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T-Mobile Unveils HSPA+ MyTouch, 16 More HSPA+ Markets
Denver, Oakland, San Francisco, Phoenix now up and running
by Karl Bode Monday 04-Oct-2010 tags: coverage · business · wireless · hardware · bandwidth · T-Mobile US
T-Mobile today announced that they continue to deploy speedy HSPA+ upgrades (providing usually around 10 Mbps downstream) to additional markets. According to a T-Mobile announcement, T-Mobile has now launched these new speeds in 16 additional markets (including Oakland, San Francisco, Phoenix and Denver), bringing their upgraded HSPA+ total to 65 major metro areas. The company also announced their second HSPA+ phone -- an upgraded version of the Android-powered HTC MyTouch, which features a new video chat feauture that works over either 3G or Wi-Fi (phone specs are now up at the T-Mobile website).

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Nice!

With only a couple months left in the year, looks like T-Mobile is committed to brining HSPA+ to at least 100 metro areas!

AT&T, not so much. No news on their HSPA+ plans.
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Re: Nice!

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With only a couple months left in the year, looks like T-Mobile is committed to brining HSPA+ to at least 100 metro areas!

AT&T, not so much. No news on their HSPA+ plans.
AT&T had plans? lol

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Re: Nice!

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said by Gbcue:

With only a couple months left in the year, looks like T-Mobile is committed to brining HSPA+ to at least 100 metro areas!

AT&T, not so much. No news on their HSPA+ plans.
AT&T had plans? lol
AT&T is bringing HSPA+ to 250 million pop's by the years end.
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How about getting 3G service in the area first.

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How about getting 3G service in the area first.
Holes in coverage are evident in every carrier. You're point?
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Re: Nice!

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said by Alcohol:

How about getting 3G service in the area first.
Holes in coverage are evident in every carrier. You're point?
My point is pretty clear:

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How about getting 3G service in the area first.
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Re: Nice!

and Gbcue had a point too. not everyone is going to see this upgrade and everyone has holes. deal with it.

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said by hottboiinnc:

and Gbcue had a point too. not everyone is going to see this upgrade and everyone has holes. deal with it.
Wow, I didn't know we couldn't speak our minds on here, next time I'll check with you

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said by hottboiinnc:

and Gbcue had a point too. not everyone is going to see this upgrade and everyone has holes. deal with it.
Yeah, i'll deal with it by not dealing with t-mobile until they can provide decent coverage.
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HAHAHAHA. Not only are you surrounded by 3g, you're surrounded by HSPA+.

Where is that? New Jersey?

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Yea. West Jersey.
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Is that GPRS or EDGE? Where I go to school has HSPA+ but where I call home is GPRS only. This is why I have an Epic 4G instead of a G2.

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Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

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Re: Nice!

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Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

As it's been said before, T-Mobile stays in the major metro areas as that's where the most money can be made. I'm sure it'll be available "eventually".
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said by RR Conductor:

Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

As it's been said before, T-Mobile stays in the major metro areas as that's where the most money can be made. I'm sure it'll be available "eventually".
Yeah, but GPRS? In 2010? That's sad, sorry. Also, they should do like other carriers do and put up 3G when they put up new sites, why put up GPRS/EDGE and then have to come back later and spend the money to put up 3G? It seems like a waste to me. As for them staying in the major metro areas, we are not a metro area by any means, and they built out out up here (and are still in the process of putting up sites in Mendocino and Lake Counties).
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Re: Nice!

GPRS is fine on new sites. Frankly, I've seen ATT's EDGE in rural areas and it aint no better than T-Mobile's GPRS (ie 700ms pings and 50kbps transfers). But when they deploy new coverage, they should definitely be deploying 3g on the same towers. It's a shame that they don't.
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Re: Nice!

said by tiger72:

GPRS is fine on new sites. Frankly, I've seen ATT's EDGE in rural areas and it aint no better than T-Mobile's GPRS (ie 700ms pings and 50kbps transfers). But when they deploy new coverage, they should definitely be deploying 3g on the same towers. It's a shame that they don't.
There is still no excuse for a supposedly "reputable" carrier to be deploying an early 2000's way EOL technology in 2010. There is no excuse for an EDGE only tower to be deploy here in that aspect. I thought the point of 3G was to phase out 2G and move to 3G and then to 4G.

Cingular started deploying "3G" EDGE in 03", and yes, even though EDGE is unusable sometimes it is technically 3G. But T-Mobile can't even say their entire networks EDGE because most of it isn't.

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said by tiger72:

GPRS is fine on new sites. Frankly, I've seen ATT's EDGE in rural areas and it aint no better than T-Mobile's GPRS (ie 700ms pings and 50kbps transfers). But when they deploy new coverage, they should definitely be deploying 3g on the same towers. It's a shame that they don't.
There is still no excuse for a supposedly "reputable" carrier to be deploying an early 2000's way EOL technology in 2010. There is no excuse for an EDGE only tower to be deploy here in that aspect. I thought the point of 3G was to phase out 2G and move to 3G and then to 4G.

Cingular started deploying "3G" EDGE in 03", and yes, even though EDGE is unusable sometimes it is technically 3G. But T-Mobile can't even say their entire networks EDGE because most of it isn't.

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As I've said before. EDGE is pointless if the actual performance is no better than GPRS. And in many rural areas, ATT's "EDGE" is nothing to get excited about.

700ms pings and 45kbps transfers isn't any better than GPRS. That little "E" means jack, so I prefer not to get caught up in superficial branding. Obviously you do.
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Willits / Ukiah / Gerberville just doesn't hit the list for T-Mobile (or AT&T, Sprint or Metro PCS). Its only VZW/USCC.

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said by RR Conductor:

Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

As it's been said before, T-Mobile stays in the major metro areas as that's where the most money can be made. I'm sure it'll be available "eventually".
No wonder they're struggling so much as a company.
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Re: Nice!

Compare them to AT&T-- a company with a history of struggling to provide usable 3g in NYC and San Francisco despite users having full bars.

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said by morbo:

Compare them to AT&T-- a company with a history of struggling to provide usable 3g in NYC and San Francisco despite users having full bars.
T-mobile is a better company, but att still has over 3 times as many customers.

I would switch to tmboile in a heartbeat if they had 3g service in my area. I prefer their customer service, cell phone plans, smart phones and prices. But coverage is a deal breaker.
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said by morbo:

Compare them to AT&T-- a company with a history of struggling to provide usable 3g in NYC and San Francisco despite users having full bars.
But compare them in other area's like rural Alabama or actually Alabama in general, and T-Mobile doesn't even compare in terms of coverage or quality.
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said by Gbcue:

said by RR Conductor:

Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

As it's been said before, T-Mobile stays in the major metro areas as that's where the most money can be made. I'm sure it'll be available "eventually".
Birmingham is a "Metro" area, why don't we at least have EDGE to fall back to when their 3G disappears indoor's?
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said by RR Conductor:

Nice, but they still have about half the country on GPRS, up here in Mendocino County they started rolling out service for the first time in the Summer of 2009, and instead of putting up 3G when they put up new sites/colocations, they made them GPRS and EDGE, ugghh. HSPA+ is nice, but what about the rest of us? A lot of NorCal is GPRS only in fact, like most of the Northern Sacramento Valley, that's just sad in 2010, especially when you consider Verizon and U.S. Cellular are 100% 3G up here, and AT&T has 3G in Ukiah, Lakeport, Clearlake, etc. T-Mobile's 3G stops at Healdsburg, and at the rate they're going it's going to stay that way for a while

Your area is not special in that aspect, it's the majority of the time you leave any major interstate with T-Mobile you fall back to GPRS, heck even in downtown Birmingham, 3G fall's back to GPRS
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said by Gbcue:

With only a couple months left in the year, looks like T-Mobile is committed to brining HSPA+ to at least 100 metro areas!

AT&T, not so much. No news on their HSPA+ plans.
Like VZW they wait till the last minute like they did with HSPA 7.2. And T-Mobile has yet to bring a true HSPA+ phone out yet. None of these are HSPA+ at all, their simply HSPA 14.4, they have to be 21 to be HSPA+...

And T-Mobile really need's to be committed to provide a consistent coverage area with at least nationwide EDGE.
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said by iLive4Fusion:

And T-Mobile really need's to be committed to provide a consistent coverage area with at least nationwide EDGE.
why? Almost all the other cell companies do the same thing.
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Is my HTC HSPA+?
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Specs say 7.2mb down/2mb up, so probably no. Probably should see avg down of about 5000k or so. Faster than DSL I would say.
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I was able to pull 250KB/sec in my house.

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250KBps*8 = 2mbps. Well within standard HSPA.

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Is my HTC HSPA+?
no.

2 seconds of googling: »www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/spec···ion.html
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T-Mobile can go drown in the Lake Michigan

yeah, where is HSPA+ in Chicago? It was the city that first launched legacy AMPS 1G in this country. The city with largest WiMax (Sprint-Nextel) before they launch it in NYC.

The city that designed skyscrapers for the world and got alcohol underground during prohibition area. Such a famous city should not be overlooked on the first phase of launch.

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Looks like Tucson also covered with "Pheonix" coverage

They did this with the 3G deployment too. Assuming VERY fast web means HSPA+
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Is T-Mobile getting the HTC Desire HD?

I'm wondering if the HTC Desire HD is coming to T-Mobile. I like the G2 and this new MyTouch looks cool too. But I would prefer one the phones with larger screens similar to the Evo or Droid X.

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said by tdouglas22:

I'm wondering if the HTC Desire HD is coming to T-Mobile. I like the G2 and this new MyTouch looks cool too. But I would prefer one the phones with larger screens similar to the Evo or Droid X.
It should be.
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Tallahassee, FL

Is Tallahassee, FL considered a metro city?

It'd be nice to have HSPA+ in Tallahassee, as for right now, I have T-Mobile WebConnect Overage Free Plan.
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Loving my HSPA+

Love my HSPA+ so called 4G on T-Mobile, upload is fantastic. Taken in Birmingham, AL where HSPA+ is live.

Though Ping in the second is very good on my WebConnect Rocket 2.0





vs. my "3G" speed's on AT&T.


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