 BuzzDar join:2006-01-28 West Frankfort, IL | Sounds Like a Good Idea TO Me Sounds like a good idea to me But question is does it really work. | |
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 |  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL 1 edit | Re: Sounds Like a Good Idea TO Me said by BuzzDar:Sounds like a good idea to me But question is does it really work. I use their UMA service with a Nokia 6086, and yes, it really works. Call audio fidelity over VOIP is similar to that of land-line and is superior to cellular. Traffic utilization is minimal around 30 to 40 Kbps. VOIP traffic appears to be routed over an IPSEC VPN tunnel.
I use QoS to give the UMA service the highest priority to ensure there is no jitter.
I am seriously considering their Talk@Home service. | |
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 |  |  rupaPremium join:2006-06-21 Dallas, TX | Re: Sounds Like a Good Idea TO Me I'd just on it right away if they offered the fancy call routing features callvantage offers. Call 1 number and get all cell phones on the family plan to ring at once. Until then, no go.
I'd use grandjunction but I'd have to control outgoing CID to be the grand junction # otherwise people just return the phone call on the cell # and then I don't get the house phone to ring... | |
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 |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by evilghost:said by BuzzDar:Sounds like a good idea to me But question is does it really work. I use their UMA service with a Nokia 6086, and yes, it really works. Call audio fidelity over VOIP is similar to that of land-line and is superior to cellular. Traffic utilization is minimal around 30 to 40 Kbps. VOIP traffic appears to be routed over an IPSEC VPN tunnel. I use QoS to give the UMA service the highest priority to ensure there is no jitter. I am seriously considering their Talk@Home service. It sure looks like a good deal. Now if Verizon only offered something similar. But since it would cannibalize their landline business, I doubt they will offer it soon. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Are you using their Linksys or Dlink router? I have the 6086, I bought it because I have no coverage in my new house, and cell phone coverage wasn't really a consideration when buying. But I've never been able to get the phone to hold a conection with any router I've tried. That includes a WRT54GX2, my current Buffalo WZR2-G300N, and the Verizon Provided Actiontec. I've spent hours on the phone with T-Mobile and keep getting the same exact run around, and I've had the handset replaced once, and even bought the Samsung only to return it. On the otherhand my Viatalk service is working wonderfully now that I have FIOS. -- Retaking our country one election at a time. | |
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 |  |  |  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL | Re: Sounds Like a Good Idea TO Me said by xrobertcmx:Are you using their Linksys or Dlink router? I have the 6086, I bought it because I have no coverage in my new house, and cell phone coverage wasn't really a consideration when buying. But I've never been able to get the phone to hold a conection with any router I've tried. That includes a WRT54GX2, my current Buffalo WZR2-G300N, and the Verizon Provided Actiontec. I've spent hours on the phone with T-Mobile and keep getting the same exact run around, and I've had the handset replaced once, and even bought the Samsung only to return it. On the otherhand my Viatalk service is working wonderfully now that I have FIOS. I am using Tomato GNU/Linux 1.16 on a Buffalo WHR-G54S with QoS configured to always prio the phones. I created a DHCP lease reservation based on MAC so both phones (wife's and mine) are configured with the same IANA reserved address.
I eventually disabled wireless on the WHR-G54S due to sporadic reboot as a result of specific wireless behavior and a buggy wl.o drive. I am now using WAP54G as an AP which connects to the WHR-G54S. | |
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| Re: Sounds Like a Good Idea TO Me Thank you, I've never looked at Tomato. I have DD-WRT on an old WRT54G in my upstairs office, I use it as a bridge. I had the Buffalo reserve an address for the phone, and though I had QOS set up right. Maybe it is time for me to sit down and play with this again. I just got tired of the error codes. -- Retaking our country one election at a time. | |
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 |  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL | Glad to help. I do know that the 6086 requires a DHCP server for IP address assignment. If there is no contactable DHCP server the phone will fail to associate to the AP and the HS@Home service.
If you need to troubleshoot some of the connectivity issues I static compiled tcpdump for Tomato mips arch. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | $10/mo plus taxes and fees
Don't forget taxes and fees. When you add in all the gov't taxes & fees like USF, 911, excise tax, etc, you may pay close to $20/mo for that $10 phone line. | |
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 |  jgkoltPremium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH | Re: $10/mo plus taxes and fees i doubt the taxes will be that high. My taxes for my whole plan are about 7% or 8%. I think it is a great idea. If i needed a home line i would go for it in a heart beat. I know people that do the what thye are talking about with a dock and go cradle instead of just a sim card. either way if promoted right this could be huge!! -- 3 free for you/3 free for me: Free Stock Trades : PM Me | |
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1 edit | Could be better Wish they would add a true voip service for home like vonage. Give us an ata and 1 bill for cell and home. Make calls to and from home and cell free.
Family plan type deal. Like with me they would get 2 cells and 1 home phone line. Thats if T-mobile had decent service in my area. | |
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 |  | | Re: Could be better Thats pretty much what this is, straight up VOIP from T-Mobile.
You port your landline number to TMO and they give you a sim card. Your sim card plugs into the router, and you connect the router to your internet. Then your home phone connects to the router and acts like a regular land line. This doesn't require a UMA phone at all, however from what I hear the UMA phones will work. | |
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1 edit | Re: Could be better Good deal. I guess I should have been paying attention more. Why use a wireless router? Instead of just a normal ata that plugs in behind the router or use ata with built in router. Would be cheaper.
Looking at the site I guess I would replace my dlink di-624 with this router. Still have wired and wireless connection so that wouldn't be to bad. | |
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 |  |  |  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium join:2005-01-03 | Re: Could be better said by dcurrey:Why use a wireless router? Instead of just a normal ata that plugs in behind the router or use ata with built in router. They built it into a wireless router so you can also use UMA with your cell phone (original @home service). That way one device can give you both real voip landline and UMA service in one package. | |
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 | | Their router Can you use your own router for their current Hotspot@Home?
Since I've got two access points in the house using Channels 1 and 11 ehh hang their router off my existing router.. different subnet... channel 6 maybe?
They don't throw in the phone, it's $60. However, it seems to indicate that existing phone systems can be plugged directly into the router? | |
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 |  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL | Re: Their router said by Uncle Paul:Can you use your own router for their current Hotspot@Home? Since I've got two access points in the house using Channels 1 and 11 ehh hang their router off my existing router.. different subnet... channel 6 maybe? They don't throw in the phone, it's $60. However, it seems to indicate that existing phone systems can be plugged directly into the router? Yes, you can use your own for HS@Home. I use a WHR-G54S with Tomato GNU/Linux 1.16 | |
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 |  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium join:2005-01-03 | said by Uncle Paul:They don't throw in the phone, it's $60. However, it seems to indicate that existing phone systems can be plugged directly into the router? Yes, the article says that you can plug in any regular landline telephone just like with a Vonage ATA. | |
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 | | Comparable to Vonage? For those of you who use it already, would it be comparable to Vonage and the likes of VoIP companies?
That's who I have now and though I'm ok with the service I don't mind switching over and trying the T-mobile service.
Also, does it require me buying a special phone- handset- from Tmobile?
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 |  Bahamut XPremium join:2000-12-09 Fort Worth, TX | Re: Comparable to Vonage? said by markyman:Also, does it require me buying a special phone- handset- from Tmobile? Any thoughts? I've used it and it's a pretty nice sound, yes. Can't compare to vonage though, as I've not used them.
You do NOT have to have a special phone, but do have to have the "Talk Forever Home Phone" router since this service still requires SIM cards for account details (Billing, Provisioning, etc) -- I Play WoW. I Work for T-Mobile (and everything I say or do here does not reflect on them). I hate drama. That about covers it. | |
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| said by markyman:For those of you who use it already, would it be comparable to Vonage and the likes of VoIP companies? That's who I have now and though I'm ok with the service I don't mind switching over and trying the T-mobile service. Also, does it require me buying a special phone- handset- from Tmobile? Any thoughts? It's comparable to Vonage but it's always dependent on how your computer connects to their service (Vonage or T-Mobile).
You can use any phone you want. It has 2 RJ-11 outlets (if it's the same one I've already seen in the news) and you need a SIM card for each outlet. Once the SIM card is installed, it doesn't care what kind of RJ-11 phone you plug into it.
Question: Does it fall over to the T-Mobile cellular network if wireless goes down? I had been led to believe it would from earlier news reports about this product. | |
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 | | What a Crock 1) Its not a landline. A landline does not require a router. This is VOIP (which informs #3 below), with a GSM twist.
2) Its not $10. It requires a broadband connection .
3) It doesn't work.
4) See #3.
I have Hotspot @ Home. I've had it since the initial rollout. You don't want it. | |
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 |  InsderThere never was a second I in my namePremium join:2005-04-27 Salem, MA | Re: What a Crock Your descriptive comments and wonderful numbering scheme intrigue me! Please sir, might I suscribe to your newsletter?! -- The one, the only, the Insder. :: Fighting phishing for life. | |
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 capkingy join:2003-06-06 North Kingstown, RI | Wheres the 911 support? My only concern about this is the 911 support or apparent lack of it. I would not get this service if I had small childern or senior adults to take care of. A traditional wired land line is the best to ensure that help will arrive if you need it. Cable or FIOS phone service seems safer than this. There does not seem to be any 911 information on t-mobiles website. This would make a great secondary line for the teenagers. | |
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