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T-Mobile G2 Pre-Orders Begin At Best Buy
$200 with T-Mobile two year contract
by Karl Bode Friday 10-Sep-2010 tags: business · wireless · hardware · bandwidth
Yesterday T-Mobile officially unveiled the HTC G2, the first ever phone to be able to take advantage of HSPA+ speeds. T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is theoretically capable of 21 Mbps, though you'll see speeds closer to 10 Mbps at best, which of course is still impressive. According to T-Mobile, the phone will be available for pre-order "in limited quantities later this month." For those of you who don't want to wait, Best Buy has announced they're now taking pre-orders for the device, which costs the smartphone-standard $200 -- assuming you sign a two-year contract with T-Mobile. According to the Best Buy press release, users can pre-order starting today, but the phone won't actually be available in stores until October 6.

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premimum

will they charge a $10 surcharge for premium features?
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will they charge a $10 surcharge for premium features?
At least around here, just getting non-roaming voice service on T-Mobile is a premium in itself.
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Re: premimum

They can't put a tower on the moose and make them roaming spots?

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No because the moose will cross the road and then coverage will be lost once that said moose is struck xp

ME is very nice but cities are extremely distant from each other after Portland, and to set coverage in locations where even providing power is a problem can be a big hassle and requires a large investment, I can see them improving their coverage once they are done with their HSPA+ rollouts and more money starts coming in as more subscribers sign up for data and better offers from T-mobile, you need to give it at least two years though because many people are still under contract.

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ME is very nice but cities are extremely distant from each other after Portland, and to set coverage in locations where even providing power is a problem can be a big hassle and requires a large investment, I can see them improving their coverage once they are done with their HSPA+ rollouts and more money starts coming in as more subscribers sign up for data and better offers from T-mobile, you need to give it at least two years though because many people are still under contract.
Portland and just outside of it is the only place T-Mobile has 3G here. I understand why but they are not really considered a huge player here. My GF has T-Mobile and leaves her phone set to roam only almost all of the time, this includes data. I am surprised she has not received a letter yet telling her to take a hike due to high roaming amounts but they either will wait until her contract is done or they are just absorbing the costs for whatever reason.
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will they charge a $10 surcharge for premium features?
Of course not, this is T-Mobile, not Sprint.
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said by AVD:

will they charge a $10 surcharge for premium features?
No they won't. But I wish they offered rates and services like T-Mobile UK or local T-Mobile in Germany.

You only pay for outgoing minutes, minimum minutes package is not 450 min or so, the price of phone is adjusted to your picked voice plan.

However, cell phones have separate area codes and you pay more for calling mobile phones if you for ex call from landline.
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Are there AAA or other discounts for T-Mobile as there are for Sprint?

I just priced smart phone plans at T-Mobile.com and it looks like they may cost less than my current Sprint plans for a 4G phone IF they don't have an extra 4G fee.

A discount organization that has open enrollment, or a simple to use discount code would be nice.
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My fitness club in my area offers "corporate" discounts for members.

If you work for a big corporation or go to college chances are you may have discount you're looking for.
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My fitness club in my area offers "corporate" discounts for members.

If you work for a big corporation or go to college chances are you may have discount you're looking for.
Sadly I don't work for a big corporation, I'd need something to join like a credit union, credit card type, AAA, national PTA / PTO, something like that.
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There is an AAA discount for T-Mobile, I think it's 15%.
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There is an AAA discount for T-Mobile, I think it's 15%.
Thanks! I'll check it out, I'm already a member. 15% on T-Mobile would work to make it about the same cost as Sprint, and lower than Sprint on a 4G phone (assuming T-Mobile doesn't introduce a 4G charge).
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said by Gbcue:

There is an AAA discount for T-Mobile, I think it's 15%.
Thanks! I'll check it out, I'm already a member. 15% on T-Mobile would work to make it about the same cost as Sprint, and lower than Sprint on a 4G phone (assuming T-Mobile doesn't introduce a 4G charge).
There is no up-charge for these 4G speeds.
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10 extra

Your talking about tmobile not Sprint.

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Re: 10 extra

Not to mention that T-Mobile broadband speeds are way better than Sprint's 4G.
Just wondering will they meter the bandwidth or leave it unlimited?

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For More Info

check out »www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2-3518.php.

The phone specs can be found there.

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Extra Charges- No

I spoke to a rep today and they confirmed that there will be no additional charges for any features or the 4G. The same $24.95 I am paying now will cover the 4G. The hotspot feature also won't cost more.

I have a friend who has a Nexus One on Tmobile and the hotspot feature works great.
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Re: Extra Charges- No

Just to clarify, its not 4G, its "4G speeds" its still considered 3G technology. I for one can't wait for the G2 to come out as my area has had HSPA+ for a while but no phones to take advantage of it. Now i can use it to tether my laptop while im at school and not have to deal with an over congested school network.
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look alike

is it just me or all smartphones look like an iphone nowadays?

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This is not apples to apples with a sprint plan.
With sprint you can call any mobile phone no matter what carrier without using your minutes. Also, your anytime minutes start at 7pm. I cant comment on phone speeds. As I don't have sprint. But 12mbps damn that is fast for a cell phone.

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HSPA vs HSPA+ or "the first ever phone..."

In short HSPA = HSDPA + HSUPA = ~14Mbit down + ~5Mbit up (practical tests, not TMO speeds but theoreticals are even faster)

HSPA+ = Evolved HSPA = ~42/56Mbit down + ~11Mbit+ up (theoretical)

In other words having a HSPA or a HSPA+ handset makes no difference whatsoever and won't make in the next couple of years either.

Bottom line: you can max out TMO's 3.5G network with any half-decent Snapdragon phone already.
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wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

for those that are interested in this service, Sprint/Clear WiMAX is just as fast and has considerably more coverage. Speed is advertised around 3-6Mbps with 10Mbps bursts, but those are more like minimums by my observation (unless you're on a saturated tower or have poor reception maybe). Most people realistically see 7-12Mbps on WiMAX with their smartphones (EVO/etc) and get way better coverage with complete 3G fallback where WiMAX isn't available. Here in Oregon, T-Mobile only has their 3G network in Portland while Clear/Sprint has 4G along most major cities along I-5 from Portland to Eugene (including Salem, Wilsonvile, etc), and 3G everywhere else.
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Re: wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

Where do you see the numbers that most people get 7 - 12 mbps? That is significantly higher than the averages I have been seeing.
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Re: wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

basically results will very depending on tower, signal, net/path/server congestion, testing method (tether vs. mobile test app, etc), etc. but WiMAX is capable of pretty fast speeds, lots of people see 7-12Mbps.

these are with a Sprint overdrive:
record setter:


recent Sprint overdrive:



Clear:


This is on an EVO itself:


There are reported problems with mobile speed tests reporting poor results when run on the phone itself, maybe that was your problem? did you have good signal, try different towers? how about tethering or trying a manual HTTP/FTP transfer or something from a location you know has the capacity to max out the connection? etc etc

»www.howardforums.com/showthread.···!!/page8

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Re: wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

I was referring to average speeds with actual phones since this is about the G2. I'm sure its possible to find some good peak speeds but whats important is the combined average of what people get while being mobile. From what I have seen Sprints estimate is accurate.
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Re: wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

My peak speeds were my average speed (10Mbps range) when I had the service, it was consistent. This is pretty much the norm from what I've seen reported in most of the forums (maybe 5-8Mbps range for the EVO itself) I've seen this talked about on, I wager those who see consistently less usually have poor testing methology in place (or a poor connection/some other technical problem/etc), as I've usually noted is the case.
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Re: wimax is just as fast and has better coverage

Haven't seen any numbers that indicate that is the general case anywhere.
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Another Lie

God T-Mobile is so desperate for customer's, it's only capable of 14.4mbps. Thats NOT HSPA+!
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Re: Another Lie

said by iLive4Fusion:

God T-Mobile is so desperate for customer's, it's only capable of 14.4mbps. Thats NOT HSPA+!
Only 14.4mbps! Ha ha, that is faster than a lot of peoples home connections.
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Re: Another Lie

said by kapp0:

said by iLive4Fusion:

God T-Mobile is so desperate for customer's, it's only capable of 14.4mbps. Thats NOT HSPA+!
Only 14.4mbps! Ha ha, that is faster than a lot of peoples home connections.
It's not HSPA+ though like advertised and nobody is going to see 14.4mbps from that phone.
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14.4mb

how do u know what anyone will see from the phone? it isn't out? do you have a crystal ball perhaps...

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