T-Mobile Formally Launches LTE, New Pricing From the Wreckage of AT&T Deal Comes the 'Uncarrier' As expected, T-Mobile today took the wraps off of their LTE network and new no-contract pricing, even though most of the details were already leaked yesterday. At an event in New York City, T-Mobile formally announced that their shiny new LTE network has gone live in Baltimore; Houston; Kansas City; Las Vegas; Phoenix; San Jose, Calif.; and Washington, D.C. The company has stated that they hope to cover 100 million potential customers by the middle of 2013, with 200 million potential customers covered by the end of this year. T-Mobile has also officially announced that they're killing off contract plans. As discussed yesterday, the company's new base pricing offers users an new unlimited talk, text, and 500MB of data for $50 a month. An additional $20 nets users unlimited data, or users who want to use their phone as a mobile hotspot or modem can add $10 for every extra 2 GB of data. In addition to the already available BlackBerry Z10 and Galaxy Note II, T-Mobile today announced that they'll be offering the Galaxy S4 starting on May 1. They'll also begin offering the iPhone 5 starting on April 12, if users are willing to pay $100 down and an additional $20 per month for 24 months. Important note: you can't unlock any device under these plans until the device is paid off. It remains painfully unclear if United States consumers are ready for the death of the subsidy. Unsubsidized devices have not been selling well at Leap, though customers there need to pay the entire device cost up front. T-Mobile's approach may be more successful, given users may pay for for the device, but wind up paying less for data and services. Regardless, the moves collectively are part of what T-Mobile is calling its "uncarrier" strategy. Like subsidies, it's more than a little unclear if T-Mobile's moves are going to strengthen its competitive position in a sector dominated by AT&T and Verizon, with Sprint and its Japanese sugar daddy soon forging a trifecta of dominance and regulatory capture. "These bold moves serve notice that T-Mobile is canceling its membership in the out-of-touch wireless club," said T-Mobile CEO John Legere. "This is an industry filled with ridiculously confusing contracts, limits on how much data you can use or when you can upgrade, and monthly bills that make little sense. As America’s Un-carrier, we are changing all of that and bringing common sense to wireless." During today's presentation, T-Mobile took repeated aim at AT&T, saying users on T-Mobile's plans can save up to $1,000 annually over AT&T, Legere even going so far as to label AT&T as "vaguely sinister." That's quite a contrast from one year ago, when T-Mobile was gleefully cheerleading their acquisition by AT&T, including the false claim that killing off T-Mobile would magically improve competition, create jobs, and provide the world with free puppies. Granted the regulatory blockade of the deal wound up being a good thing for T-Mobile, since the break up fee netted them $4 billion in roaming agreements and spectrum sharing that helped make today's announcement possible.
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| Too bad... T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile. | |
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| Re: Too bad... T Mobile finally moving forward! 
doesn't LTE have better coverage then 3G or HSPA+ ? I am on Verizon and wasn't with T Mobile for very long time but people always tend to think MetroPcs is better then T-Mobile well this might be a gamechanger , someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! | |
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| Re: Too bad... LTE, all else equal, will have marginally LOWER coverage than H+ (coverage is pretty much inversely proportional to speed). When comparing to TMo's AWS H+ deployment, all else really is equal, so don't expect to get LTE where you can't get 3G/HSPA+ right now.
As for MetroPCS, I can't think of anyone who would actually prefer them over T-Mobile from a tech standpoint, though MetroPCS is a bit cheaper, depending on the plan you get.
The only reason Verizon has good LTE coverage is they're using ~750MHz spectrum to broadcast it.Lower frequencies propagate better than higher ones, so, all else equal, you'll get LTE nearly as far from a site as you could get 850MHz cellular based 3G (EvDO), despite the marked increase in bandwidth (or rather efficiency; Verizon's LTE takes 8x the spectrum of a single EvDO channel, but is nearly 3x as efficient, in ideal circumstances). | |
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| Re: Too bad... LTE is not equal to H+, like EDGE, etc... There are a number of differences in the air interfaces(OFDM)/MIMO and LTE has a much lower noise floor. On top of that newer cells bring the amplifiers closer to the cell which yields better symbol resolution. You should check this out -- asu and this:
»s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entr···-primer/
That blog discusses Sprint which is running on GHz freq just like Tmo will and outside most of the US lots of LTE countries.
I hear Sprint is going to try and run LTE or fixed on Clear spectrum which they have a crapload of it (over 150Mhz) and that is like 2.5 GHz. That will def require LTE-TD to work well, but technology always gets better.
We are entering a spectrum renaissance. All of these vacated 3G networks will be ripe for MVNO and cheap cell plans.
Now granted Verizon and ATT are sitting on spectrum that penetrates better and will allow them to be more picky, however that doesn't discount PCS/AWS-ish frequencies from running solid LTE. The question is how the refarm works and their upgrade path for EDGE cells. That will all require some shuffling until Vo-LTE takes hold for most of this decade.
When they more to LTE-Advanced you don't have to have dedicated download/upload channels. | |
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| Re: Too bad... Uh, I'm iansltx over at s4gru. I'm aware of that stuff.
Hence why I said "all else equal"; T-Mo's recent base stations are modulating PCS H+, AWS H+ and AWS LTE from the same remote radio unit. So it really is an "all else equal" situation, and given identical RSSIs (a legitimate way to measure LTE signal as long as you specify the carrier width...Verizon uses RSSI) for both techs, there are some RSSIs for which WCDMA will work and LTE won't.
We can talk about Sprint, but that's a different thread. You know, s4gru and all that. | |
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| | | | | I do. Though if you look at the technology aspect yea. But if you compare Metro PCS has unlimited everything with 3G for $50 taxes included and for those who don't care for smart phones they have $35 unlimited plan as well. If they have hidden caps I have not reached them. They also have 4G for higher but that has caps unless you pay $60. If you don't travel then I don't see why not go with the lowest priced phone for the most bang for the buck. What I worry is about this buy from T-mobile will most likely raise all the prices on Metro-PCS and introduce caps on 3G. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Too bad... Not that I've seen yet. | |
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kudos:2 | H+? No. | |
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| said by iansltx:LTE, all else equal, will have marginally LOWER coverage than H+ (coverage is pretty much inversely proportional to speed). When comparing to TMo's AWS H+ deployment, all else really is equal, so don't expect to get LTE where you can't get 3G/HSPA+ right now.
As for MetroPCS, I can't think of anyone who would actually prefer them over T-Mobile from a tech standpoint, though MetroPCS is a bit cheaper, depending on the plan you get.
The only reason Verizon has good LTE coverage is they're using ~750MHz spectrum to broadcast it.Lower frequencies propagate better than higher ones, so, all else equal, you'll get LTE nearly as far from a site as you could get 850MHz cellular based 3G (EvDO), despite the marked increase in bandwidth (or rather efficiency; Verizon's LTE takes 8x the spectrum of a single EvDO channel, but is nearly 3x as efficient, in ideal circumstances).
It's been said that t-mobile doesn't run it's AWS HSPA+ at full power. With a lot of it set rather low. The pcs HSPA so far has been more powerful in a lot of places. So, YMMV
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| Re: Too bad... said by CSD8086:OK -- stick with AT&T, get an iPhone for $200, and pay ~$45 per month more for a comparable data plan. Enjoy your $1300 iPhone.
Firstly, why the hell would I get an iPhone?  Secondly, I'm paying $60/month for unlimited minutes/text and 2GB of data. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Too bad... Then you are either comparing grandfathered/business discounted rate plans, or you already paid for your device. Either way, you should learn to compare apples to apples. | |
| | | | | | I just priced out a current AT&T plan to compare it to a T-mobile plan.
AT&T
Unlimited minutes and text
300MB of data
2 year contract
$109.99/month before tax.
So say you got a $100 phone on contract from AT&T and signed up with this plan you'd pay $2,739.76 over the course of the contract.
T-mobile
Unlimited minutes and text
2GB of data
No contract
$60/month before tax
If you got a Galaxy S III from T-mobile for $109 up front with $20/month payments for two years, you'd spend $2,029.00 over the course of 24 months.
I don't know what plan you have, but it's not available to everyone. T-mobile has pretty good coverage in LA and OC from my experience, plus free wifi calling/texting, and faster data than AT&T. | |
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|  monchisPremium
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kudos:1 | said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because:
1) no contract
2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into
3) NO INTEREST charges
4) low priced plans
5) no contract
6)that is a great price for a new phone
For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA.
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| Re: Too bad... said by monchis:said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because: 1) no contract 2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into 3) NO INTEREST charges 4) low priced plans 5) no contract 6)that is a great price for a new phone For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA. Valid points. Help me understand the no contract deal though. You agree to pay for the phone over 2 years. So what happens if you leave T-Mobile after say 3 months? You're still on the hook to pay on your phone, right?
And for the record, my sister was able to get out of her T-Mobile contract after 6 months without paying the ETF. The representative said they've been having a lot of problems in the LA area and didn't blame her for leaving. | |
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| Re: Too bad... It's a no interest payment plan. ST was/is? doing it too. If you leave, you pay the remaining balance just like an ETF, except it's based upon real hardware not some imaginary take $10 off each month and when you have 1 month left on the contract the ETF is still $150.
I'd be shocked if they let her out of a contract for "bad coverage" and without an ETF. Maybe your house is in a known bad cell zone (I did have that problem w/ Verizon and they gave me a new phone while they slowly fixed the eHRPD issues), however I doubt EVERY customer in the LA basin is having that problem. Fox would be all over that
Also, you could pick up a Nexus 4 for half the price of an iphone, or a USED one. Imagine that, letting someone else pay the depreciation. I'm sorry, but that toy iphone is NOT worth $600. Even my iphone 4s is dubiously priced, and if you compare it to the Nexus 4 I would estimate it's worth $200 NEW not like the $500 they are suckering people into buying. When they come out with the ghetto iphone this year, I bet this $100 phone goes for $400.
I was trolling and you can get a 1 year HTC Amaze (supposedly a $500 phone) that is only 1 year old for under $200, but I instead paid the extra $100 and got the Nexus 4 and man it is an awesome phone. Battery life is marginal tho, just like the rest of the suspects. I also think it's resale value will hold up now like Samsung phones. | |
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kudos:1 | I'm sure you will still be held accountable to pay off the balance. Good question though. I am darn sure they won't take the phone back if it's passed 30 days.
Also tmobile offers warranty for value plans. I missed that point.
Good to hear about your sis. You expect me to believe a rep themselves said I don't blame you? Sorry that's unbelievable. If your sister lives in a basement or works in one, then of course it is not meeting her needs and should be able to cancel without etf.
I used to work in glendale and in my building everyone with at sprint had to walk to a Window to get signal lol
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| | | MRCUR
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Columbia, PA | If you leave early, yes you're on the hook. T-Mobile has a bunch of options for you:
You can immediately buy out the remainder of the phone (based on the retail price of $580 for an iPhone 5 for example).
You can continue to make the monthly payments (so just the $20) and when you're done, the phone is all yours and T-Mobile unlocks it for you.
You can also "trade in" the phone to T-Mobile. They say you'll get "fair market value", but they don't have a pricing list for this yet. | |
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| said by monchis:said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because: 1) no contract 2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into 3) NO INTEREST charges 4) low priced plans 5) no contract 6)that is a great price for a new phone For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA. I live in San Diego and trek up to LA for stuff occasionally and had no problem up there at all. So, your right.
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| | | | | First, I am a T-Mobile Customer.
Your #4 point just doesn't hold up. The price hasn't really changed. We pay $100 now for two smart phones, unlimited with 2GB of data. If we moved to this it would be...exactly the same. Oh, no, I pay $5 per line for each additional line and didn't have to pay off my subsidized phone.
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|  RARPSL
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Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
That $580 figure is deceptive. That includes the cost of the phone but also interest that you are paying for the loan that T-Mobile is making you to pay off the phone cost. I do not know how much they would charge you if you wanted to buy it outright now but the equivalent figure should be much less than that $580 total payment. | |
| | | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Too bad... said by RARPSL:said by motoracer:
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
That $580 figure is deceptive. That includes the cost of the phone but also interest that you are paying for the loan that T-Mobile is making you to pay off the phone cost. I do not know how much they would charge you if you wanted to buy it outright now but the equivalent figure should be much less than that $580 total payment. Huh? Apple charges $649 for the unlocked iPhone. T-Mobile charges $579.
You mind detailing why you believe that T-Mobile is being deceptive/overcharging/charging interest and the like?
(Hint: I already know that their financing is interest-free, i'm just curious how much BS you're willing to pile on).
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kudos:1 | Re: Too bad... The financing is interest-free. If you have poor credit but still qualify for financing, the up-front is higher (say, $299) but with a lower payment over 20 months (say $11.95). | |
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kudos:1 | For you guys talking about le / hspa+. I have never experience lte but holy crap is hspa+ fast. I would rather keep my 8megs speed with good battery life versus 20meg speed with shit battery life.
From my observation people who can have lte turn it on and off when needed. Annoying routine if you ask me.
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kudos:1 | Re: Too bad... said by djdanska:said by monchis:For you guys talking about le / hspa+. I have never experience lte but holy crap is hspa+ fast. I would rather keep my 8megs speed with good battery life versus 20meg speed with shit battery life.
From my observation people who can have lte turn it on and off when needed. Annoying routine if you ask me.
I agree with you on HSPA+, entirely. I get 10-20Mb down easy here. But, i think their push with LTE is needed in the aspect that it will bring in more customers. Finally playing with the big boys having an LTE network and all. More customers = more revenue to expand 4g! totally agree with you there. And I am not going to lie, am curious to test lte 
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| | | | | Re: Too bad... not to mention, all the Samsung toys depreciate in value to almost nothing, compared to current model and n-1 model hold their value substantially more than any andorid phone, making it even more of a sweet deal a year from now when you want to pay it off with the proceeds of selling it on gazelle or ebay. | |
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kudos:1 | Great job t-mobile It'll be doomsday on april 12 though  Reason why att I feel sucks is because of their congestion. Data is so slow. And this is because 70 year olds can use iphones.
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| Re: Great job t-mobile T-Mobile shouldn't be hit too hard; they actually do have a bit of a ghost-town network in many places, since they only have ~33 million customers to AT&T's ~100 million. And unlike Sprint, they'll have a pseudo-4G network (plus some LTE) in most places when the iPhone comes out.
That said, they'll need to continue making network upgrades to make sure that the iPhone doesn't crash things. | |
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kudos:1 | said by monchis:It'll be doomsday on april 12 though Reason why att I feel sucks is because of their congestion. Data is so slow. And this is because 70 year olds can use iphones.
70 year olds are the only people that can afford iPhones. A lot of people I know work for low or minimum wage on a hourly basis and they tend to have the most expensive cellular plans and phones. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Great job t-mobile said by etaadmin:said by monchis:It'll be doomsday on april 12 though Reason why att I feel sucks is because of their congestion. Data is so slow. And this is because 70 year olds can use iphones.
70 year olds are the only people that can afford iPhones. A lot of people I know work for low or minimum wage on a hourly basis and they tend to have the most expensive cellular plans and phones. correcto mundo, the 70+ year Olds PLUS the young'ns an their parents who buy them the I phones = a bunch of iPhone /att users currently.
My logic is a little dramatized I know.
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| MRCUR
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Not to mention, they already have a TON of unlocked iPhones running on their network. | |
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| | Hope I really hope this pays off for them in a big way. I desparately want simpler plans with no contract to take hold. This way when my current contract is up middle of next year I can take them for a test drive and see how they compete with my current carrier. | |
|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | Pricing. . . . . is hardly jaw dropping.
while the ability to bring or buy your device is nice, i'll stick with my 83 cents/mo prepaid with no unfees that i pay $10/a year to keep going.
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| Wait a minute, what about the other benefits? Many of the above posts misses the main points entirely it seems -
IF T-mo is doing something different, FINALLY I am with them --We need good ole competition and I give them credit if they follow through with these promises as the devil is always in the details ( lets see what happens first, anyone can say anything in a press release)!
BUT IF Tmo gets
1) rid of these contracts and ETFs,
and
2) starts real competition in cell service
and also
3) Finances smartphone hardware at no (or low) interest,
then I say they will quickly catch up to ATT and if they keep it up with competitive prices, then they will blow past them. Everyone I know and myself is sick of medicore crappy service with poor cell Coveragg.
Starting and maintaining high quality service (calls and data) at good prices is the basics We all want (and its about time someone remembered that).
IT'S ABOUT TIME some cell Company gets back to basics of competition and COMPETES. If they fail, people will dump them -- but it is certainly better than We have now, crap everywhere you look (and We seem to be happy complainers). I want cutting edge speeds, coverage, and a fair price !!!
As it is now, We get stuck (in a 1 or 2yr contract) even if you have terrible service! How is that good? Android will continue IMHO to beat iPhone, but who cares -- to each their own. I want service and competition, something missing in the US Market. Look at Europe, they have some competition which is always best for Consumers. We need a level playing field and then, let them compete for business.
COMPETITION is, and always will be, the best thing for ALL consumers. We have too few companies and not enough networks in the US. But they FCC has sold us out over and over.
If Tmo causes more competition - GREAT! Again considering the US Regulators *(FCC)* has abandoned customers, (err Citizens), and are shills for the companies so they can have a cushy job when they leave Gov. I say screw them -- all these Gov. people sell out the US Customer when they get elected, and its time We change that and hold them accountable.
We have second or third world Cell service and should be first in everything, period. So much innovation and cutting edge stuff is out there, but We rarely see it here in the US First nowdays. What happened?
I am not saying Tmo is anything yet -- BUT if they TRY I will go with, and stay with them, IF THEY TRY AT LEAST, until others provide better (which I doubt is Verizon or ATT) service. Someone has to do something as what We have now is not even good -- its medicore -- if Tmo follows through, they will get MY Business !!!
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| | | I get what it is supposed to BUT...if I go with T-mobile and decide to cancel after 6 months, I now have a new phone that I still have to pay in full. That's fine, I guess, but even if unlocked, can I take that phone over to AT&T? Will I be able to get 4G LTE on that iPhone 5, for example? My understanding is that they use different spectrums for that. If I can't just bring it over to another carrier then I don't see the real benefit here. | |
| | | | Re: I get what it is supposed to They are not giving you a interest free loan to use a phone on someone elses network. It's for "their" network. Granted if you pay off the phone you can use it anywhere. But most likely they have tuned the phone for best performance on T-mobile which would be expected/demanded by T-mobile users.
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| | | | Depends on the bands the phone supports, for the iPhone 5 you should be able too, the Model A1428 (GSM model) used by AT&T and now T-mobile supports AWS T-mobile LTE and Band 4 - AT&T LTE | |
| | | | You can return the phone to T-Mobile OR you can pay it off and keep it and unlock it and use it on AT&T. In the new iPhone's case, it will have a Pentaband HSPA+ chipset and all US LTE bands. So in that case you can freely switch over to AT&T and use it just fine if that's the case.
You can almost think of it as a lease (to own) where you either return it at the end or you get to keep it and do with it as you wish, which also includes using it on another carrier. If you cancel your lease before paying it off you just have to return it obviously (if you don't then they will go after you for the charges, again, obviously!). | |
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join:2003-07-06
Hampton Bays, NY
kudos:7 | Samsung Galaxy Note II I got a software update overnight which now enables the LTE radio but checking the "service menu", there is still no signal reading.
the device now has the option of choosing LTE for radio network selection.
i suspect the actual transmitter radio for LTE on the tower is not yet in place for Hampton Bays, NY
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| | | | Re: Samsung Galaxy Note II They said NYC area will be later on, NYC wasn't launched today. | |
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | Prices Not sure about these prices as compared to deals you can get from TM. Right now I have unlimited talk, 5GB data/Unlimited for $80/month and I'm under contract with a subsidized S3. TM's new plans would run me about $70. That equals $240 for 2 years. I paid $180 for the S3 so the S3 cost me $420 over 2 years. TM was selling the S3 for about $550 at the time.
TM should improve with the continued roll out of LTE. If you have your own phone then TM is _very_ temping when compared to AT&T and Verizon. With those carriers I don't think there is any discount once you are out of contract. Of course, now these companies will need to offer a discount. So if you are on AT&T and Verizon and they offer a discount out of contract.... thank TM.
I think the new TM approach could also lower retail prices on phones. | |
| | | I have a ZTE N9100 and am on Boost Mobile Paid $200 for phone, $55/mo for unlimited everything.
Was on Virgin Mobile for two years prior.
Before that I was being raped by T-Mobile. | |
| demirPremium
join:2010-07-15
usa | good deal These plans are only good for people who already own their phone, or who bought an older model unlocked from someone else.
If that's the case, it's a much better deal than what at&t & Verizon offer to similar unlocked phone owners. | |
|  EGeezerGo CatsPremium
join:2002-08-04
Midwest
kudos:8 | Question - Q. Can the customer pay off the phone early or pay in full up front?
Thanks in advance for answers.
EG
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| |  orion940No longer a burden on societyPremium
join:2001-12-23
Windsor, CT | Re: Question - I saw an option to pay in full. There are some prices on T-Mobile that are better than Amazon on some phones, and visa versa.
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| | | | | Re: Question - Thats true and the good thing about T-mob vs Amazon is that you can check the phone in person so that way you can make a sound purchase and not have to wait. I do hope to see the new Iphone in store so i can test their speeds in person. | |
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djcrazy
join:2009-08-05
Minneapolis, MN Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
·Comcast
| Bought up front When I left VZ for T Mobile ( Best thing I ever did), I paid for my GS3 up front so I could get a cheaper monthly rate and own the phone. Unlimited talk, text, and 4G data for 69.99. Unlike VZ, I never have dropped calls and actually have a signal indoors!
Here is to hoping T Mobile keeps its course because at the end of the day, they will force greedy behemoths like AT&T and Verizon to adopt more reasonable pricing and usage standards. The market will demand it! | |
| | | New Tmobile Plans CORRECTION NEEDED...
Its $50 no-contract for unlimited; talk, text, and DATA, along with 500mb 4G of Hotspot per month(if you haven't used up your 500mb of 4G for the month). Sure its not for everyone, but thankfully nobody is forcing any whiny butt to use it.
Yes unlimited data is included in the $50 non-contract price. Your billing cycle starts with 500mb of 4G, then throttles to 2G for the remainder of the billing month cycle.
If this plan isn't for you, save your ranting for your mother. She would love to hear personally how upset you got over this new Tmobile plan that you don't want to ever have anything to do with. Just saying... | |
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