T-Mobile May Sue Over FCC Free Wireless Plan Interference Jedi mind trick didn't work, carrier fires up lawyers... FCC boss Kevin Martin and M2Z Networks' plan for a smut-censored free national wireless service recently ran into opposition from T-Mobile, who claimed that the technology being used (Time Division Duplex (TDD)) caused interference. This claim was made despite the annoying fact that T-Mobile has used this same technology extensively overseas without problems. T-Mobile's fairly obvious attempt to stifle competition and protect their own spectrum interests hit a setback last week when FCC engineers reported that there were no interference concerns (pdf). Undeterred, T-Mobile is apparently considering their legal options: (T-Mobile) said the companies and organizations against the auction will file a joint letter very soon, similar to a Sept. 10 letter objecting to the recent findings. If the FCC still votes in favor of the auction, then the objecting parties will consider litigation, she said. There is also the possibility of issue reconsideration by different FCC leadership under the next U.S. president, she noted. If Kevin Martin's wireless pet project can get past incumbent lawyers and their bottomless checkbooks, it still faces strong opposition from those who think a government-sponsored censored Internet is unconstitutional.
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | T-Mobile would know if the technology caused interference
T-Mobile, who claimed that the technology being used (Time Division Duplex (TDD)) caused interference. This claim was made despite the annoying fact that T-Mobile has used this same technology extensively overseas. Since they use the technology elsewhere they would know if it caused interference since they would be the one getting complaints that they caused interference. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
|  |  | | Re: T-Mobile would know if the technology caused interference said by ThrowDemsOut:T-Mobile, who claimed that the technology being used (Time Division Duplex (TDD)) caused interference. This claim was made despite the annoying fact that T-Mobile has used this same technology extensively overseas. Since they use the technology elsewhere they would know if it caused interference since they would be the one getting complaints that they caused interference. ... and yet T-Mobile still continues to use it.
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|  |  |  | | Re: T-Mobile would know if the technology caused interference What needs to be done is find the company that owns the spectrum right next to Tmobile's in that other country, then let them know that according to Tmobile themselves their use of that technology is causing interference issues for that other company. Then that company could sue Tmobile and what could Tmobile do? They either would have to admit they're causing harm there and pay that company, or admit they're making up the whole "this technology causes interference" claim here and fight the lawsuit there. | |
|  |  |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: T-Mobile would know if the technology caused interference It could be possible that the adjacent spectrum in those cases is owned by T-Mobile or had been deliberately left unused by the local FCC-equivalent as a "white space" because of interference concerns. | |
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 |  Seven1 join:2002-07-24 Lexington, KY 1 edit | Nobody can be this antisocial. | |
|  |  | | how CONVINIENT you mis-quoted the little blurb on the mater. Your quote should read: T-Mobile, who claimed that the technology being used (Time Division Duplex (TDD)) caused interference. This claim was made despite the annoying fact that T-Mobile has used this same technology extensively overseas WITHOUT PROBLEMS.
i suppose mis-quoting in such a way that supports their point is nothing new for political nut jobs or trolls. | |
|  |  |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: T-Mobile would know if the technology caused interference said by cornelius785:how CONVINIENT you mis-quoted the little blurb on the mater. Your quote should read: T-Mobile, who claimed that the technology being used (Time Division Duplex (TDD)) caused interference. This claim was made despite the annoying fact that T-Mobile has used this same technology extensively overseas WITHOUT PROBLEMS. i suppose mis-quoting in such a way that supports their point is nothing new for political nut jobs or trolls. I didn't MISQUOTE it. Karl, as he often does, edited the original story in response to posts that have been made. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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 |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: shooo shooo..... What is a troll anyway? Anyone who you don't like? | |
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 mrchrisOut and aroundPremium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | It is Someone who posts stuff, usually irrelavant to the topic to get a response...any response from people. TK Junk Mail aka Big Business Supporter, does this all the time so just ignore his flawed or pro-business blabber. | |
|  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: It is But his response seemed quite relevant to the topic at hand.
Anyway, the big business position doesn't get ignored in the real world... it exists, and there's a lot of money behind it. You can't just ignore it... if you can't challenge it in an internet forum like this, how can you expect your position to have any relevancy anywhere?
Gah, that has to be the worst-worded post ever, hopefully it still made some sense. | |
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I don't agree with most of his statements, but they are still a good thing to have. I love online news and message boards because you get people who are favorable to all sides of the topic. But if we follow your lead and get rid of everyone who doesn't support your opinion, then we will have a one sided news site that won't be near as good. | |
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 RayWPremium join:2001-09-01 Layton, UT kudos:1 | for those who think there is more to the story... »www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=161764 "M2Z Networks has pointed out that T-Mobile is currently providing broadband services in the Czech Republic using similar spectrum and similar technical rules to those that the FCC plans to adopt for the free broadband service. According to the report from the Czech Telecommunications Office, T-Mobile's broadband service is operating with well-established standard power limits and without having to use spectrum guard bands." As the magazine said in the July 29, 2008 issue, T-mobile is not interfering using similar (that is a slippery word) technology it claims does interferes.
Of course, it is ironic that T-Mobile appears to be cherry picking information "prove" their point against the FCC just like the FCC did to "prove" that BPL did not interfere with the folks who use the RF spectrum and was cost effective for the power-line companies.
All to keep us, the consumer, as nice little slaves to the corporate masters. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
|  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA 1 edit | Re: for those who think there is more to the story... A very useful article on the subject.
More details on T-Mobile's Czech operations, from T-Mobile Czech Republic's press arm: (»en.t-press.cz/tiskove_zpravy/2005/508/) "T-Mobile aims to maximize the value of its acquired UMTS license by using UMTS TDD technology operating in its "unpaired" 1.9 GHz UMTS spectrum. It will be world's fastest commercial UMTS network, capable of delivering peak sector speeds of up to 4.5 Mbps (average user experience runs to 512 Kbps)."
And T-Mobile's response to this argument: (»www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/···08-08-04) "T-Mobile has countered M2Z, saying that the company's argument was simplistic. According to a statement in Wireless Week, T-Mobile said: "There are important distinctions between the Czech Republic situation and the AWS-3 band in the United States that M2Z has conveniently chosen to ignore." The carrier said its Czech operations are subject to stringent technical mandates and standards that limit out-of-band emissions. It also said its Czech operations are governed by a 5 megahertz guard band between TDD and FDD operations. M2Z, on the other hand, is proposing no guard band for the AWS-3 spectrum." | |
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