  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD |  Moot
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join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | Re: Moot said by pnh102:Once the AT&T/T-Mobile merger is rubber-stamped, this won't matter. It will be caps and overages galore for everyone.
Yes, looks like TMO is getting their users ready for the big changeover when AT&T takes them over. Start slow on the billing changes and make them closer and closer to AT&T's billing practices before the merger is consummated.
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| | | | Re: Moot To be clear this mean price increases for the vast majority of us.
Especially users like me who are out of contract, so they need not honor my super low bill. | |
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| said by pnh102:Once the AT&T/T-Mobile merger is rubber-stamped, this won't matter. It will be caps and overages galore for everyone.
T-mobile has already jumped in the festering soiled toilet bowl in anticipation of joining ATT. | |
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| | | Avoid the bullshit and make your phone a dumb one like mine.you cannot fight back against these assholes as they have payed off the government with their legal corruption tactics.
how to fight back ? for me it is never to let them charge me for a smart phone.i have my data and text disabled on the cheapest phone i could get for free.
not much of a solution but how do you fight these people anyways ? | |
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| Re: Moot said by gorehound:Avoid the bullshit and make your phone a dumb one like mine.you cannot fight back against these assholes as they have payed off the government with their legal corruption tactics.
how to fight back ? for me it is never to let them charge me for a smart phone.i have my data and text disabled on the cheapest phone i could get for free.
not much of a solution but how do you fight these people anyways ?
I'm in the same boat.
I will be buying a smart phone off of ebay with a bad esn, just for wifi calling and internet.
Only 50 bucks for a nice android.
I have to carry 2 phones, but its not a problem for me. | |
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And T-Mobile needs to learn differentiate the terms competitive, and anti-competitive.  | |
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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | Competition my foot... "in order to be bought by AT&T" sounds more like it... | |
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | "to remain competitive" my ass.... | |
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| | I would care..... But I am not a T-Mobile or AT&T customer so I really don't care.
If you can get two phones for $49/mo with "Unlimited" text,talk, and data* why in the world would you be on a 200Mb plan to begin with?
Nothing like a good Carrier bashing story to start the day off. | |
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| | | Re: I would care..... said by battleop:But I am not a T-Mobile or AT&T customer so I really don't care.
If you can get two phones for $49/mo with "Unlimited" text,talk, and data* why in the world would you be on a 200Mb plan to begin with?
Nothing like a good Carrier bashing story to start the day off.
$49 EACH. | |
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| | | | Re: I would care..... What I read didn't make it to what I typed. | |
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2 edits | what happens when the $30/$35 overage cap is hit? so what will happen when the $30/$35 overage cap is hit. t-mobile is stating they are doing this so users do not experience slower speeds. so do users get unlimited fast internet after paying the $30/$35 overage? or does it get shut off? or throttled?
if it is unlimited after the overage cap this may actually be the true unlimited plan some people need/want. if its throttling than the plan that makes most sense for the heaviest users just got much more expensive. the way i see it for the heaviest users the cheapest plan made the most sense since its only a short tease of fast internet at the beginning of the billing cycle and slow for the rest of the month, might as well get the tease over with and save money buy getting the cheapest plan.
at least for myself i like consistancy. so uf i am going to be throttled might as well be throttled for the whole or most of the month. | |
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| | | Re: what happens when the $30/$35 overage cap is hit? the more i think about, this might be the whole reason for t-mobile change. it would not surprise me if a lot of people never saw this as a 200MB plan at all, but rather as a slow unlimited plan. t-mobile certainly would not like if its heaviest users were also the ones paying the least. | |
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| | | | Re: what happens when the $30/$35 overage cap is hit? You realize their throttle was only slightly better than 56K.
Unlimited at that rate is hardly an issue. | |
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| | Just as bad as the others I cancelled with them about a week after the ATT announcement. I am so glad it seems like they became just as bad as ATT and Verizon with their policies and fees. | |
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Huh? I was on the 200MB plan for a few months. I worked out very nicely at $10/month. But then I was offered unlimited for $20 and they lowered my cell plan cost by $10.
I don't recall the specifics but I fail to see the problem with charging for overages when you go over on a 200Mb plan. A 200Mb is a different animal then "unlimited". What happened before this change... the service just stopped? There are many apps that will monitor your usage, warn you and even turn off the service at a certain limit.
I fail to see any issue with charging overage on a 200Mb plan. It should have been this way all along. | |
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| | | Re: Huh? The service was severely throttled. Some users getting sub 50Kbit/s speeds. | |
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| | | | Re: Huh? Is it so hard to get on a tier that matches your usage? If no tiers match, take your wallet somewhere else! | |
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Re: Huh? said by NuShrike:Is it so hard to get on a tier that matches your usage? If no tiers match, take your wallet somewhere else!
Where? You do realize that many here would LOVE to take their wallet elsewhere but can't due to ZERO competition in their area? | |
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| | | said by tcope:I was on the 200MB plan for a few months. I worked out very nicely at $10/month. But then I was offered unlimited for $20 and they lowered my cell plan cost by $10.
I don't recall the specifics but I fail to see the problem with charging for overages when you go over on a 200Mb plan. A 200Mb is a different animal then "unlimited". What happened before this change... the service just stopped? There are many apps that will monitor your usage, warn you and even turn off the service at a certain limit.
I fail to see any issue with charging overage on a 200Mb plan. It should have been this way all along.
Holy cow American consumers have got to be the most pathetic corporate apologists in entire world. Why should it have been this way all along? When they've throttled you it doesn't cost them anything to accommodate your usage of their tower. They have 42 mbps of bandwidth available on each tower. You think their pathetically low 56k throttle is going to put a burden on those towers? | |
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| | tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Re: Huh? I might not have been clear... why would they have ever throttled a 200Mb plan (i.e. I don't _think_ they did). If they allowed the user to download more then 200Mb and just throttled them then there is no 200Mb limit.
If I recall correctly, going above the 200Mb only result in additional charges... for the same service. | |
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| | | | | Re: Huh? As far as I know, T-Mobile has long been known as the carrier that throttles you once you reach your limit, rather than charging overages like the other major carriers. The article is claiming that they're switching that behavior on their 200 MB plan.
said by tcope:If they allowed the user to download more then 200Mb and just throttled them then there is no 200Mb limit. You're arguing about the definition of "limit" here. There's still a severe change in service at the 200 MB mark, so I'd still call it a "limit" even if you don't get cut off entirely at that point or charged extra. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Huh? there are plenty of people out there that load up smartphones apps like social network, weather, news alll making constant connection to the network and using substantial data. some of these people do not do any thing on there phone that requires higher speeds than 56k, for example no stream music or video.
i bet a lot of these people are going well over 200mb, some by multiples.
t-mobile wants more money from these people, not for them to have a slow but cheap options that meets their requirements.
any news on whether this change also affects prepaid? or will $50 unlimited everything continue? | |
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| Re: Huh? I have a smart phone with TMO. And it downloads the news, weather, facebook and email ALL the time- as well as backs itself up over the air- several times a day- ive NEVER used over 200mb a month; and even used it as a wireless router and all. Been with them since Jan 2011 and NEVER hit the cap even with using IHeartRadio | |
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join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | said by quantitious :You're arguing about the definition of "limit" here. There's still a severe change in service at the 200 MB mark, so I'd still call it a "limit" even if you don't get cut off entirely at that point or charged extra. What I'm saying is that I'm not so sure that they ever cut speed after 200Mb before.
Okay, what we do know... TM is not going to charge when you go over 200Mb on a 200Mb limit plan. If this will be happening then it does not happen now. So my question is... what happens now? They just throttle your speed after 200Mb? Huh? How could anyone complain about that? You pay for 200Mb but you actually get much more then you are paying for... just slower.
If they are limiting people to 200Mb on a 200Mb plan but charging them when they go over what is the big deal? Isn't that how it should have always worked? | |
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kudos:3 | ""n order to remain competitive" ?? quote:
T-Mobile had been marketing their no overage penalty approach as competitive alternative, but now says they need to impose these fees "in order to remain competitive."
To have a competitive advantage, that would mean to have a lower cost or better product.
But in this case, "in order to remain competitive" means to maintain the short-term investors' competitive advantage of their T-Mobile investment. | |
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Okay... Okay I did some checking on this so that I understood how the plan works:
So currently the "200Mb plan" is not listed to 200Mb, you only get throttled speeds after 200Mb. This cost $10/month
The new plan will allow you 200Mb but then charge for overage (I have not seen any indication that the speed will also be throttles and I doubt it will).
If I bought 200Mb/month I'd expect to only get 200Mb/month. Call me silly. But TM appears to have been away data for free after 200Mb. Now they are going to actually give customers 200Mb when they are only paying for 200Mb. Bastards!
I had the 200Mb plan for several months as it allowed me to have all the data _I_ needed for $10/month. Many people only need limited data and this is a great way for them to get it for next to nothing. As I mentioned before, there are several programs (I liked WatchDog) that will turn off data off after a set amount. | |
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| | | Re: Okay... $10/month for 200 MB is not for "next to nothing". Compared to other countries in this day it is a lot of $ for "next to nothing" as far as value.
Hope that puts it into perspective for you. | |
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join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Re: Okay... said by WernerSchutz:$10/month for 200 MB is not for "next to nothing". Compared to other countries in this day it is a lot of $ for "next to nothing" as far as value.
Hope that puts it into perspective for you.
You really think comparing the US to other contries when it comes to broadband is an equal comparison? Please come back to reality.
How many other national carriers in the US offer 200Mb for $10? How many offer unlimited data, with everything over 200Mb being throttled for $10? | |
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| | | | | Re: Okay... said by tcope:said by WernerSchutz:$10/month for 200 MB is not for "next to nothing". Compared to other countries in this day it is a lot of $ for "next to nothing" as far as value.
Hope that puts it into perspective for you.
You really think comparing the US to other contries when it comes to broadband is an equal comparison? Please come back to reality. Why is comparing the terrible broadband in US to other countries not related to reality ? | |
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join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Re: Okay... Because that is not what is being discussed. Please see the article that we are commenting on.
The TM $10/month plan is offered in the US... not "other countries". Also, we are not talking about "terrible broadband". At this point you are really just trolling. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Okay... For $10 you can get a much better value in other European and Asian countries and YES, it is TERRIBLE broadband here. Bringing it to the forefront upsets the providers and their paid shills. | |
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| better off on prepaid I left TMO contract service yrs ago glad i did since all the flip flopping around i purchased my last phone out right( dual core android) and dropped from my overly expensive plan (out of contract months ago) to the unlimited prepaid for $50 and I still manage to rack up almost a GB a month after the 100 mb throttle and thats unlimited. I figure if it was truly unlimited 4g id be still on my $80 plan but since its not $50 is all they will get out of me! and I purchase my $50 refills on ebay for $43 total, cant beet that. I do miss pandora streaming to my phone though, ah well cant win them all. | |
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 ScottMoOnce in a LifetimePremium,MVM
join:2000-12-15
Stony Brook, NY | Not really news Its been this way for a while now, I'm not sure why this is "news".
I have the $10 200MB plan. I was traveling in April and went way over the 200 limit. I wasn't throttled, but was charged 10 cents per MB. That's what they told me would happen - once the charge reaches $30, they change it to the 2Gb plan and treat it just like that plan. So I don't get throttled until I actually hit 2GB. Since I don't normally use 200 MB of data, I thought it was reasonable vs. getting a $30 data plan every month. So far this year, I've only hit the cap that one month. | |
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