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 |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Yes. I saw that buried in the fine print. If you exceed 1 GB in a billing period, you won't be shut off, but your speed will be cut back to 50 kbps for the rest of the billing period.
»www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-feat···ils.aspx
Data: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. -- :: my trivial ramblings :: | |
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 |  |  |  Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by DaSneaky1D:Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. You'd be surprised. My always-on Moto Q9c with Exchange push support only uses 10MB-15MB per month. And I get a boatload of email each day. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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 |  |  |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Whereas I've hit 1GB/month on several occasions on my HTC Mogul. To be fair, though, I do use it as a hotspot every once in awhile, but sometimes that's only to get an iPod touch or non-data-enabled iPhone online. | |
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 |  | | said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. This is the only argument against this phone that really matters. T-mobile is clearly focusing this towards a younger population, NOT the corporate audience. If you want a corporate-friendly touch phone (i.e. Exchange support), buy the Wing.
Seems like too many people want the best of both worlds: A toy that is acceptable at the office. That's not the way T-mobile works.
Now, what I do like about this is the preloaded Amazon music store. What I don't like is the fact that all of those cool apps nearly require 3G to function properly, which T-mobile has not rolled out sufficiently. As well, there are no clear answers as to such simple things as:
- Ability to load my own MP3s unhindered - Ability to use any MP3 or WAV as a ringtone - Ability to run custom apps | |
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 |  AVonGaussPremium join:2007-11-01 Boynton Beach, FL | I am forced to agree, I didn't think it was possible, but T-Mobile has actually made AT&T look a little better with this stunt. First, AT&T offers an unlimited plan with the iPhone that is really unlimited (tethering prohibited of course, so its a safe gamble) - their tether data plans at least allow for 5 GB. T-Mobile makes the same mistake that got other carriers repeatedly spanked by now advertising an "unlimited" plan that is not in fact unlimited and their version of a cap is 1 GB? I know they add the disclaimer in the microprint at the bottom, but I seriously doubt that is going to stop them from getting spanked. | |
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| said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone while at work. I am in a 3G area, and Pandora used almost exactly 30MB. IF I did that for 5 hours a day per se, that would really add up. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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so use the wifi when you are at work If I had access to a wifi network just for streaming I would. But that's why I have a 3g signal. My point is that would eat through the 1 gig cap soon.
1 gig = bad. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by TamaraB:said by ptrowski: ... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ... Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app! Pandora is AWESOME. I have already found 5-6 new bands I never knew about. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by ptrowski: ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by TamaraB:said by ptrowski: ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times! | |
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 |  Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium join:2007-01-18 Winston Salem, NC | Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by Count Zero:Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous. It has wifi.... GSM/GPRS/EDGE/Wi-Fi and UMTS/HSDPA. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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 |  |  |  Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium join:2007-01-18 Winston Salem, NC | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Guess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read 
Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous! | |
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 |  badtripI heart the East BayPremium join:2004-03-20 Albany, CA | said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Wow, same here. I was really looking forward to this phone and as a T-Mobile customer I thought it would be a no brainer. I will be looking for new phones/plans for my whole family very soon and if the 1GB cap is true, Ill have to look elsewhere. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint.
T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me. | |
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Sprint has a 5GB cap on data. | |
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 |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | I'm no fan of the "smart" phone.
I had a Treo 700W for a hot minute. Too big, too bulky, and I sure as shit eat up the data quicker than all get out.
I'll stick with my Razor 2 with the $15/mo Vcast. Sure, I'm stuck in Verizon's walled garden. But, since all I'm interested in is sports scores and the occasional weather report, it's just easier to tote around. -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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 |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | T-Mobile backs off on 1 GB cap, but won't say what they will replace it with.
»news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-100503···1_3-0-20
Here's the full statement:
"Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.
We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G network. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers."
That sounds to me like T-Mobile hasn't given up on the idea of a soft cap altogether, but has decided that 1GB is perhaps a little too stingy. Which it is. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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And here is the web page T-Mobile has set up for the launch:
»www.t-mobileg1.com/
Here is the press release by HTC on today's G1 Android phone:
»www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=66···ang=1033
With built-in support for T-Mobile’s 3G and EDGE network as well as Wi-Fi
available at select T-Mobile retail stores and online in the U.S. beginning Oct. 22, for a price of $179 with a two-year voice and data agreement.
includes the popular Google products that millions have enjoyed on the desktop, including Google Maps Street View™, Gmail™, YouTube™ and others.
Google Maps feature syncs with the built-in compass on the phone — an industry first — to allow users to view locations and navigate 360 degrees by simply moving the phone with their hand.
It combines Instant Messaging support for Google Talk™, as well as AOL®, Yahoo! Messenger ® and Windows Live Messenger in the U.S. With access to high-speed Web browsing and a 3-megapixel camera with photo-sharing capabilities,
T-Mobile G1 comes pre-loaded with a new application developed by Amazon.com that gives customers easy access to Amazon MP3, Amazon.com’s digital music download store with more than 6 million DRM-free MP3 tracks. Using the new application, T-Mobile G1 customers are able to search, sample, purchase and download music from Amazon MP3 directly to their device
Cheapest 2 yr voice plan is 300 minutes; unlimited weekends for $30/mo. »www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell···al-Basic
The G1 data plans are as follows: »www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-faqs-phone.aspx
What types of plans are available for the T-Mobile G1? Once you’ve selected a specific T-Mobile voice plan, you must also choose a data plan in order for your G1™ to work. You can choose from a data plan that offers 400 messages and unlimited data access for $25 a month—or add unlimited messaging for just $10 more a month.
So, combined, it looks like cheapest is $55 & $65/mo, depending on which data plan you chose. Of course, you would have to add on all the usual fees, taxes, USF, etc that add about $15 more to the bottom line. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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Like I said in an earlier thread, that home screen is atrocious. It looks like a bad mashup of Google Gadgets and iGoogle. Even the phone looks like it was culled from an early 90's electronics stack. What's with the MicroTac looking greyish-black plastic and early 80's buttons?
Yuck. No wonder they only released this on the smallish T-Mobile. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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Let's look at similar plans:
ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20
$89.99/month
T-Mobile
My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month)
$59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash
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My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month
$74.99/month
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 |  kamm join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY | Re: Hmmmm..... said by moonpuppy:Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.) Let's look at similar plans: ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20 $89.99/month T-Mobile My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month) $59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash G1 My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month $74.99/month Competitive. Except when you hit 1GB you go back to slower-than-dialup level.  -- [BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. [/BQUOTE] | |
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 |  |  |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | T-mobile has more customers worldwide than ATT does. For Google, going GSM was no-brainer #1. Since ATT is locked up with the iPhone, getting a ton of users in Europe and the USA using a single company is a very good idea. Of course, T-mobile in Europe now has the iPhone AND the G1. And with T-mobile rolling out their 3G network (finally), they happened onto a perfect launch platform. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
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1) GSM 2) TMobile 3) 1GB Cap
Next.....
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We can now safely say that TMO IS THE WORST POSSIBLE CHOICE FOR MOBILE INTERNET, PERIOD. -- [BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. [/BQUOTE] | |
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1000 minutes, 2 lines, My Faves - $60 400 Messages (Text, Picture) - $5 Unlimited Blackberry Service - $20 ($15/mo less than everyone else)
Total Cost: $85
Closest AT&T plan in price(other carriers available in Atlanta with national roaming are similar):
550 Minutes, 2 lines - $60 200 Messages - $5 Unlimited Blackberry Service - $35
Total Cost: $100($15/mo), and you get half the messages and a little over half the minutes, and that's not with MyFaves to offset the per-minute usage. | |
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 |  |  CSU join:2002-10-21 Lagrange, GA | Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic... Exactly....you're in Atlanta. You leave Atlanta and you will have a hard time finding a signal. | |
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I get a really good signal in TN (thanks to AT&T), and also KY, OH, MI, IL, FL, Atlanta, IN, IA (thanks to i-wireless), MN, and the parts of ND i have visited. | |
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If I didn't get good service, I would change carriers, which I did when I dropped Sprint after only 8 months. I've been with T-Mobile over 2 years now and have no plans to change. -- *************** I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. - Stephen Hawking | |
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 AuthorityObama Biden '12 join:2000-03-29 Woodland Hills, CA | No UMA is a deal breaker for me ;( UMA is to me the distinguishing feature for T-Mobile over all others... and they didn't include it. Bad move? -- OS X on a PC? Yup! »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86 | |
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 58483323Gurt me join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | It's ugly... The phone is ugly and the user interface doesn't look as simple as the iPhone's.
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 |  illJazzPremium join:2002-09-04 Geneva 1 edit | Re: What happened to.. I'm all for some real competition for the iPhone. Competition is good, and best for us consumers. I've been an iPhone user since day 2 of the original iPhone's launch and bought the iPhone 3G on day 2 of its launch. And I welcome Google and TMO with open arms in the hopes that what they bring to the table will push Apple to do even better things with the iPhone.
Having said that and having read multiple articles and summaries on today's news surrounding the G1, however, I must admit that I'm not the least bit worried about the iPhone's ongoing success. Given what the G1 appears to offer right now, it just does not look like a serious threat, or any threat, really, to the iPhone.
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 |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | said by Glaice:...a phone being a phone with minimal junk features and fancy shmancy stuff? You can get phones like that... but I don't see why you should expect 100% of phones to be like that, when there's clearly demand for these hybrid devices. | |
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 |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | said by Glaice:...a phone being a phone with minimal junk features and fancy shmancy stuff? They have that. Those are the free phones you get for renewing. Minimal phones don't make the news. | |
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But mostly, I have more bars in more places than I ever had with TMo and I have rollover minutes. Ha!  Unless something's changed, T-Mobile and ATT have roaming agreements with each other. When a t-mobile customer is outside of the t-mobile service area they roam on ATT's network for free... So, I find it difficult to believe that you have better coverage on ATT when you could roam on their network with t-mobile before at no cost. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
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 |  |  58483323Gurt me join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | Re: I Switched That's not true for all areas... only in some cases. | |
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 |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | The thing about roaming is that if you have a marginal signal from your main carrier, and a strong roaming signal, your phone will default to the marginal signal. If the marginal signal disappears, then you'll end up on the strong roaming signal. Some phones allow you to set it to force roaming to avoid this issue, but many don't. | |
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 AJBMatrixMac Convert join:2005-08-07 Athens, GA | iPhone customers are getting a deal here: The users of the iPhone and future users will benefit from this only because the added market competition. Now the iPhone is the clear winner and having left T-mobile 4 years ago for Cingular due to coverage issues, I still believe that ATT is a better choice. Now the iPhone is not for everyone but with people having an option ATT should slowly respond to the competition.
And my Data usage can vary widely. Some months I only use about 600MB (in and out) and others I use over 3GB.
At least this is not sprint because you roam or are a soldier serving our country you can find yourself cut. -- MacBook Pro 2.0 GHz; 2 GB RAM; 100 GB HD 7200 RPM; ATI x1600 w/ 256MB GDDR3; Built in iSight; FrontRow and the best feature ever...OSX! | |
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 |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | Re: iPhone customers are getting a deal here: said by AJBMatrix:The users of the iPhone and future users will benefit from this only because the added market competition. Now the iPhone is the clear winner... Kinda hard to make that assessment just yet. The G1, being Android-based open-source and with open access to applications will become the hackers'/coders' "dream" handset. There are a lot of features that the G1 doesn't come with natively that can easily be added by 3rd parties (ie Exchange syncing, etc..). The iPhone's closed source and software policies severely limit innovation. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
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 |  |  | | Re: iPhone customers are getting a deal here: said by tiger72:Kinda hard to make that assessment just yet. The G1, being Android-based open-source and with open access to applications will become the hackers'/coders' "dream" handset. There are a lot of features that the G1 doesn't come with natively that can easily be added by 3rd parties (ie Exchange syncing, etc..). The iPhone's closed source and software policies severely limit innovation. Actually any user/hacker/coder can jailbreak their iPhones and do whatever they want. So far Apple hasn't tried very hard to keep people from doing that - not exactly a secret as people have been doing it over a year now. Also, the software policies can and probably will change as OS X Touch matures.
The G1 is a T-Mobile device (made by HTC). T-Mobile is free to take Android and do whatever it wants with it. They can in fact "close down" the OS if they so desired. Just because Android is "open source" doesn't mean the end-user will be free to do whatever they want. Not sure why people seem to think this? An excerpt from Ars Technica on the reasoning for distributing Android under the Apache Software License rather than GPL...
"The ASL will allow individual handset makers to develop proprietary customizations for the platform as needed to accommodate the unique technologies in their individual products." | |
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 GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Movies, Music, Games Will Not Count? quote: Some downloads, such as movies, music, and games, not included.
I wonder if that means it won't be included in the cap.
Makes it much more bearable. -- My BLOG! Black Friday Ads | |
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 | | caps I was going with att, they told me last week the 5gb was going into effect, the other 2 providers done same, so, I guess I will be one less customer they will have to worry about, will NOT signup for 60 bucks a month service and be limited to 5gb! I might use 1gb for months then get charged for going over one month, natta!!!! they all can keep service! will be dropping cell phoneS as soon as contract is up! they are all getting to big and demanding | |
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| Battle of the Titans Apple vs. Google
I think Google will greatly improve the software/functionality. However the 1GB cap is truly offensive to users of these type phones.
Apple has the deficit of a fragile new shell and pitifully short battery life.
Apple has the upper hand right now but Google could leap ahead in a couple more years IF they choose to take the phone seriously and IF the carrier comes up with a better plan and service.
Google is a force to behold. Apple should not play this game assuming that they are too big to fail inasmuch as the iPhone is concerned. Google has the brightest people on the planet in its corner all over the globe. | |
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 |  AJBMatrixMac Convert join:2005-08-07 Athens, GA | Re: Battle of the Titans You say that it has a pitifully short battery life. What phone are you using? I have mine and had it for almost a year now. Having it check my e-mail regularly. Browsing the web, forums, games, applications, iPod, and everything else it easily provides me 6 hours of use before it needs to be recharged. If I wanted to improve that I would easily just turn the e-mail off. If you are talking, playing, browsing, and such on a phone more than 6 hours without being near something that can charge it then I would reconsider your need for a data phone and more push toward a laptop and portable generator. -- MacBook Pro 2.0 GHz; 2 GB RAM; 100 GB HD 7200 RPM; ATI x1600 w/ 256MB GDDR3; Built in iSight; FrontRow and the best feature ever...OSX! | |
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| Re: Battle of the Titans Re: Battery I'm talking about the short battery life of the new Apple 3G iPhone.
You can easily search the web to find review upon review of the short battery life. I spoke to an associate who says that it can last as long as his old iPhone IF he turns off every new feature that the 3G iPhone offers. This of course would negate the need to upgrade from the previous iPhone in the first place.
Re: iPhone I see me using the iPhone for phone-calls, email, text messaging, stock trading on the go, and gleaning the news highlights throughout the day via the internet.
For this I need a reliable unit with at least 10 hours of standby time, a type-able keyboard interface (such as the Helio Ocean has), good volume and blue-tooth functionality, and multiple charging options like pc/ac/dc.
I do not need a phone to replace my MP3 player, watch TV & video, or open/close my garage door.
For the future, I'd like to be able to easily utilize web applications with my phone and continue to do those things above easily and effectively. | |
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