T-Mobile Skips HSPA+ 84, Heads for LTE As Long As They're Refarming 1900MHz PCS Spectrum Tuesday Feb 28 2012 08:24 EDT T-Mobile owner Deutsche Telekom last week confirmed that they'll be keeping T-Mobile in the U.S. market, using the $4 billion in cash, spectrum and roaming deals from AT&T to build out an LTE network. Speaking at the Mobile Congress in Barcelona this week, T-Mobile says the LTE build will begin once they've finished their HSPA+ 42 (theoretically capable of 42 Mbps) upgrades, and that they won't be proceeding to HSPA+ 84 as they had originally suggested. Both HSPA+ 42 and LTE would require time, money and the refarming of spectrum, and while HSPA+ may still have plenty of legroom for the average user -- it simply makes sense to get the LTE migration rolling sooner rather than later. |
IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC |
Like a thorn in AT&T's side....Ha! Love it... Go T-Mobile!
When T-Mobile fully supports the iPhone, there will be an exodus of customers from AT&T.... | |
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tiger72
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2012-Feb-28 8:48 am
Re: Like a thorn in AT&T's side....Yep, good move. I wish T-Mobile had begun refarming their 1900 spectrum 2 years ago, but now is better than never! | |
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no, as with the recent articles about how the carriers are losing money carrying the Iphone..
it's better for T-Mobile, to just be able to have the Iphone work on their systems (with users bringing over their iphones), than for them to sell the iphone itself at a loss to their business bottom line. | |
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Re: Like a thorn in AT&T's side....I believe thats what he was going for, by the time TMO deploys there LTE network ( which is after there hspa+42 roll out ends) were looking at 2-3 years at least. Giving more than enough time for All the larger carriers to have defunct customers with LTE capable iphones floating around, or a supply of them readily available from over seas markets. The question is will they be TMO compliant. Id personally like TMO to tell Apple no thanks were not dropping or cash on your subsidies, but your more than welcome to sell your phone to our customers and we will support it. IF apple really wants the business from TMO customers just build the freaking iphone to support TMOs network in the future and sell it for retail in Apple stores, The masses will still purchase it regardless. | |
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said by Gami00:no, as with the recent articles about how the carriers are losing money carrying the Iphone..
it's better for T-Mobile, to just be able to have the Iphone work on their systems (with users bringing over their iphones), than for them to sell the iphone itself at a loss to their business bottom line. Bingo. Sprint is in the news now for how much they spent to get the iPhone » www.engadget.com/2012/02 ··· -iphone/Personally, I think what you said is the best way for T-Mobile, and not to spend themselves into oblivion. | |
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I hear you IP-man, now if we could just get TMO to loosen up of the throttle as well, then were cooking with gas!
Im however interested to see what will the next round of dual mode phones support for TMO,... currently its GSM/HSPA. will it be GSM/LTE, HSPA/LTE, or trimode GSM/HSPA/LTE. Im however leaning towards the notion GSM is going to be around for a while longer as its still a worldwide standard. | |
| | tcope Premium Member join:2003-05-07 Sandy, UT |
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It's certainly possible but I don't see it happening... at least not right now. TM is known for keeping their costs down. They go with inexpensive phones and the cost from Apple is just too high. | |
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fuziwuziNot born yesterday Premium Member join:2005-07-01 Palm Springs, CA
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fuziwuzi
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2012-Feb-28 10:19 am
supportPerhaps T-Mobile was the smartest of them all, sitting back and waiting. They will shift around their services to make current iPhone users happier and then be in a position to attract AT&T and European/Asian LTE customers, as well. | |
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delusion ftl
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2012-Feb-28 10:22 am
Karl missed a sizeable part of their planTmobile looks to be skipping volte and will implement voice on the LTE network as IMS which is their wifi-calling technology. IMS will do handoffs between LTE and wifi already.
Tmobile already doesnt count wifi calling against a users minutes. When "wifi calling" even over LTE is the way that all calls are handled then it would make sense that it would just count against the users data usage and there wouldn't be any "minutes" involved anymore. Tmobile already only sells unlimited texts if you have texts at all. So I think it's safe to assume they are slowly moving to a data only service. | |
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Vroom!Glade they keep their prices cheap and affordable. | |
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Um... AWS spectrum?Didn't ATT gave them some AWS spectrum? I'm just afraid that instead of aggressive re-purposing of 1900 network they'll go into la-la land of AWS LTE to have their own special 4G phones. And not support ATT/World phones with fast data speed. | |
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subreal
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2012-Feb-28 3:22 pm
Is there such thing as a global LTE frequency?Are there such a thing as global LTE frequency like we have with GSM? From what I understand, LTE can be on any frequency... so Every carrier in the world could be operating on different frequencies... what a headache for manufactures and people that travel. | |
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Smokey
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2012-Feb-28 4:48 pm
Re: Is there such thing as a global LTE frequency?I believe it is banded, as with others. They need to refarm the 1900 band because even with their AWS holdings and the ones they got from ATT, they will be short on coverage. | |
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700 mhz LTE is supposed to be the global standard. But its still in progress. I think the quad should be standard worldwide. 800, 900, 1800, 1900 should be available worldwide. | |
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Re: Is there such thing as a global LTE frequency?In the us only AT&T and Verizon are using 700Mhz, Sprint and T-mobile won't be deploying on 700Mhz and Europe will be mostly using 800Mhz. Due to spectrum crunching etc the LTE world is looking to be initially much more divided than 3G | |
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at this time different LTE network phones appear to be incompatible, because of the different frequencies it runs on, even AT&T and Verizon who are both deploying on 700Mhz right now are not compatible, it may be very well due to the immaturity of LTE chipsets and as LTE chips mature their may be phones that are usable on AT&T and Verizon, AT&T plans to deploy LTE on 1900Mhz as well, so it's possible T-mobile and AT&T phones could be compatible if T-mobile doesn't also use it's AWS spectrum for LTE.
But in any case it doesn't look like LTE phones will work on multiple networks in the short term. | |
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