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T-Mobile Launches IPv6 Beta
Though you need a Nokia phone and lots of patience...
by Karl Bode 01:03PM Friday Aug 06 2010
T-Mobile is joining Comcast and Verizon (on the landline front) in pushing the long-overdue IPv6 ball forward, and has started their IPv6 user trials. According to this T-Mobile Google Group posting, users interested in participating must be a T-Mobile USA subscriber with an unlimited data plan in a T-Mobile coverage area (not roaming), and you must have a Nokia 5230 Nuron, Nokia E73 or Nokia N900 phone. T-Mobile notes that your participation might not be particularly fun, given that "services like Visual Voice Mail, MyAccount, MMS (picture messages), and several other services do not yet work," and your only avenue of support will be the via the Google Group they created. In other words, as T-Mobile puts it, this is only for users who are "feeling adventurous."

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jlivingood
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Great News

This seems like really positive news from T-Mobile. Another big IP network operator testing and readying IPv6 is great news for the Internet.
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JL
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lhasa01

join:2010-08-07

Re: Great News

and more complex network will come soon
can not imagine that
jima

join:2010-08-09
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Great News

Can you possibly tell me that IPv6 is that much more complicated than the bogon craziness T-Mobile has been doing as a result of the IPv4 crunch?

»blog.wireshark.org/2010/04/t-mob···-insane/
AVonGauss
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New IPv6 Trial

So when does the DSLReports IPv6 trial begin? All these new IPv6 users are going to need web destinations to visit via IPv6.

whfsdude
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Re: New IPv6 Trial

said by AVonGauss:

So when does the DSLReports IPv6 trial begin? All these new IPv6 users are going to need web destinations to visit via IPv6.
Would be pretty awesome to see AAAA's on DSLR at least get a ipv6.dslreports.com

TomS_
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Re: New IPv6 Trial

Ive already asked twice (once direct to Justin a while back, once with a thread in the feedback forum just recently), didnt get an official response on either occasion.

Would love to see dslr on IPv6 though, its by far one of the sites I visit most.

»[request] IPv6 enabled, when?

As you can see the cablibre of responses was ... less than desirable...

whfsdude
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Re: New IPv6 Trial

Doesn't sound like there much of a technical reason why it can't be done.

Their colo provider Net Access Corp now has v6 connectivity.

Jim Kirk
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Try typing this on your smart phone

"http://fe80::200:f8ff:fe21:67cf"
lesopp

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Land O Lakes, FL

Re: Try typing this on your smart phone

A link local address?

Simba7
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Billings, MT

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Cell Phones should've already been on IPv6..

I think Cell Phones should have already been on IPv6. It's no wonder that IPv4 addresses are getting eaten alive.

Of course, this should have happened a decade ago.

Eagle97

@t-mobile.com

Finally IPv6!

This is definitely good news. Between HSPA+ and IPv6 T-Mobile is really starting to build a new imagine around the best technology.

theMan44

@comcast.net

android

too bad android phones aren't supported since the Linux kernel has IPv6 support built in..

whfsdude
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Re: android

said by theMan44 :

too bad android phones aren't supported since the Linux kernel has IPv6 support built in..
Qualcomm radio chipset doesn't support it. Android supports it over WiFi and on some devices via different radio chipsets.

tiger72
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My old htc g1 would display ipv6 addresses whenever I would list all interfaces...
wierdo

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Tulsa, OK

Quite limited, hardware-wise

Interesting that it's limited to those particular phones. Perhaps it only works on 3G? Nokia phones have generally had IPv6 capability for quite some time now. (or at least have had the option available in the UI, whether or not it actually worked)
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34764170

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Re: Quite limited, hardware-wise

said by wierdo:

Interesting that it's limited to those particular phones. Perhaps it only works on 3G? Nokia phones have generally had IPv6 capability for quite some time now. (or at least have had the option available in the UI, whether or not it actually worked)
Its limited to Nokia phones because they're of the very few that support IPv6 over the 3G interface and not just the Wifi interface like iOS, Android and some others.
wierdo

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Re: Quite limited, hardware-wise

said by 34764170:

Its limited to Nokia phones because they're of the very few that support IPv6 over the 3G interface and not just the Wifi interface like iOS, Android and some others.
And they have for a while, hence my wondering why it's limited to those specific Nokia phones.
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34764170

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Re: Quite limited, hardware-wise

said by wierdo:

said by 34764170:

Its limited to Nokia phones because they're of the very few that support IPv6 over the 3G interface and not just the Wifi interface like iOS, Android and some others.
And they have for a while, hence my wondering why it's limited to those specific Nokia phones.
Nokia does not support IPv6 on all of their phones. That should be pretty obvious.
wierdo

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Re: Quite limited, hardware-wise

said by 34764170:

Nokia does not support IPv6 on all of their phones. That should be pretty obvious.
Do you just not read my posts or what? Every Nokia smartphone I've used since 2005 has supported IPv6.

I have four presently in my possession that have IPv6 support but are not on the list. (and one that does and is)
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tmojoe

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FYI, the beta service is not itself device limited. Any standards compliant GSM (2G) or UMTS (3G) device with the proper T-Mobile frequency bands can work on the trial. But, T-Mobile is only aware of Nokia devices that work. They are totally open to working with new devices beyond Nokia, the issue is that as far as they know, other devices that can support IPv6 on the mobile radio do not yet exist. This includes Apple, Android, Windows Mobile, ....
wierdo

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Re: Quite limited, hardware-wise

said by tmojoe :

FYI, the beta service is not itself device limited. Any standards compliant GSM (2G) or UMTS (3G) device with the proper T-Mobile frequency bands can work on the trial. But, T-Mobile is only aware of Nokia devices that work. They are totally open to working with new devices beyond Nokia, the issue is that as far as they know, other devices that can support IPv6 on the mobile radio do not yet exist. This includes Apple, Android, Windows Mobile, ....
So it's not just 3G? Good news. T-Mo's 3G coverage around these parts isn't all that great. I've been hoping they'll expand it somewhat so I can switch.
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endorendil

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IPV6 silliness

If TMO handed out NAT'ted IPv4 addresses, they weren't using up scarce IPv4 addresses anyway. So all that this switch to IPv6 achieves is that your cellphone can now be reached from the internet. That is in contrast to NAT'ted cellphones, which have to initiate each contact with another device on the internet. Of course they can initiate a contact with a service (such as skype) and then they are reachable through that service.

So what is gained here, except the fact that your phone is now subject to incoming traffic it did not request (and therefor has to be protected against)?

I can see many reasons for IPv6, but putting it on mobile phones? Totally pointless.

chowtown

@comcast.net

Re: IPV6 silliness

ummmmm. Well. You are aware that IPv4 is running out by the end of the year, right ? And, you are aware that mobile subscribers keep growing because everyone has or is getting a smartphone with a data plan, and a tablet computer, and a USB data card, and a car with OnStar, and a water meter that needs 3G too (smartgrid).... and all those things need IP addresses. So, in fact, mobile is the place where IPv6 is NEEDED THE MOST since the pace of subscriber additions keeps increasing. I think T-Mobile is really ahead of the curve on this one and stands win big in many ways, especially in the fast growing machine to machine (smart grid) area.