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T-Mobile Preps First 21 Mbps Smartphone
Samsung Vibrant 4G will support latest HSPA+ upgrade
by Karl Bode Wednesday 12-Jan-2011 tags: business · wireless · T-Mobile US
T-Mobile's latest round of HSPA+ network upgrades deliver theoretical speeds up to 21 Mbps, and the first smartphone that will take advantage of that speed will be the Samsung Vibrant 4G. According to leaked documents posted to TmoNews, the device is part of the Galaxy family of phones, and will be a T-Mobile exclusive. Previous leaked documents have shown that T-Mobile is preparing to launch two different MiFi mobile hotspot devices that will support the faster speeds over the next few weeks. While T-Mobile's HSPA+ upgrades suggest 21 Mbps, customers in the real world will likely see half that -- though T-Mobile is working on pushing their HSPA+ network to 40 Mbps and beyond.

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Ted Sheckler
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FIRST! :D

now you can hit your cap in minutes instead of hours!

Justin024

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Re: FIRST! :D

Enough with the crap shit already. everytime a carrier upgrades speeds someone bitches about the caps. WE KNOW THE CAPS EXIST AND NOT EVERYBODY GOES OVER THEIR LIMITS UNLIKE MORE DATA HUNGRY HOGS THAT FREQUENT THIS WEBSITE.
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Re: FIRST! :D

It would be nice o ban two things from this forum (and others): "First" posts and whining about hitting your cap in a minute when in reality nobody will do unless explicitly attempting to do so.

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Re: FIRST! :D

The irony is that my sarcasm was completely missed. next time i will use the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags... relax guys
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Re: FIRST! :D

The irony is that many people aren't being sarcastic. Sorry I missed the subtleness.
Justin024

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Maybe I jumped the gun and my remarks aren't necessarily towards you, but I get sick and tired of reading "caps" everytime a provider increases speeds. It gets annoying fast sarcasim or not.

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Re: FIRST! :D

Sometimes you just got to mention caps. After seeing all that crap happening in canada right now, makes us wonder "are we going to be next"?

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Re: FIRST! :D

That T-mobile UK cap of 500 MB is pretty scary, even if its not here yet. Give it time.

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Re: FIRST! :D

yuck

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said by DataRiker:

That T-mobile UK cap of 500 MB is pretty scary, even if its not here yet. Give it time.

T Mobile backed down a bit and only applies to new or upgrading customers
»www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/t-mo···y-to-ne/

I doubt T Mobile would pull this here in the U.S with the competition they have.

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said by Justin024:

Enough with the crap shit already. everytime a carrier upgrades speeds someone bitches about the caps. WE KNOW THE CAPS EXIST AND NOT EVERYBODY GOES OVER THEIR LIMITS UNLIKE MORE DATA HUNGRY HOGS THAT FREQUENT THIS WEBSITE.

You probably didnt see the =D

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at least T-mobile doesn't have overages. So the "cap" is kind of a moot point. Even if you hit the 5gb cap you still can use the data, albeit at edge speeds.
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Re: FIRST! :D

Exactly. Let's not all be drama queens.

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I may be in the minority here but I would rather pay extra and maintain the speeds. A "4G" phone at Edge speeds is pointless.

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good to know you have money to burn

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Re: FIRST! :D

It's not that of course, it's the fact that is someone sends me a substantial file from the office etc I want it not to take 2 hours to download.

FBGuy
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Re: FIRST! :D

no real internet access? thats rough

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Re: FIRST! :D

There is of course, but we don't use Wifi at the office as we have a web filter in place.
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40 Mbps and beyond.......

Thought of Buzz Lighyear when I read that, lol...

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Stupid.

»www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-···-speeds/

And if you read the specs on this new phone, whoever buys it, is pretty much a moron. With the Tegra2 powered phones shown at CES its only a matter of time before T Mobile gets one. This 21mbps capable Vibrant its specs are fucking old school, and a sad attempt really. Its sad to think that clueless people will be buying this on contract when it lands because its "new" when Tegra2 phones will be hitting shortly after, and they won't be able to upgrade because their stuck in a contract lol.

Thank goodness I'm not in a contract and I actually do my homework before I buy.
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Re: Stupid.

It doesn't make them stupid because they don't care about all the specs that you care about. They just want a phone and they're not worried about the specs and latest processors, internet speeds, operating systems, etc...
Stop assuming that everyone else should think like you.

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Re: Stupid.

said by tdouglas22:

It doesn't make them stupid because they don't care about all the specs that you care about. They just want a phone and they're not worried about the specs and latest processors, internet speeds, operating systems, etc...
Stop assuming that everyone else should think like you.

lol so why would they go out and buy this phone when they see that its one of the fastest out on the network?

You sir are probably one of them.

It makes better financial sense to just wait till the Tegra2 powered phones to come out.

But hey..if you like wasting money go ahead, more power to ya!
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Re: Stupid.

said by ztmike:

said by tdouglas22:

It doesn't make them stupid because they don't care about all the specs that you care about. They just want a phone and they're not worried about the specs and latest processors, internet speeds, operating systems, etc...
Stop assuming that everyone else should think like you.

lol so why would they go out and buy this phone when they see that its one of the fastest out on the network?

You sir are probably one of them.

It makes better financial sense to just wait till the Tegra2 powered phones to come out.

But hey..if you like wasting money go ahead, more power to ya!

Another example of those who don't understand business and marketing.

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Re: Stupid.

said by tdouglas22:

said by ztmike:

said by tdouglas22:

It doesn't make them stupid because they don't care about all the specs that you care about. They just want a phone and they're not worried about the specs and latest processors, internet speeds, operating systems, etc...
Stop assuming that everyone else should think like you.

lol so why would they go out and buy this phone when they see that its one of the fastest out on the network?

You sir are probably one of them.

It makes better financial sense to just wait till the Tegra2 powered phones to come out.

But hey..if you like wasting money go ahead, more power to ya!

Another example of those who don't understand business and marketing.

Nice. You totally switched the subject, which has NOTHING to do with what I have been saying the entire time.

You are a lost cause.
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said by ztmike:

Nice. You totally switched the subject, which has NOTHING to do with what I have been saying the entire time.

You are a lost cause.

Not really, you didn't fully understand what was going on in the first place. You're complaining about the phone specs being behind other phones and saying that the ones who buy it will be stupid for doing so. I said that everyone is not going be as concerned with those specs. Phones are bought more as fashion accessories than for their insides. Yeah the tech talk looks good on paper but most people are buying them for ease of use and how cool they look. Business and marketing.
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Re: Stupid.

You're absolutely correct tdouglas22. Infact, those who want a good price on the latest and greatest are doomed to the choices of: 1) buying at full price and not having a 2 year contract; 2) buying a subsidized phone and hanging on for 2 years (up to 3 years in Canada); 3) bailing out before the contract is up and paying the ETF (my option of choice LOL). Nowadays, no matter how hot and advanced you think your device is.....just wait a minute and it will seem obsolete. Some folks have no problem sticking out the 2 (or 3 ) years and what is an absolutely "to die for" feature on a phone for one person may not make a difference to others. We are not clones after all! I look at my history: Kyocera 6035 for 4 years (OMG) to Treo 600 for 2 years to Treo 650 for (1 year) to HTC 8525 (paid full price) for 10 months to HTC Tilt (8925) (15 months (paid ETF) to Blackberry Storm (piece of crap) 10 months to Blackberry Storm 2 (paid full price to escape using the Storm 1 but eventually paid ETF on Storm 1) for 5 months to HTC EVO 4G (on launch day.....7 months and counting!). I want to see if I can resist the next "greatest" new device and its 15 minutes, days or weeks of fame. I still love the EVO and now that it's rooted, love it even more!

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Galaxy S vibrant

I have the vibrant with the nero 4.1 custom rom flashed on it. Wonder if I will be able to get 4G when and if its ever available here. I have seen the network type on HSDPA quite often and when I am in an open area have seen downstream speeds at about 5.83mbps and about 1.6 mbps up.

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said by CptGemini:

I have the vibrant with the nero 4.1 custom rom flashed on it. Wonder if I will be able to get 4G when and if its ever available here. I have seen the network type on HSDPA quite often and when I am in an open area have seen downstream speeds at about 5.83mbps and about 1.6 mbps up.

The Vibrant is hardware limited to 7.2mbps down, and I believe 2mbps up. No amount of software will be able to circumvent the hardware limitation of the chipset.
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Thats not true, I have had it do a lot more than 7.2mbps. I have had about steady 8 to 9 mbps using an ftp server app and downloading from the phone through my wifi. I have had another speedtest burst up to 18mbps and level off at 15 mbps. This is just the only one I have a screenshot saved on my site of.


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said by CptGemini:

Thats not true, I have had it do a lot more than 7.2mbps. I have had about steady 8 to 9 mbps using an ftp server app and downloading from the phone through my wifi. I have had another speedtest burst up to 18mbps and level off at 15 mbps. This is just the only one I have a screenshot saved on my site of.


Your WiFi chip != HSPA 3G chip.
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I was just trying to prove a point to the one above me that I was able to pull more than 7.2mbps.

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said by CptGemini:

I was just trying to prove a point to the one above me that I was able to pull more than 7.2mbps.

Not on 3G you're not.
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said by Gbcue:

said by CptGemini:

I was just trying to prove a point to the one above me that I was able to pull more than 7.2mbps.

Not on 3G you're not.

I know that lol. Look at the screenshot closer and you will see its on wifi. And the guy said it was hardware limited to 7.2mbps when I did some tests to prove that it was not.

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Re: Galaxy S vibrant

said by CptGemini:

said by Gbcue:

said by CptGemini:

I was just trying to prove a point to the one above me that I was able to pull more than 7.2mbps.

Not on 3G you're not.

I know that lol. Look at the screenshot closer and you will see its on wifi. And the guy said it was hardware limited to 7.2mbps when I did some tests to prove that it was not.

If you knew that it was limited to 7.2mbps, it was obvious he was talking about the HSPA 3G chipset and not WiFi.
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Re: Galaxy S vibrant

I hope that the "wifi" is due to the fact that he is using "wireless tether" program for rooted android PDAs or a mobile hotspot and tethering to his computer (ie. his computer is connected to his 3G Vibrant via wifi and the speed test is done on the computer). So it would be a measure of his HSPA 3G. If so, I love the ping times and upload speeds too. With my laptop connected to my EVO 4G (by wireless tether) I have never passed 11mbps down and like 1mbps up but pings are 100ms or slower.

Whoops I stand corrected (upon reading closely).

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