverage hasn't really been T-mobile's focus... it's a carrier geared towards those who need a good network near population centers. BTW, multiple studies have been done so far, and the consensus is that iPhones actually consume less data on average than Android phones... not to mention, over half of T-mo's data traffic right now is streaming video... their network is over-engineered and lightly loaded as it is... adding 20 MHz LTE and HSPA+ on PCS will only make things better, even with a bunch of iPhones on the network
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| Re: Take it back said by a333:How so? People in NYC already see 8 -9 mbps on DC-HSPA+ equipment, during peak hours, and upwards of 20 Mbps during off-peak hours. I am on a HSPA 14.4 Mbps device, and even I routinely see 3 - 5 Mbps during daytime, and close to 8 or 9 Mbps during nighttime... hardly a crap network. I would concede that coverage is worse outside major cities and highway corridors, but then again, large-scale coverage hasn't really been T-mobile's focus... it's a carrier geared towards those who need a good network near population centers. BTW, multiple studies have been done so far, and the consensus is that iPhones actually consume less data on average than Android phones... not to mention, over half of T-mo's data traffic right now is streaming video... their network is over-engineered and lightly loaded as it is... adding 20 MHz LTE and HSPA+ on PCS will only make things better, even with a bunch of iPhones on the network
Few of my friends have T Mobile I have VZW I been doing speedtests just for fun her HTC One S or one V I forgot exact name hit 18 mbps on HSPA+ with unlimited that is more the enough... and I am on Verizon however their unlimited plan is like 90$ I pay 70$ for each phone on family plan with verizon not switching anytime soon though. | |
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| | camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA Reviews:
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| said by a333: I would concede that coverage is worse outside major cities and highway corridors.
Hence my argument, I refuse to pay out of my ass for Verizon (which does have the best coverage no argument there).
So now my bill is going to go up in the next 6 months to a year because T mobile is getting desperate to turn a bigger profit so instead of trying to improve the network to bring in newer customers from areas they never served instead of trying this. I know I am living in a pipe dream but one can dream. | |
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| | |  trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: Take it back I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile soon but it really comes down to coverage. I have Verizon now and I hate them. I can't even make reliable phone calls in my own home on my cell phone because as they say, I'm in a "marginal signal area".
I'm in a city! Cleveland, Ohio. Is that not a big enough city to get decent coverage? I guess not. They admit that they need to install a new tower in the area but they say that they have absolutely no plans to do so.
I'm researching T-Mobile and come mid-2013, whoever has the best coverage is the company I'm switching the whole family to.
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| | | | | | Re: Take it back T-Mo wi-fi calling and UMA make a huge difference in low signal areas. I have wi-fi at home and work so I always have max reception there. No one else at work can even get a call out (steel frame building). | |
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| | |  IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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| said by camaro92:said by a333: I would concede that coverage is worse outside major cities and highway corridors.
Hence my argument, I refuse to pay out of my ass for Verizon (which does have the best coverage no argument there). So now my bill is going to go up in the next 6 months to a year because T mobile is getting desperate to turn a bigger profit so instead of trying to improve the network to bring in newer customers from areas they never served instead of trying this. I know I am living in a pipe dream but one can dream. I used to have AT&T (because VZW had spotty coverage in the area, as of 2004) but I am now back with Verizon (as of 2011) and I just got my iPhone 5 and that LTE connection is awesome.
If network extenders were available in 2004, I would have gone that route instead of switching to then Cingular (now AT&T). With LTE, I can't tell the difference of being on LTE or the Wi-Fi in my house (which is fed by a Comcast extreme 105). | |
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|  FastDSL
join:1999-08-22
Snellville, GA | said by camaro92: T mobiles network is crap already now, this is going to make a crappy network even worse then they can keep it.
Clearly, you have not had Sprint. | |
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Re: Take it back said by FastDSL:said by camaro92: T mobiles network is crap already now, this is going to make a crappy network even worse then they can keep it.
Clearly, you have not had Sprint. LOL! How True!
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| | camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA Reviews:
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| No sir, but in my neck of the woods every carrier save t mobile has awesome coverage sooo unless I move (which isn't practical of course) or I switch carriers again I wont. I have been a t mobile customer for god 12 years plus and in that time the price to coverage ratio was decent, so I guess my only choice is prepaid. | |
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| | | my unlimited 22mbps/4mbps hspa+ says otherwise | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: HD Voice... ...and faster LTE than AT&T (10MHz carriers with smaller cell sizes)...and unlimited data.
The only piece missing is rural coverage, and isn't TMo supposed to get a guaranteed roaming agreement from AT&T as a consequence of the failed merger? | |
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| |  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: HD Voice... Yes.
»www.ciscopress.com/articles/arti···=1830020
"AT&T says that in order to reflect the break-up considerations due to Deutsche Telekom, it will recognize a pretax accounting charge of $4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2011. Additionally, AT&T is obligated to enter into a long term roaming agreement with Deutsche Telekom. T-Mobile will receive a package of wireless frequencies from AT&T in 128 market areas, including Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Washington and San Francisco. The roaming deal will last at least seven years, and Deutsche Telekom says it will extend T-Mobile’s coverage to 50 million more potential customers."
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| | |  Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: HD Voice... So, does that mean I can get a T-Mobile phone and use it here without issues? | |
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| | | | Don't forget...taking a Verizon phone out of the country will cost you BIG money, both in voice and data charges. Tmo has superior coverage internationally and great pricing on voice/data when roaming. And, you get access to their WiFi hotspots. | |
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| | | | | Re: HD Voice... Don't forget WiFi Calling feature. I wonder if the T-Mo iPhone will have this feature. That'll be great. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: HD Voice... $5 says it won't. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | I wander what percentage of people on each respective carrier use their phones internationally. I know that, for a trip of more than a couple days (and maybe even then) I'd just get a cheap phone/prepaid plan in the country where I am. | |
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| Re: HD Voice... Don't know what the rates are today as it's been about 1.5 years since our company phones were on T-Mobile, but I do know that practically every country I visited in Europe, I was on the T-Mobile network, not roaming on someone else's. Using my T-Mo phone cost me a fraction of what AT&T or Verizon were at the time.
Asia, I can't remember, but I think I roamed a good bit while I was there.
We're on AT&T now and I've never been directly on an AT&T network abroad...always roamed on another network.
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|  GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 | Re: WHY???? Because of the herd mentality of the idiots. I think the Chinese are finally on to it. | |
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»www.tmonews.com/2012/12/t-mobile···in-2013/
T-mobile currently has 1.7 million Iphones on it's network currently.
Value plans still require a 2 year contract because you get cheaper pricing on your plan. So you'll be doing a BYOD or you can do a 20 month payment plan for your phone and pay full price. | |
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IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA Reviews:
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| I'll stick with Verizon I just bought my iPhone 5 this past Monday and the 4G LTE is nice. Much better than 3G on the iPhone 4 and things load a lot faster. Bus schedules load almost instantaneously. It's basically like a cable modem in your pocket. The old 3G on the iPhone 4 was more like DSL or dial-up.
It will be wait and see what iPhone has to offer in another 18 months when I can upgrade again. | |
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@comcastbusiness.net | Hmmmm So, Apple finally found a place to unload the surplus/refurb iPhone 4's that were hanging around. | |
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 tippboogieBad Boy 4 LifePremium
join:2001-12-13
Brooklyn, NY | Price Just wanted to know if they had to pay like sprint did ?
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
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| ARGH Why on earth does the article assume the T-Mobile iPhone won't have AWS HSPA+ support? It will if it's an official device for T-Mobile. It's not a technically difficult thing to do, it's just a matter of T-Mobile coughing up the money for the iPhone. | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Re: ARGH Exactly. The antennas and amps already have to be tuned for AWS, as the iPhone can do LTE over AWS in Chicago and Canada, and soon more of the US on AT&T. It's just software or firmware. | |
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camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA | Well.... in the end we all get screwed in some way or another so not a damn thing we can do except cancel service. | |
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|  tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: Well.... said by camaro92: in the end we all get screwed in some way or another so not a damn thing we can do except cancel service.
Amen to that. TMo is now just like the rest, only still number 4, right behind big red, blue and yellow stains  . | |
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|  Google Nexus 4 @ 349, vs. iPhone 4S @ 549?
Frankly, I think that Android is still quite buggy in many places, but, nonetheless, I still think that at 349$ for an unlocked Google Nexus 4 16GB with many unpolished features that are yet to be incorporated by Apple, vs 649$ for the iPhone 5 16GB, or 549$ for iPhone 4S 16GB (they finally sell non-latest model as unlocked, too? Well, that may end up being more competitive), I can't see just that many users choosing to go the Apple way.
Although it's certainly good Apple now sells even the iPhone 4 as unlocked (but with only 8GB), and for only 450$. It's still more expensive than a comparable Google Nexus 4 w/ 8GB @ 299$, but that's certainly better than having to pay the whole 649 just to get into the Apple camp.
Is it just me, or does it look like smartphone prices are finally going back into being competitive?
This is certainly a progress, and progress is always good! | |
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| | | Re: Google Nexus 4 @ 349, vs. iPhone 4S @ 549? Those are some good points and I will also like to point out is that once you upgrade your iphone you can always sell it and recoup some of the Iphone price. The sad part is you can't do that with most Android phones aside from the SG3 or X-one | |
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