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T-Mobile: HSPA+ 42 Now in 175 Markets
HSPA+ 21 Now in 217 Markets, Covering 200 Million
by Karl Bode Thursday 12-Jan-2012 tags: coverage · business · wireless · bandwidth · consumers · wireless
While T-Mobile may be in no rush to make the jump to LTE, the company continues to push out their HSPA+ 42 upgrades to numerous additional markets. According to a T-Mobile announcement, the company is now offering faster 4G (HSPA+ 42) service to twelve additional markets, bringing their total to 184 million Americans in 175 markets. T-Mobile says their slightly-slower (HSPA+ 21) network now reaches nine additional markets, covering a total of 217 markets and more than 200 million potential customers. While HSPA+ 42 is theoretically capable of 42 Mbps in perfect lab conditions, real world downstream speeds post-upgrade tend to be closer to the 10-12 Mbps mark.

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djdanska
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faster..

10 to 12 is the slowest I've gotten in Chicago with my 42Mb phone. Usually around 20 Mb or faster.

My galaxy a 4g gets that usually. But it's a 21Mb phone.
puck0114

join:2005-12-24
Portland, OR

Re: faster..

That's much better than what I typically get on Sprint's WiMax (about 5 MB down and 1.5 up). I may have to seriously look at TMobile since AT&T isn't going to be swallowing them up. Hopefully they have good service near Portland!

djdanska
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Re: faster..

I got those speeds you mentioned on my old hd2 easily. And it's only 3g. But, T-Mobile 3g is 7.2Mb vs sprints around 3Mb or so.
puck0114

join:2005-12-24
Portland, OR

Re: faster..

I wish I saw 3 MB on Sprint's 3G! .5 MB is what I generally get. It's gotten steadily worse over the past couple years.

djdanska
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Re: faster..

said by puck0114:

I wish I saw 3 MB on Sprint's 3G! .5 MB is what I generally get. It's gotten steadily worse over the past couple years.

there is advantages and disadvantages. you get 3g in a lot more places. But I get much faster in some places. Outside 3g areas, you get 2g. 50 to 200kbps. I can talk and surf at same time in 3g or 4g areas though. Depends on your location
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chgo_man99

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Slightly slower but enough adequate for your needs. Switch only when your contract expires or want more reliable tower-tower handoff.

tmh

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Yay!

Things are really moving now that T is rid of the Death Star.

djdanska
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Re: Yay!

By me in the Midwest, they started relaunching 3g and 4g in late summer. They must have saw the writing on the wall.
rob316

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Carteret, NJ

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YAAAA

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Re: Yay!

Doesn't look like your post made it in, Rob. Is there supposed to be something in it?

(nvm, lol)
decifal

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Bon Aqua, TN
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LOL love it! For once they actually got something right!
NWOhio

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Toledo, OH
T is the Death Star.

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SysOp

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time to disrupt the market

And raise the caps.

Would love to see a $100 50gb 4G everything prepaid plan.

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Raise the cap and the throttle!!!

I refer to my idea options from yesterday post on T-MO...

Here in FL im always on the go ( work contracts) with my G2X (HSPA+21 phone) in Average ( All in Mbps)

Tampa 10.5
Orlando 7.2
Melbourne 9.2
Ocala 4.5
Gainesville (varies) 4-7
Miami.. Forgot to run a test when I was there last week...

BF69
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Camden, TN

Awesome

let me know when T-mobile provides even 2G within 30 miles of me.
sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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Truth

The reality is HSPA+ 42 is as fast as LTE. So why is T-Mobile still so afraid of congestion? Why not allow their customers to use unlimited bandwidth during off-peak hours? Or at least from 12 AM - 8 AM? Even horribly congested satellite allows for this.

michieru
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Miami, FL

Re: Truth

Because the moment quality goes down the crapper they will lose customers. You need to keep a fair balance on usage and what's available. Even though the traffic might not pass 10MB/sec it doesn't mean you should let everyone roam free either.
sonicmerlin

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Cleveland, OH
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Re: Truth

said by michieru:

Because the moment quality goes down the crapper they will lose customers. You need to keep a fair balance on usage and what's available. Even though the traffic might not pass 10MB/sec it doesn't mean you should let everyone roam free either.

How will quality go down if subscribers are allowed unlimited periods during 12 AM - 8 AM? These are times when the towers go almost completely unused.

Do you even understand how towers are provisioned? Outside of evening peak hours bandwidth is being shared by less people. During middle of the night almost no one is using the bandwidth. Unused bandwidth doesn't save T-Mobile any money.

If someone uses an LTE phone to upload 10 GB of data between 1 AM and 6 AM, nobody is affected. Let the 1% "hogs" have free run at night, just like the incredibly congested satellite providers do.

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Re: Truth

Why as a operator would I want to make the quality of my network go to crap at certain hours in the day? Not everyone has a 9-5 job and these networks must operate 24/7 for not just data but voice services as well. Networks operate like this already, but congestion is always a problem within a network that is shared among many users and overhead must be left due to subscriber growth and QOS.

The company isn't going to let you max out a connection just because you can, and why? People will abuse it, and it has been proven time and time again that they will. I am sure the company is also paying a good bill for that tower just to have those speeds available as well.

Also you don't know how the type of agreement they have at a cell site and to be fair neither do I. But I am not just going to make an assumption that unused bandwidth doesn't save T-mobile any money because they are probably paying per usage and easement rights at certain locations and it would cost them a fortune if someone was just running up the bill at night.

Even if they could, I doubt they would and if they did, you would need to pay more so the for profit company makes it's profit.
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Re: Truth

They pay flat rate for the site, regardless of how much it is used. Some more valuable sites, like one rural site in 20 miles on top of a hill, or one in a key urban area might be more valuable than another site with many options, but the rate is flat for a set of antennas or a tower, regardless whether they use them or not.
BiggA

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What's the point?
BiggA

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Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

Because T-Mobile has a LOT of it. AT&T, meanwhile will be chugging away at 3mbps.
iFail 5G

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Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

You have one bar. That's not really giving it a fair chance. AT&T has some EDGE areas, but there are many, many areas where T-Mobile has EDGE or GRPS, and AT&T has 3G or Faux G.
iFail 5G

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Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

said by BiggA:

You have one bar. That's not really giving it a fair chance. AT&T has some EDGE areas, but there are many, many areas where T-Mobile has EDGE or GRPS, and AT&T has 3G or Faux G.

I do agree there are many many many areas T-Mobile has only EDGE or GPRS. AT&T has a lot less, but still a good bit of EDGE. Unfortunately my area borders Faux G and EDGE
Better speeds in this one
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
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Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

OK, that's a fair shot. That's a good showing of how neglected AT&T's EDGE network is, as it can get up to around 200kbps in some places, but it most often does not, as that screenshot shows.
sexcho

join:2009-08-14
What is GRPS?
Many places where AT&T has EDGE, Verizon has 3G and LTE. What's your point again? T-Mobile's GPRS/EDGE coverage areas are closing in quick this year going straight to 4G, and there's not too many places where AT&T claims to have enhanced backhaul or HSPA and T-Mobile only has 2G.
BiggA

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Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

Apparently I can't type.

A place that AT&T has EDGE and Verizon has LTE is an extreme rarity. Most areas that Verizon has LTE, AT&T has Faux G. Whether it works correctly (I'm looking at you, NYC) is another story. There are also many areas where Verizon has an overloaded EVDO network that's chugging along at 1mbps, where AT&T has Faux G that's doing 3mbps on a bad day, and often cracking 6mbps.

There are a lot of areas that AT&T has regular 3G, and T-Mobile has no service or EDGE, and areas that AT&T has EDGE are mostly no service or maybe GPRS for T-Mobile.

fuziwuzi
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said by BiggA:

Because T-Mobile has a LOT of it. AT&T, meanwhile will be chugging away at 3mbps.

Nobody believes you.
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BiggA

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Re: Enjoy the EDGE and GRPS

Apparently you can't read a map.

fuziwuzi
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Atlanta, GA
The only location in the country that I have been where I had little or no phone service with T-Mobile (I tend to only go to metropolitan areas, and in those I always have great service) is at my parents in the rural mountains of Virginia. My brother and his wife, with AT&T iPhones, also had no service. My phone would intermittently get a brief signal, I would know because suddenly I would receive a text message. AT&T phones got nothing. I could also drive about 1 mile in either direction and get a steady 2 bars on 3G (this was with my old MyTouch 3G Slide). The AT&T phones would still be dead in that same location. Traveling to my sister's home, in a suburban area where cell towers are more prevalent, I had excellent reception, getting full 3G signal. AT&T phones only got an EDGE connection and calls were not reliable.

Most people who live in that area use Verizon or Sprint, as those get full signal all over that area. In the last 6 months, I've been informed that a new tower went up which improves the signal for both AT&T and T-Mobile. I haven't been back there to see the difference, though my brother tells me that on his last visit, his AT&T iPhone did get an EDGE connection and he could make/receive calls at my parent's home, which he could not do before.

In my own travels to Houston, LA, NYC, San Francisco, Dallas, OKC, Chicago, Spokane, Seattle, Charlotte, Raleigh, Miami, Jacksonville, New Orleans, San Diego, Cincinnati, Richmond, Washington DC I have always had excellent 3G/4G service with T-Mobile. Now with my MyTouch 4G Slide it is even faster.
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