It kind of went without saying given the recent launch of MetroPCS's BYOD program, but T-Mobile says that their migration of MetroPCS users to the T-Mobile network is well ahead of their planned schedule. It has been less than two months after the ink was dry on the deal, and the company is already speeding along with their plan to shut down the MetroPCS CDMA network, use that network for LTE deployment, then continue running MetroPCS as a prepaid brand. "The moment that NYSE bell rang on May 1, we put it into high gear and hit the gas," insists T-Mobile CEO John Legere.
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What about areas like ours?
Here in Mendocino County in NW CA, T-Mobile is pretty much all EDGE (they have a TINY bit of slow 3G up in Fort Bragg), while Metro PCS is 100% LTE. Granted, T-Mobile has more coverage, but still. Surely T-Mobile wouldn't shut down Metro's LTE network and force people over to T-Mobile 2G EDGE network, or would they? They should integrate Metro's LTE network here into their network, it would give them instant LTE in cities like Ukiah. -- »www.nwprailroad.com »www.nwprr.net »www.skunktrain.com »www.amtrak.com »www.amtrakcalifornia.com »www.up.com »www.bnsf.com
2013-Jun-25 7:07 am: ·
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They are merging the MetroPCS LTE customer base over to one network platform.
You would sooner see T-Mobile upgrade the area to 3G/4G, but they also need to offer better incentives to get the Metro customers to give up their existing CDMA phones for HSPA+/LTE ones.
I read that they did a study, where they found over 60% of the MetroPCS customers are already using LTE phones for VoLTE and data, so they may only require a SIM card swap to move from one network to the other. -- ROCK 'TIL SUNSET
Currently in FL, the dominant is Metro PCS vs T-mobile. I still haven't seen anything about t-mobile customers using metro pcs's towers so for us t-mobile customers can start using metros network to get better signal. Anyone seen anything about this?
LTE is only for the data. Those phones use CDMA for voice, not GSM like the T-Mobile network. As far as Voice over LTE, to the best of my knowledge no U.S. carrier uses that yet. But even if some MetroPCS handsets support VoLTE, that would only affect the small percentage of MetroPCS with VoLTE equipment. And even so, T-Mobile's GSM network doesn't support VoLTE. So I don't see how they will be able to use MetroPCS phones for voice calls once TMO shuts down the CDMA network.
So you are saying that, for example, a Verizon and Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 CDMA/LTE phone can be enabled on any GSM network (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) with a firmware update or user hacking?
2013-Jun-25 11:40 am: ·
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Re: What about handsets
It's a definite maybe. Depending on your carrier, it would have to be unlocked or updated as you say, US Manufacturers aren't big on fully inter-operable phones, but the S4 is about as close as it gets. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
yeap, they can be with out unlocking, no need to hack it.
my vzw note 2 is rooted, and i frequently take out the sim and use a tmobile sim when I am looking to roam internationally. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"
It really depends on the handset. Newer handsets use unified chipsets so if the frequencies you are looking for are supported, then you are good. If you go to phonescoop and type in the model (as there may be say different Samsung S4) it will tell you what bands it supports in voice and/or data. Note voice and data are typically different frequencies, so be casreful.
If you phone does not support the data bands, then typically you will have to run over the legacy 3G networks (EDGE for GSM or worse).
Tmobile in the US uses different frequencies that the rest of the GSM providers (AT&T included), so their phones may not be compatible in or out. TMO in EMEA uses typical frequencies so an AT&T phone may run 3G just fine in EMEA using TMO. YMMV. TMO is "refarming" so that they will put LTE in the current 3G (HSPA) freq bands and shift 3G around to have better compatibility but that will be a process. So say older iphones (AT&T) will now work in HSPA (vs EDGE) in refarmed cities.
As for CDMA, outside of a few countries, it's all GSM. Canada an Mexico use typical CDMA frequencies so that is not usually an issue.
The BIG gotcha is the LTE bands supported. They are ALL over the map and until this settles down LTE in general may be limited to a subset of who you bought the phone from. VoLTE similar issue, since the LTE band needs support to run. VoLTE will be another vendor lockin play if the chipsets cant keep pace...We will see.
ATT, T-mobile, MetroPCS, Cricket all use AWS for LTE (ATT also uses 700mhz) Verizon is said to be rolling AWS LTE soon to raise capacity in their LTE signal. I think that it's safe to say that other than Sprint, AWS will be used, at least partially, by most carriers in the US.
All t-mobile areas with LTE are implemented by being refarmed, putting HSPA on the PCS frequency (1900). As more and more areas get LTE so will the 1900 HSPA signal.
There are many people using various unlocked verizon handsets with t-mobile sim cards in them. Not as many with Sprint phones because sprint soldered the sim card on most of their LTE devices until very recently.
Not as many with Sprint phones because sprint soldered the sim card on most of their LTE devices until very recently.
Yea, Sprint finally figured out that a SIM is delicate, they can be easily destroyed by static electricity, and they also can suddenly burn out for no apparent reason(some SIM manufacturers have had a bit of bad luck with random batches of them).
A bad replaceable SIM means just that, a bad soldered SIM means the end of the whole phone. -- ROCK 'TIL SUNSET
Over the last 2 weeks I've noticed that my data speeds have been going crazy. Last night I was sitting in my living room and I noticed that the LTE icon appeared on my phone. It didn't last long though.
This morning I was driving down the street heading east and I got the icon again. I ran a speed test and it was NIIIIIICE!! I live in the Hickory Hill area of Memphis. I figure at some point T-Mobile is gonna activate us in Memphis with LTE.