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story category T-Mobile Playing 3G Coverage Catch Up
And doing a pretty good job of it...
05:58PM Thursday Sep 03 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: coverage · business · wireless
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Being the first carrier to launch a phone with the Android OS got T-Mobile lots of attention, though it also drew attention to the fact the carrier's 3G HSDPA network footprint was a little lacking. T-Mobile faced delays in getting the network up and running, and in 2008 blamed Uncle Sam for being slow to vacate the 1700MHz spectrum they purchased from the old fellow. They've since been playing catch up, T-Mobile CEO Neville Ray promised 208 million POPs and 300 markets in 2009, and it looks like they're keeping that promise. The carrier has launched 3G in over 150 cities since the beginning of this year, or a new city getting launched every day and a half. Their coverage map has struggled to keep pace.


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Boricua65

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Sacramento maybe?

My best friend has T-Mo and was wondering if maybe they'll have 3G here.

en102
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

Yes it does.

What makes T-Mobile a bit 'easier' to deploy is that they do not have to perform any spectrum migration. Its all clean AWS spectrum.
On the bad side... AWS 3G devices aren't so plentiful - yet.
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RiseAbove
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

said by en102 See Profile :

Yes it does.

AWS 3G devices aren't so plentiful - yet.
Very True I am hoping T-Mo gets a clue and starts using 900 for 3G also. That way you can use the 900 for downstream and 2100 for upstream which would let you use a lot of European phones with 3G on those frequencies.
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

said by RiseAbove See Profile :

said by en102 See Profile :

Yes it does.

AWS 3G devices aren't so plentiful - yet.
Very True I am hoping T-Mo gets a clue and starts using 900 for 3G also. That way you can use the 900 for downstream and 2100 for upstream which would let you use a lot of European phones with 3G on those frequencies.
That spectrum isn't up for use per the FCC.
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

said by Gbcue See Profile :

said by RiseAbove See Profile :

said by en102 See Profile :

Yes it does.

AWS 3G devices aren't so plentiful - yet.
Very True I am hoping T-Mo gets a clue and starts using 900 for 3G also. That way you can use the 900 for downstream and 2100 for upstream which would let you use a lot of European phones with 3G on those frequencies.
That spectrum isn't up for use per the FCC.
Ah. Then maybe putting the 3g on the 1900 to, I know they use that for pretty much all of their cellphone service. A lot of those phones being made now are using 1800/1900/2100 for 3g so it would still work.
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unoriginal

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Re: Sacramento maybe?

T-Mo uses 1900 for their voice network and edge. All of their 3G action is happening on the AWS spectrum.

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said by Boricua65 See Profile :

My best friend has T-Mo and was wondering if maybe they'll have 3G here.
Sacramento has already had 3G for over a year.
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sapo
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

Yeah I am confused, I have been using T-Mobile 3G in Sac since the beginning of Summer.
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Re: Sacramento maybe?

said by sapo See Profile :

Yeah I am confused, I have been using T-Mobile 3G in Sac since the beginning of Summer.
T-Mobile 3G has been available in Sacramento since summer of 2008.
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Gilitar

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What about coverage?

Really with the lack of roaming agreements and the spotty coverage what does it matter anyway?

rawgerz
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Re: What about coverage?

I think I saw they charged $.50 per roaming minute.. no thanks

EvelKub
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Re: What about coverage?

T-Mobile includes domestic roaming in their national plans, it just comes out of the applicable bucket.

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said by rawgerz See Profile :

I think I saw they charged $.50 per roaming minute.. no thanks
Where does it say that?
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Re: What about coverage?

»https://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm20121···eIndex=3
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Re: What about coverage?

That's obsolete if you have a national plan (which almost everyone does). Home areas are only applicable to the old regional plans, and even those included off-network (ie att and other GSM networks) within the home area. That .49/min charge was for outside of the regional plan home area.
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itnetpro

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Na, I manage a T-Mobile and in our area, all plans now include nationwide roaming.

bender
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I travel all over the place on T-Mobile and no roaming charges... not a 1

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For the most part, if there is no tmobile coverage and another gsm provider, they usually have a roaming agreement. They dont have a very large one with att and they dont really have in market roaming. I rarely have issues with roaming where i go. There are some exceptions still though. And i have no clue where the other person read about charging for roaming. Its included with national plans. (most are. Its pretty rare for someone to have the 3000 minute $50 regional plan. and still, they have free roaming in the regional area.)
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It is tough being in a backwater area!

It appears that anyone living in Lake County, Florida is the last to get the benefit of technology upgrades. I wonder when T-Mobile will get around to providing 3G in this area? 3G coverage ends around Ten Miles from here. The only other choice for 3G is AT&T and Verizon. Choice is great!

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Re: It is tough being in a backwater area!

bah. you think you got it bad, try moving to Alaska, or Montana. those poor saps will probably never see 3g
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Re: It is tough being in a backwater area!

said by bender See Profile :

bah. you think you got it bad, try moving to Alaska, or Montana. those poor saps will probably never see 3g
VZW has 3G in Montana. Sprint & Alaska Digitel, ACS and even AT&T all offer 3G in Alaska.

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Re: It is tough being in a backwater area!

I'm going on a limb here but I'm guessing the "backwater areas" will not see 3g regardless. especially in places like Montana and Alaska. think about it what incentive is there to put out 3g in areas where there is no one for miles and miles.

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Phone calls!

I'd be happy if T-Mobile would just provide reasonable coverage for ordinary phone calls. I'd be happy to switch to them if their network was decent.
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Re: Phone calls!

Amen to that. But part of that is the nimby factor.

Our town fought T-Mobile for 2 years because they wante to put up one lousy tower.

morbo
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Re: Phone calls!

i'm guessing that verizon and att don't have any towers in that area, huh?

Tomek
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Bars != Service

I often get full service on 3G network in NYC, but delay and speeds are just terrible. Sometimes my EDGE blackberry seems faster. Instead of 4G, fix 3G
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Re: Bars != Service

said by Tomek See Profile :

I often get full service on 3G network in NYC, but delay and speeds are just terrible. Sometimes my EDGE blackberry seems faster. Instead of 4G, fix 3G
Not happening, 3G's peak bandwidth was never designed to go higher than 2 or 3 mbps per cell tower. 3G was a gimick, not a network from day 1.

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Re: Bars != Service

"Our town fought T-Mobile for 2 years because they wante to put up one lousy tower."

Because they don't spend millions on kickbacks for the governments to be in their favor. AT&T is more generous than a middle aged man at a strip club, just not to their customers.
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feels like Los Angeles is always behind with everything

Amazing... Big Market Los Angeles is a NO SHOW on their list... isn't this city supposed to be a little bit more ahead of the curve at this point?

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Re: feels like Los Angeles is always behind with everything

it already got 3g in their initial launch last year. That list doesn't list network expansions which have happened in every one of the 25 cities launched in 2008 (which includes LA). Dallas, KC, NYC, etc. have all seen their 3g network sizes effectively double since last year.
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