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1GIG/month cap will sink Android1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:26 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Yes. I saw that buried in the fine print. If you exceed 1 GB in a billing period, you won't be shut off, but your speed will be cut back to 50 kbps for the rest of the billing period. » www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-le ··· ils.aspxData: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users. | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidConsidering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:37 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by DaSneaky1D:Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. You'd be surprised. My always-on Moto Q9c with Exchange push support only uses 10MB-15MB per month. And I get a boatload of email each day. | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidWhereas I've hit 1GB/month on several occasions on my HTC Mogul. To be fair, though, I do use it as a hotspot every once in awhile, but sometimes that's only to get an iPod touch or non-data-enabled iPhone online. | |
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said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. This is the only argument against this phone that really matters. T-mobile is clearly focusing this towards a younger population, NOT the corporate audience. If you want a corporate-friendly touch phone (i.e. Exchange support), buy the Wing. Seems like too many people want the best of both worlds: A toy that is acceptable at the office. That's not the way T-mobile works. Now, what I do like about this is the preloaded Amazon music store. What I don't like is the fact that all of those cool apps nearly require 3G to function properly, which T-mobile has not rolled out sufficiently. As well, there are no clear answers as to such simple things as: - Ability to load my own MP3s unhindered - Ability to use any MP3 or WAV as a ringtone - Ability to run custom apps | |
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I am forced to agree, I didn't think it was possible, but T-Mobile has actually made AT&T look a little better with this stunt. First, AT&T offers an unlimited plan with the iPhone that is really unlimited (tethering prohibited of course, so its a safe gamble) - their tether data plans at least allow for 5 GB. T-Mobile makes the same mistake that got other carriers repeatedly spanked by now advertising an "unlimited" plan that is not in fact unlimited and their version of a cap is 1 GB? I know they add the disclaimer in the microprint at the bottom, but I seriously doubt that is going to stop them from getting spanked. | |
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said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone while at work. I am in a 3G area, and Pandora used almost exactly 30MB. IF I did that for 5 hours a day per se, that would really add up. | |
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2008-Sep-23 4:37 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidso use the wifi when you are at work | |
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2008-Sep-23 4:50 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by joejoecom :
so use the wifi when you are at work If I had access to a wifi network just for streaming I would. But that's why I have a 3g signal. My point is that would eat through the 1 gig cap soon. 1 gig = bad. | |
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2008-Sep-24 9:05 am
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by TamaraB:said by ptrowski: ... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ... Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app! Pandora is AWESOME. I have already found 5-6 new bands I never knew about. | |
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2008-Sep-24 9:21 am
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by TamaraB:said by ptrowski: ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times! | |
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2008-Sep-24 9:35 am
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by ptrowski:said by TamaraB:said by ptrowski: ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times! Boom de ada, Boom de ada ... | |
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Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous. | |
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2008-Sep-23 2:17 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by Count Zero:Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous. It has wifi.... GSM/GPRS/EDGE/ Wi-Fi and UMTS/HSDPA. | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidGuess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous! | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by Count Zero:Guess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous! This post doesn't give me a lot of faith in hospitals. Unless your saying 35 hrs a week at work is unbareable? | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android35hrs straight. | |
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said by kwayzcat:1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Wow, same here. I was really looking forward to this phone and as a T-Mobile customer I thought it would be a no brainer. I will be looking for new phones/plans for my whole family very soon and if the 1GB cap is true, Ill have to look elsewhere. | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidI have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint.
T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me. | |
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Androidsaid by kwayzcat:I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint. T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me. ATT and Sprint have the best 5GB cap terms, ATT unenforced, Sprint over a 3 month period. | |
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2008-Sep-24 7:24 am
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidSprint 5GB cap is not for mobile phone data plans, it is literally for Phone as a modem plan people aka official tethering people. But as Sprint rep mentioned in their forum if you go beyond couple of GBs a month sprint will start flagging ur account as a possible tethering user! | |
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2008-Sep-24 7:24 am
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Use Kinoma Player and you will go over 1 GB in a day!I have used Kinoma player which streams youtube and tons of podcasts on windows mobile, mine is sprint mogul, I have used about 1 GB on a single day. On a sidenote, I haven't seen many people noticing the fact that G1 cannot download from amazon mp3 store over TMO internet, it can do that only over wifi!! | |
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Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me.
Sprint has a 5GB cap on data. | |
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I'm no fan of the "smart" phone.
I had a Treo 700W for a hot minute. Too big, too bulky, and I sure as shit eat up the data quicker than all get out.
I'll stick with my Razor 2 with the $15/mo Vcast. Sure, I'm stuck in Verizon's walled garden. But, since all I'm interested in is sports scores and the occasional weather report, it's just easier to tote around. | |
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2008-Sep-23 7:33 pm
Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink AndroidThe batteries on the Treo would probably die before you ate through your data. That is the biggest problem with that bloated piece of sh*t.....er hardware. | |
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T-Mobile backs off on 1 GB cap, but won't say what they will replace it with. » news.cnet.com/8301-1035_ ··· 1_3-0-20Here's the full statement:
"Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.
We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G network. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers."
That sounds to me like T-Mobile hasn't given up on the idea of a soft cap altogether, but has decided that 1GB is perhaps a little too stingy. Which it is. | |
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That's protective notice for people going way over.In the past people could hide tethering and torrenting under the unlimited bundles and sue later when cut off, They won't do that if your average is gone over 3-4 times a year it's for people hacking that go way beyond and is just to protect themselves from those folks. Kind of like Comcast booting the people that went way over hurting the local areas over all experience. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:18 pm
More details and linksAnd here is the web page T-Mobile has set up for the launch: »www.t-mobileg1.com/
Here is the press release by HTC on today's G1 Android phone: »www.htc.com/www/press.as ··· ang=1033
With built-in support for T-Mobiles 3G and EDGE network as well as Wi-Fi
available at select T-Mobile retail stores and online in the U.S. beginning Oct. 22, for a price of $179 with a two-year voice and data agreement.
includes the popular Google products that millions have enjoyed on the desktop, including Google Maps Street View, Gmail, YouTube and others.
Google Maps feature syncs with the built-in compass on the phone an industry first to allow users to view locations and navigate 360 degrees by simply moving the phone with their hand.
It combines Instant Messaging support for Google Talk, as well as AOL®, Yahoo! Messenger ® and Windows Live Messenger in the U.S. With access to high-speed Web browsing and a 3-megapixel camera with photo-sharing capabilities,
T-Mobile G1 comes pre-loaded with a new application developed by Amazon.com that gives customers easy access to Amazon MP3, Amazon.coms digital music download store with more than 6 million DRM-free MP3 tracks. Using the new application, T-Mobile G1 customers are able to search, sample, purchase and download music from Amazon MP3 directly to their device
Cheapest 2 yr voice plan is 300 minutes; unlimited weekends for $30/mo. » www.t-mobile.com/shop/pl ··· al-BasicThe G1 data plans are as follows: » www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-le ··· one.aspx What types of plans are available for the T-Mobile G1? Once youve selected a specific T-Mobile voice plan, you must also choose a data plan in order for your G1 to work. You can choose from a data plan that offers 400 messages and unlimited data access for $25 a monthor add unlimited messaging for just $10 more a month.
So, combined, it looks like cheapest is $55 & $65/mo, depending on which data plan you chose. Of course, you would have to add on all the usual fees, taxes, USF, etc that add about $15 more to the bottom line. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:20 pm
no exchange support???deal breaker. now an expensive toy like iphone was pre 2.0. seriously how can you launch a device like this with no connectivity to corporate email? | |
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Re: no exchange support???This isn't an Iphone or a Sidekick for kids, its professional looking. Beats me. | |
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No exchange support?That really is too bad. I was amped for this phone, but without Exchange support I simply can't justify getting one. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:33 pm
FuglyLike I said in an earlier thread, that home screen is atrocious. It looks like a bad mashup of Google Gadgets and iGoogle. Even the phone looks like it was culled from an early 90's electronics stack. What's with the MicroTac looking greyish-black plastic and early 80's buttons?
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2008-Sep-23 12:42 pm
Hmmmm.....Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.)
Let's look at similar plans:
ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20
$89.99/month
T-Mobile
My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month)
$59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash
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My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month
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2008-Sep-23 2:30 pm
Re: Hmmmm.....said by moonpuppy:Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.) Let's look at similar plans: ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20 $89.99/month T-Mobile My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month) $59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash G1 My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month $74.99/month Competitive. Except when you hit 1GB you go back to slower-than-dialup level. | |
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2008-Sep-23 12:56 pm
How to screw up a phone launch 101:1) GSM 2) TMobile 3) 1GB Cap
Next.....
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2008-Sep-23 1:54 pm
PfftT-Mobile......they have never done any upgrade from my point of view. I was with them until my contract ended and they never once had service that worked in my office. I jumped ship to Verizon to at least have service everywhere. | |
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2008-Sep-23 2:26 pm
TMO was always and still is pathetic......when it comes to data service. I remember when they kept lying to me 2-3 years ago that they very soon will launch their 3G service - suuuuure, it still has yet to be launched nationwide, let alone the terms of this truly pathetic, shitty-crappy limited TMO data service now.
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2008-Sep-23 2:31 pm
Good work!Glad to see someone doing their homework. Too many of the usual suspects are just parroting the "unlimited" language without reading the blatantly obvious information on the G1 website. Good work, and I'm glad to see someone other than me remembers how to read fine print. | |
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No UMA is a deal breaker for me ;(UMA is to me the distinguishing feature for T-Mobile over all others... and they didn't include it. Bad move? | |
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2008-Sep-23 3:37 pm
It's ugly...The phone is ugly and the user interface doesn't look as simple as the iPhone's.
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2008-Sep-23 6:08 pm
What happened to.....a phone being a phone with minimal junk features and fancy shmancy stuff? | |
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I Switchedfrom TMo to ATT a month ago. I have a free Motorola V9 and a free Pantech Duo, Media Net, ATT Navigator (GPS), XM Radio, Cellular Video, and the rest of the unnecessary bells and whistles to play with. Does TMo even have video? But mostly, I have more bars in more places than I ever had with TMo and I have rollover minutes. Ha! | |
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iPhone customers are getting a deal here:The users of the iPhone and future users will benefit from this only because the added market competition. Now the iPhone is the clear winner and having left T-mobile 4 years ago for Cingular due to coverage issues, I still believe that ATT is a better choice. Now the iPhone is not for everyone but with people having an option ATT should slowly respond to the competition.
And my Data usage can vary widely. Some months I only use about 600MB (in and out) and others I use over 3GB.
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2008-Sep-24 9:30 am
Re: iPhone customers are getting a deal here:said by AJBMatrix:The users of the iPhone and future users will benefit from this only because the added market competition. Now the iPhone is the clear winner... Kinda hard to make that assessment just yet. The G1, being Android-based open-source and with open access to applications will become the hackers'/coders' "dream" handset. There are a lot of features that the G1 doesn't come with natively that can easily be added by 3rd parties (ie Exchange syncing, etc..). The iPhone's closed source and software policies severely limit innovation. | |
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2008-Sep-24 12:00 pm
Re: iPhone customers are getting a deal here:said by tiger72:Kinda hard to make that assessment just yet. The G1, being Android-based open-source and with open access to applications will become the hackers'/coders' "dream" handset. There are a lot of features that the G1 doesn't come with natively that can easily be added by 3rd parties (ie Exchange syncing, etc..). The iPhone's closed source and software policies severely limit innovation. Actually any user/hacker/coder can jailbreak their iPhones and do whatever they want. So far Apple hasn't tried very hard to keep people from doing that - not exactly a secret as people have been doing it over a year now. Also, the software policies can and probably will change as OS X Touch matures. The G1 is a T-Mobile device (made by HTC). T-Mobile is free to take Android and do whatever it wants with it. They can in fact "close down" the OS if they so desired. Just because Android is "open source" doesn't mean the end-user will be free to do whatever they want. Not sure why people seem to think this? An excerpt from Ars Technica on the reasoning for distributing Android under the Apache Software License rather than GPL... "The ASL will allow individual handset makers to develop proprietary customizations for the platform as needed to accommodate the unique technologies in their individual products." | |
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2008-Sep-23 10:24 pm
Movies, Music, Games Will Not Count?quote: Some downloads, such as movies, music, and games, not included.
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2008-Sep-24 12:25 am
capsI was going with att, they told me last week the 5gb was going into effect, the other 2 providers done same, so, I guess I will be one less customer they will have to worry about, will NOT signup for 60 bucks a month service and be limited to 5gb! I might use 1gb for months then get charged for going over one month, natta!!!! they all can keep service! will be dropping cell phoneS as soon as contract is up! they are all getting to big and demanding | |
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Re: capsUntil a prepaid service comes out with 3G offerings and real data plans, we have no choice. The contract carriers will continue to suck the blood out of the consumer. Bend over...it's for your own good! | |
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2008-Sep-24 12:10 pm
Battle of the TitansApple vs. Google
I think Google will greatly improve the software/functionality. However the 1GB cap is truly offensive to users of these type phones.
Apple has the deficit of a fragile new shell and pitifully short battery life.
Apple has the upper hand right now but Google could leap ahead in a couple more years IF they choose to take the phone seriously and IF the carrier comes up with a better plan and service.
Google is a force to behold. Apple should not play this game assuming that they are too big to fail inasmuch as the iPhone is concerned. Google has the brightest people on the planet in its corner all over the globe. | |
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