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T-Mobile LTE Launch Expected Within Weeks
Las Vegas Expected to Be First Launch Market
by Karl Bode Monday 14-Jan-2013 tags: wireless · wireless
T-Mobile’s Chief Technology Officer Neville Ray has confirmed that T-Mobile's LTE network is expected to launch within a few weeks, with Las Vegas expected to be the first launch market. T-Mobile has previously stated that the company plans to launch LTE for 100 million pops by mid-year, with 200 million covered by the end of 2013. T-Mobile previously stated they will be launching the iPhone and doing away with subsidies sometime closer to the middle of the year. As Light Reading notes, if the LTE upgrades mirror those of the company's 42 Mbps HSPA+ upgrades, New York City, Philadelphia and Orlando could be next on deck.

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RR Conductor
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While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

T-Mobile, I think you have a problem. Not to mention losing over a million post paid customers last year, oops.
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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by RR Conductor:

T-Mobile, I think you have a problem. Not to mention losing over a million post paid customers last year, oops.

While I am not with T mobile , it's great that they are making progress. Good for them! and for people who live in cities like me in NYC , T Mobile for many of my friends seems good.

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While 1/3 of country can't even get ANY kind of T-Mobile service. That's why I find T-Mobile's "nationwide" claims amusing.
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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

The east coast gets it. The west coast gets it. Medium sized and larger cities in the central US get it. So they are technically nationwide.

That said, they're somewhere between Sprint and CricKet/MetroPCS in terms of just how nationwide they actually are. There's a reason that I don't have a T-Mobile phone, and it's not because they're bad where I spend 80% of my time...it's because the other 20% is crucial.

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if you haven't noticed, the US is freaking huge. Only one carrier has coverage "nationwide" and that would be Verizon. Get over yourself. T-Mobile is good enough for quite a few people.

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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by ArrayList:

if you haven't noticed, the US is freaking huge. Only one carrier has coverage "nationwide" and that would be Verizon. Get over yourself. T-Mobile is good enough for quite a few people.

if one company can do it ALL can do it.

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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by BF69:

said by ArrayList:

if you haven't noticed, the US is freaking huge. Only one carrier has coverage "nationwide" and that would be Verizon. Get over yourself. T-Mobile is good enough for quite a few people.

if one company can do it ALL can do it.

And i choose to pick the company that DOESN'T do it, and i get charged accordingly. If i wanted 4g LTE in "the dust bowl states" as the t-mobile ceo talked about with verizon, i would have been with them. I'm not. I don't understand why complete strangers bitch about the choice of other strangers phone companies. Kinda a waste of time.
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Me to their coverage sucks everywhere and they just run off old sprint from sprint changed to CDMA from GSM.

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said by BF69:

While 1/3 of country can't even get ANY kind of T-Mobile service. That's why I find T-Mobile's "nationwide" claims amusing.

Yes, we know you can't get them. You've made that point before.
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said by BF69:

While 1/3 of country can't even get ANY kind of T-Mobile service. That's why I find T-Mobile's "nationwide" claims amusing.

It's called roaming, and every provider relies on it to provide some service somewhere. However due to the cost they don't offer 'native' service in areas where the only roam.

djdanska
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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by tshirt:

said by BF69:

While 1/3 of country can't even get ANY kind of T-Mobile service. That's why I find T-Mobile's "nationwide" claims amusing.

It's called roaming, and every provider relies on it to provide some service somewhere. However due to the cost they don't offer 'native' service in areas where the only roam.

Not to mention they actually have service in tons of areas but don't actually sell service in.
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said by tshirt:

said by BF69:

While 1/3 of country can't even get ANY kind of T-Mobile service. That's why I find T-Mobile's "nationwide" claims amusing.

It's called roaming, and every provider relies on it to provide some service somewhere. However due to the cost they don't offer 'native' service in areas where the only roam.

Oh you can get 4G roaming? Um no. Not even 3G roaming. In fact when my nephew came to visit me he couldn't get ANY roaming. He couldn't even call or text anyone. So much for his "unlimited" everything.
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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by BF69:

Oh you can get 4G roaming? Um no. Not even 3G roaming. In fact when my nephew came to visit me he couldn't get ANY roaming. He couldn't even call or text anyone. So much for his "unlimited" everything.

I'd rather have unlimited most places I go instead of coverage almost everywhere but barely be able to use the service without costing an arm and a leg and another arm.

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AT&T go phones are the same, Prepaid may have coverage in a given area, but pay as you go phones won't connect/roam on higher priced networks so their coverage is far less than contract phones. and in some areas no "partner" exists, so roaming doesn't happen.
No agreement = no roaming
"Unlimited" will ALWAYS be constrained by cost, location, and items within the providers control, it does not mean NO physical or artificial barriers.
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said by RR Conductor:

T-Mobile, I think you have a problem. Not to mention losing over a million post paid customers last year, oops.

id give them time, they've been working on a lot.. heck look at what all they are doin, Merger, reframing, and LTE launch that's all quiet a bit of work. I personally can't wait to go to them in a few weeks from now!, Ive already unlocked my iphone and been checking coverage with a sim from them.. and coverage is surprisingly better than AT&T's here in town sometimes.. Now if only I knew if it was edge still or 3g for my iphone....

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Re: While vast areas of their network remain EDGE and GPRS

said by Cobra11M:

Ive already unlocked my iphone and been checking coverage with a sim from them.. and coverage is surprisingly better than AT&T's here in town sometimes.. Now if only I knew if it was edge still or 3g for my iphone....

It is almost certainly EDGE since 3G requires 1900Mhz refarming (since Apple did not include the 1700Mhz needed to get the original T-Mobile 3G support). If you are getting 3G there should be a 3G indicator on the display.
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What you failed to mention is that they _gained_ as many pre-paid customers as the lost in post paid. Oops.

They are also switching gears, probably based on this. No more subsidizing expenses phones and instead offering reduced monthly fees (as they are doing now). So if a person wants to bring their own phone or buy a reasonably prices Nexus or the like, they can enjoy a lower monthly fee then other carriers charge.

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missed CES

by about a month
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Re: missed CES

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Did they try to launch for CES and miss?

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Re: missed CES

said by BiggA:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Did they try to launch for CES and miss?

or maybe they were afraid CES would overwhelm them so they waited.
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Re: missed CES

With only a couple phones, and not being a dominant carrier in the first place, it would have been a good thing. I'm thinking they missed the boat on that one.

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great

im impatiently patiently waiting on LTE to initialize for Long island, NY before i root my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note 2).
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Re: great

I switched from att to T-Mobile almost two years ago and I've never looked back. I travel almost weekly for the military and have found their coverage very good. I can even use their wifi calling oconus without charge.
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Does anyone know what this new LTE plan is? Is that different from the plan to switch 3G from 1700 to 1900Mhz? My Galaxy S-2 says it has some LTE options but I don't know what they are for.
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Re: great

said by ArizonaSteve:

Does anyone know what this new LTE plan is? Is that different from the plan to switch 3G from 1700 to 1900Mhz? My Galaxy S-2 says it has some LTE options but I don't know what they are for.

According to T-Mobile, this upgrade comprises of a three-phase process: free up 2G spectrum, move HSPA+ to formerly 2G spectrum, and deploy LTE on formerly HSPA+ spectrum.

I.E. Most LTE on the AWS band.

more from the article.. "The final phase is actually the simplest one. The new equipment that T-Mobile is using for HSPA+ and LTE deployment supports remote software upgrades and reconfiguration. A network upgrade patch would be sent out to all stations with the new equipment, instructing cells to begin transmitting and receiving LTE on the AWS band. It is because of this that T-Mobile will be able to deploy LTE very quickly to a large portion of its native coverage once all the old equipment is replaced."
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T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

T-Mobile with Galaxy Nexus here.. $30 month plan and love it. HSPA+ speed is fantastic around here for me. Hard to beat a no contract Nexus and their $30 prepaid plan.
ArizonaSteve

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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

How can you get the $30 plan with a Galaxy Nexus? As far as I know only Walmart sells the $30 plan and they don't have the Nexus, just the S-2.
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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

Order the SIM card from T-Mobile and just signup.. no telling how many Nexus phones T-Mobile has put on this plan in the last year.

My monthly bill is actually around $28/month. Get time via Callingmart.com with 5% off and it is always under $30 a month. I have two phones on this plan and it is hard to beat for under $60/month. I don't do much calling though, but it is still only .10 min over. It is still a better deal than most even if you go over. I laugh when I hear about contracts and friends $100+ bills. Freaking no brainer

Just re-upped the wife's phone just now. Not bad

29.70 USD
'ca3p-1207' coupon (3.0% off)* -0.89 USD

Total
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»forum.xda-developers.com/showthr···=2001290

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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

So T-Mo is selling it directly now, not just through Walmart? The options on their website seems to change almost daily but the packages are still marked $50 in their stores, at least it was last time I checked. It looks like you still have to buy it as part of a package though since there's no way to buy just the data plan by itself. Like it says at the top of the page, 1. Buy Your Phone, 2. Ship Your Phone, 3. Activate and Pick Your Plan. There's no way to get just the plan so what did you do, buy a cheap phone from them and use the SIM in your Nexus you got from the Google Play store?
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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

No.. I ordered two phones from Play Store. Ordered two SIM cards from T-Mobile and activated the plan online. It is no mystery or anything new. This plan is not new at all. Just check XDA or Google $30 Tmobile plan
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>My monthly bill is actually around $28/month. Get time via Callingmart.com with 5% off and it is always under $30 a month.

Wait, you got a plan that's not available by itself, using it on a different kind of phone and it's even cheaper than advertised?
This is getting more and more unbelievable all the time! If that calling mart thing works it's a lot of trouble just to save 30 cents.
BTW, Do you know that if you miss a payment they can switch you back from the unlimited plan to the 30 MB plan? I know someone that it happened to!
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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

Dude.. what are you talking about? Just click the link on XDA or maybe read. Nothing to see here. This is all legit.
You are wrong about the payment too.

»lmgtfy.com/?q=T-Mobile+%2430+Pla···xy+Nexus

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Ehhh... no. The $30 plan is available straight off the bat assuming you ACTIVATE a brand-new SIM card on T-mobile (online/over the phone.) I have activated 3 prepaid SIM cards on T-mo's activation site so far (myself + my parents, and each time, I have seen the $30/5 GB plan option on the list of available plans to activate. The only catch is that the plan is a promotional plan (you can only pick it at activation... you cannot just activate the per-minute/some other plan off the bat and switch later, the plan is only for NEW activations.) Walmart just happens to resell phone+SIM packages tied to that plan, but T-mobile has been offering the plan directly for ages now...
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Re: T-Mobile + G Nexus FTW

And squashpile is also right regarding payment... they have a several-month period during which service will be suspended, IIRC, but once you add funds, your service will in fact be restored back to the old plan... I know because the auto-pay system had a glitch once where my account wasn't replenished... my service was suspended for a few hours, but once I topped up my account, I was back online on the plan I had signed up on originally...
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There is no "different kind of phone". They sell you a SIM card directly from T-Mobile.com (available by itself), and yes, it's common knowledge you can buy refills 2-5% cheaper on some bulk online sites. People who are more frugal than others end up with more money, so I can't blame someone for doing it.

And it's not "if you miss a payment" they switch you back. It's miss a payment then fail to reactivate it within 30 days. It happened to my line which I keep as a backup for testing phones. And if you call and get angry and tell them no one ever told you that, which no one ever told me (keep demanding to talk to someone in the United States), they'll switch you back "just once" according to them.

But it's not like the day it goes off you're switched back to the standard prepaid plan, it has to be off for 30 days.
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Just activated (another) T-Mobile SIM with the $30 plan earlier. SIM costs a whopping 99 cents. Thanks for the heads up on callingmart.com.

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!

Instead of saying "Oh cool T-mobile is now getting LTE launched and pushing America's broadband to compete with other countries we envy". We cry about how Verizon has LTE deployed all over and to hell with any other carrier does.

What a bunch of clowns.

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I have a Nexus 4 and an iPhone 5 on the T-mobile $30 plan (unlimited text, 5GB 4G and 100min). I only pay $26.99 per month per phone, if you look hard enough. CallingMart is nice too as you accumulate points. I'm saving $65 a month with T-Mobile.

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Unfortunately that's what happens anytime anyone discusses T-mobile. You get the coverage,coverage, edge complaint and no one talks about the actual headline.

What I don't get is that, I don't think their is a single T-mobile customer who doesn't get the fact that in comparison to the other big three, T-mobile's coverage is not as comprehensive. For myself in NJ and the places I travel mostly in the Northeast, coverage is very good and the speeds are fantastic, I don't feel I downgraded at all from Verizon LTE and people who live in areas like mine (who often rarely travel to the more rural areas) That's who T-mobile is currently focusing on and it makes good economic sense that they do for now.

We get that they're weaker in the middle of the country, as well as some other areas, but the truth is that many on the East and West coasts never go there, and even among those that do, it's normally just to the cities. The definitely have more concentrated coverage on the West and East Coast. T-mobile doesn't have the huge coffers that AT&T and Verizon has, for now they have to target upgrades to the places that will get them the most bang for their buck and that means the densely populated East and West Coasts as well as a few other areas. For those of us who live in well covered areas it's a great network that saves us quite a bit of money.

Hopefully all of their work will pay off and the subscriber base in these areas, thanks to LTE and the addition of the iPhone this year, will grow and then they can invest more in the middle of the country. You can't expect a cash strapped company to just overnight deploy 4G everywhere.

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Re: !

I think you need to substitute California for West Coast. T-Mobile does not have near the coverage of AT&T in WA and OR.
Just sayin, as I am a MVNO/WIND Canada roamer on T-Mobile.
T-Mobile does not cover suburban Seattle with 3G in the Seattle suburbs. I am only 12 miles from Seattle city limits, and our coverage is inconsistent to dropping inside the house. The big three cover our area very well. I know LG phones may not work at all on our street when I hear guests visiting saying 'my phone doesn't work'. We need a closer tower and/or pointed our way. The micro tower a little over a mile away is pathetic in our wooded area. Our house is actually on a ridge. Even Sprint figured out our area like 8+ years ago.

tmh

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Foget it

How about extending 42 Mbps HSPA+everywhere? Then work on LTE.

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Still a pig

I don't care how many dresses or shades of lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig. Until I start seeing applications for new towers within 50 miles of me it is smoke and mirrors.

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Re: Still a pig

I think everyone whom doesn't have good coverage with Tmobile in their area will complain. The others whom have great coverage love Tmobile. It is what it is. Unless you got the money in your pocket to put up more cell towers then either you use Tmobile or you don't. No need for an argument over it.

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Re: Still a pig

Not trying to start any argument, the facts are in the numbers when you follow all 4 providers and there new/planned towers you start to see a pattern.

Some quick math, Tmobile got paid 6.68 billion for the botched deal
»www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2···533.html

According to this website »www.quora.com/Telecommunications···ll-tower the average full cost for a tower is $250,000 we will bump that up to $300,000. lets take just one billion and divide that by $300,000 and you should come up with 3333,333333....... you get the point. That is a awful lot of towers you can build from money that came into your company's coffers that wasn't even planned for.

I am no cell phone company CEO by any means but I would think that I would want more customers so putting up more towers might be a wise investment.

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