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T-Mobile Unveils New, Cheaper 'Unlimited' Plans
$50 & $80 Talk Text & Web, Both With 2GB Cap and Throttling
Despite their looming acquisition by AT&T, T-Mobile has been keeping busy, continuing to deploy planned HSPA+ upgrades and today introducing two new unlimited service tiers. The company's new "Even More" and "Even More Plus" plans offer subscribers unlimited nationwide voice calling, unlimited messaging and unlimited data. Even More is available for $80 a month to contract customers, while Even More Plus is available for $60 to prepaid customers. "Consumers exceeding 2GB of usage in a billing month will still have access to unlimited data at reduced speeds until their new billing cycle starts," notes T-Mobile's announcement -- which insists that "on average," most T-Mobile users use 1GB a month. According to T-Mobile, the new plans are available for "a limited time."
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SLD
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Still too expensive

Dear T-Mobile: go visit virginwirelessusa.com.
Come back after you do your reading.

Thanks,
-The USA

swintec
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Re: Still too expensive

Dear SLD See Profile, I suggest you also read up on Virgin Mobile and look at there coverage, which absolutely blows outside of metro areas. The only coverage that sucks more than T-Mobiles native coverage is Virgins. At least with T-Mobile you will be able to roam as needed. Virgin..not so much. There is a reason why Virgin is so inexpensive.

dsfhui879
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Re: Still too expensive

Hmm, for data,

doesn't 4g (as of 04/11) sucks more that any 3g? Its great, modern its faster and has lower latency, but for now you cannot get it outside metro areas, especially with Clearwire (with Sprint stake).

SLD
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So far, no problems with the Sprint network that Virgin rides on.

swintec
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Re: Still too expensive

said by SLD:

So far, no problems with the Sprint network that Virgin rides on.

As there shouldnt be....you live in SF, CA. If I lived in a large or small city and didnt drive around to a lot of places Virgin may make sense to have. There is a reason I set my Sprint phone to Roam only when I am headed out on the road.

SN
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TMO CANNOT roam!!!! That's why they want to acquire roaming rights from ATT in their "break-up" agreement with them WHEN the deal falls through...PLZ do your research before you start spitting nonsense

swintec
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Re: Still too expensive

said by SN :

TMO CANNOT roam!!!! That's why they want to acquire roaming rights from ATT in their "break-up" agreement with them WHEN the deal falls through...PLZ do your research before you start spitting nonsense

T mobile can and does roam. They roam on unicels old network which is now v erizons gsm roam only system. The also roam on at&ts network at times as well. My gf keeps her phone on roam only all of the time and it says unicel right on the screen.

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I roam all the time with t-mobile. I even roam on At&t in western Illinois! The very few times i had no t-mobile or roaming service available to use, at&t was not there either. Gaining at&t won't help me the slightest where i go. (Something like half of their nationwide coverage is roaming. Granted its rural areas.)
dave sz
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Doesn't VIRGIN use SPRINT's network?
Yeah, no thanks. All my friends who had sprint stopped coming to my house cause they couldn't get signal. Wonder if I could sue sprint for ruining numerous friendships for me?
And what does VIRGIN charge for unlimited talk+text+data? $60.

swintec
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Re: Still too expensive

said by dave sz:

Doesn't VIRGIN use SPRINT's network?
Yeah, no thanks. All my friends who had sprint stopped coming to my house cause they couldn't get signal. Wonder if I could sue sprint for ruining numerous friendships for me?
And what does VIRGIN charge for unlimited talk+text+data? $60.

Virgin does use sprints native network, but can not roam. At least Sprint customers can roam on Verizon or US cellular networks among others. If your friends ditched you because they couldnt get cell service I suspect there had to be something else going on there.

WHT
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said by dave sz:

Wonder if I could sue sprint for ruining numerous friendships for me?

But just think how many VIRGINS were saved!
john262
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LOL. So if their cell phones won't work at your house they won't come there anymore? What in the world are we coming to? I can remember when people did just fine without any cell phones at all.

Thaler
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said by dave sz:

Yeah, no thanks. All my friends who had sprint stopped coming to my house cause they couldn't get signal. Wonder if I could sue sprint for ruining numerous friendships for me?

Or just get better friends.

My neighborhood is death for anything besides Sprint. Verizon gets spotty coverage, but AT&T & Tmobile are a total no-show. Kinda glad I have friends that don't shrivel up and die when their cell coverage goes south.

Selenia
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said by dave sz:

Doesn't VIRGIN use SPRINT's network?
Yeah, no thanks. All my friends who had sprint stopped coming to my house cause they couldn't get signal. Wonder if I could sue sprint for ruining numerous friendships for me?
And what does VIRGIN charge for unlimited talk+text+data? $60.

Whst? For getting idiots out of your house? They might argue you should be paying them. Yes, somebody who won't visit a friend due to a simple lack of cell coverage is an idiot. Also, not a true friend. Acquaintances are a dime a dozen and mostly idiots. Real friends are rare, but precious.

On a side note, only Verizon really works inside my house. AT&T has a little signal in some spots-enough to ring and connect, but not enough to hear. I have AT&T-maybe I shouldn't go home. The 2 mentioned are the only 2 with any coverage(Sprint and T-Mo have absolutely 0) Common sense kicked in and I added one of my spare free sip trunks to my Google Voice. As a result, calls are pristine at home and whenever I have wifi, regardless of cell signal. I can even use my Verizon Mifi in those Verizon-only spots.
hottboiinnc4
ME
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Cleveland, OH

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Re: Still too expensive

TMO has coverage in your home as long as you have a wireless router and the phone has Wireless UMTS/UMA calling enabled on it. Works great!

Selenia
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Re: Still too expensive

said by hottboiinnc4:

TMO has coverage in your home as long as you have a wireless router and the phone has Wireless UMTS/UMA calling enabled on it. Works great!

Provided you have a UMA capable phone, which seems to be few. My setup works on almost any smartphone and for any carrier. It has allowed me to cut back my plan quite a bit, as I use my smartphone exclusively. Now, the 450 minute plan is more than enough. I do my international both mobile and sip via Google Voice.
hottboiinnc4
ME
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Re: Still too expensive

their UMA phones actually are like i said about 50-90%. They're moving ALL of their phones to that thus- why they're pushing smart phones and Androiod. UMA works GREAT. But your setup will NOT work wile your out of your home area. My UMA calling will. It works in anywhere i have an open Internet Connection or know the password to the router where I'm at. I can even connect to the Internet at Nordstroms Department Stores, hotels, and much more. Something you can't do on yours.

Selenia
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Re: Still too expensive

said by hottboiinnc4:

their UMA phones actually are like i said about 50-90%. They're moving ALL of their phones to that thus- why they're pushing smart phones and Androiod. UMA works GREAT. But your setup will NOT work wile your out of your home area. My UMA calling will. It works in anywhere i have an open Internet Connection or know the password to the router where I'm at. I can even connect to the Internet at Nordstroms Department Stores, hotels, and much more. Something you can't do on yours.

Actually, you're wrong. Using SIP, I can even connect internationally, as only the wifi is involved in making the call. As I said, anywhere there is wifi.

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compuguybna
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Been there, done that.

Virgin Mobile is at the bottom of the tower priority when it comes of voice calls and data.

The $25 300 minute calling plan/unlimited plan wont last long, as it didn't with their mobile broadband device.

Virgin Mobile has a history of launching programs their network can't support (Optimus V, MC760 "unlimited" internet).

They like to rake up revenue on sales of devices, and new users, only to change their terms of service in about 3-4 months.

I'll laughing my a** off at the day it fails, saying Told Ya So.
said by SLD:

Dear T-Mobile: go visit virginwirelessusa.com.
Come back after you do your reading.

Thanks,
-The USA


SLD
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Re: Still too expensive

Sure, laugh your ass off at an opportunity to save a bunch of money. I applaud carriers that at least attempt to buck the current pricing structure. You probably are best voting with your dollars for the higher pricing - you'll get what you vote for.
I don't think anyone out there can make the case that $80/mo for wireless calls is actually reasonable. You may have been conditioned to believe so by living within an artificially inflated market, but that doesn't make it right.

Thaler
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said by compuguybna:

Virgin Mobile has a history of launching programs their network can't support (Optimus V, MC760 "unlimited" internet).

Considering that "their" network is Sprint, and they run the same (if not more demanding devices), I don't see how this logic pans out.
Mr Matt
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Millenicom offers attractive plans with no contract required

Check out Millenicom a DMVNO that offers several attractive plans with no contract required.
hottboiinnc4
ME
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Cleveland, OH

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Re: Millenicom offers attractive plans with no contract required

thats a data card NOT voice.

And days will be counting when Millenicom's MVNO contracts will be killed.

Dominokat
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All this is Mute

All this from T-Mobel is mute.
Enjoy it now, because 1 year from now you will be ATT and on their terms. We all now what that is.... Bend over and take it like a man.
hottboiinnc4
ME
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Re: All this is Mute

not true. All you are doing with that spreading FUD! If you sign up under a contract with TMO and ATT takes over ATT MUST legally give you what your contract states unless YOU upgrade your services (renew contracts).

T just can't change your terms; They buy your contract and everything else.

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Re: All this is Mute

I would bet that At&T won't have to continue serving 3g over the 3g frequencies that t-mobile phones use though.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: All this is Mute

yes they do. They have to leave all services and prices in place if their network does NOT work with current TMO phones that are on the market in contract. If someone's phone does NOT work on the ATT network then TMO's network must be kept in place. T could not just shut the network down or start moving things around.

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Re: All this is Mute

Way to completelly miss the point. My t-mobile phone works just fine on at&ts network (my Touch Pro 2 is unlocked) - but it doesn't get 3g service on it because they use different frequencies.

tiger72
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Re: All this is Mute

I don't expect much from the FCC on this merger, but I don't doubt that one of the merger stipulations would be to support AWS 3g for existing customers for 2 years from the date of the merger.

cdru
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said by asdfghjklzx5:

Way to completelly miss the point. My t-mobile phone works just fine on at&ts network (my Touch Pro 2 is unlocked) - but it doesn't get 3g service on it because they use different frequencies.

It will take a year for regulatory approval. Presuming they get approval, I would expect AT&T to set a sunset date 2+ years out to allow contracts to expire before switching off T-Mobile's frequencies, allowing customers to migrate over to AT&T plans and phones.

The only time that the customer is going to have a negative impact is when the frequencies get turned off and they have a 2+ year old phone. But sometimes there is a price for "progress".
hottboiinnc4
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I didn't miss the point. You remade my point. They just can't shut down the 3G network if it affects current contracts. You must not know how mergers with contracts work do you?

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said by hottboiinnc4:

I didn't miss the point. You remade my point. They just can't shut down the 3G network if it affects current contracts. You must not know how mergers with contracts work do you?

My contract with T-Mobile does *not* guarantee 3G service.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: All this is Mute

It actually does because TMO uses those select frequencies that ATT does not have. You pay for it and T could NOT take it from you while you're under contract; unless you agree to an upgrade and move to the T side of the company.

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said by hottboiinnc4:

yes they do. They have to leave all services and prices in place if their network does NOT work with current TMO phones that are on the market in contract. If someone's phone does NOT work on the ATT network then TMO's network must be kept in place. T could not just shut the network down or start moving things around.

Or they can do what they did with former Alltel customer's and offer free replacement's to work on the new network. Existing customer's with GSM only handset's which make up the majority of T-Mobile's phone's can get SIM update's or new sim card's to force the phone's to run on AT&T GSM.

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elray
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said by hottboiinnc4:

not true. All you are doing with that spreading FUD! If you sign up under a contract with TMO and ATT takes over ATT MUST legally give you what your contract states unless YOU upgrade your services (renew contracts).

T just can't change your terms; They buy your contract and everything else.

Don't be naive.

Service on TMO will degrade quickly once the merger goes through. Subscribers won't be able to prove anything, and will quickly either accept dangling "upgrade" offers, or leave for greener pastures. No one will make ATT "legally give you what your contract states".

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djdanska
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But if you want to keep 3g or 4g, your going to be eventually required to get a phone compatible with at&t's 3g/4g network, since they will be shutting down the t-mobile 3g/4g network.

Don't want to pay full price for the phone? Sweet! Don't worry, at&t will subsidise the phone but your going to need a compatible rate plan. No more t-mobile plans.

They did it with at&t wireless/cingular merger, they will do it again. You can keep your t-mobile contract, but i sure hope you enjoy edge!
jtel
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Its not moot (thats what you meant I believe) because AT&T has to bring their prices down to show there is competition.

T-Mobile can kill the merger just by lowering prices. Then they'll get $3 billion in cash, AWS spectrum that AT&T can't use (w/o T-Mobile because its not a nationwide piece) and a 'favorable roaming agreement from AT&T.

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CptGemini
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Corpus Christi, TX

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My cap

Is still 5GB because I am on a grandfathered android data plan when I got my G1 a few years ago. I've never really had to worry about hitting that cap because ive rarely ever come close but this weekend I did when I went to visit some family for the weekend I used about 4GB and have about 450mb left lol.

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lol

HSPA+ and a 2GB allowance then back to Edge??? What a crock. That makes ATT's overage look like a better deal in contrast. Where is that TMo fanboy GBCue to say how awesome this is?

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jtel
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Bristol, RI

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Misprint?

Shouldn't that read $60 and $80?
kellogg
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Montebello, CA

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Re: Misprint?

no you pay more for a contract because they reduce the cost of your phone so they want you to pay it back through service.
tdouglas22
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Memphis, TN

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Looks like I'm going to Verizon

After my contract expires with T-Mobile this fall. The fact that I get a company discount with Verizon does make the idea of switching seem pretty sweet. Still, I've enjoyed my service from T-Mobile since 2009 so no hard feelings here.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: Looks like I'm going to Verizon

You do realize that data on TMO phones is unlimited right? VZ is unlimited as well; but the fact that their prices (along with T) are the highest in the country doesn't make an employer discount offset the fact that its about 15% higher on average.

Renew your contract keep the same rate plan as you have now and keep it for 2 years. The pricing that is on this site is nothing but the lower priced plans and not the unlimited ones. Karl fails to mention that.

ztmike
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What a surprise

Looks to me like T Mobile is already going the way of AT&T plans. With their 2GB reach.

I can just imagine it when AT&T DOES take over.

O well..I dropped TMO and will be going with Straight Talk with their Nokia E71 smartphone.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: What a surprise

That's been an option before the merger. Just never said anything on here because TMO wasn't ATT or VZ or even Sprint. They were always left out of the neg. "news".

The fact is these are FlexPay Plans for the most part and NOT contract plans. But you can get them on a contract if you really want them. You save a few bucks but not very much.

ArrayList
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2GB?! wow.

That sounds very familiar to a certain other GSM carriers data cap.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: 2GB?! wow.

Always been an option; just never put on the "news" site here. It's not even really sold. Especially when that package focuses on the flexpay customers.

compuguybna
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YES, you can say AT&T. . . That's the only other GSM carrier.
said by ArrayList:

That sounds very familiar to a certain other GSM carriers data cap.

amungus
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America

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fail

I just fail to see how this will help the supposed "broadband initiative"

For areas that are just out of range of what AT&T or cable companies want to wire, wireless is the ONLY option except satellite...

With such insanely low caps, satellite is simply a better option for people who want more than 2-5 gigs worth of data in a month.

Kind of silly.

I get it for phones, sure. Fine. A data card should not be so restricted though. None of the carriers HAVE TO do this (cap so low, esp. on cards), but it sure smells a lot like some kind of collusion.

RR Conductor
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Redwood Valley, CA

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T-Mobile, the nations largest 2G (GPRS/EDGE) network.

Wait, T-Mobile has 3G? Where?

fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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Re: T-Mobile, the nations largest 2G (GPRS/EDGE) network.

Why, here in metro Atlanta for sure, I'm getting 6100kbps download/2100kbps upload using my Android phone on T-Mobile. It's faster than Sprint's WiMax where I live.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: T-Mobile, the nations largest 2G (GPRS/EDGE) network.

Much of Ohio has it as well.
tmc8080
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Brooklyn, NY

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screw tmobile.. at&t too

even that walmart based (no contract) family plan sucks!
can't imagine that things would get better merging with at&t, except maybe more dropped calls-- so better for the carrier as more "completed calls" means more potential profit for the carrier as you redial.

sure, there are obviously millions of people for whom no other wireless signal will work in their "home zone".. and, my sympathies.. and a little bit of pity

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fuziwuzi
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Got it!

I had the "Everything & More Plus" plan (unlimited anytime calling, unlimited text, unlimited data) for $79.99. I called this morning and inquired about the "Even More Plus", which is essentially the same except for the 2GB data threshold and it is true, it is $59.99. So, since I have never used more than 500MB in a month, I switched, saving me $20 a month. Sweet!

st89jebn
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What should I do?

I have TMO Even More for Families 1500 Talk and Unlimited Domestic Messages for Families. The plan covers me, my wife and two oldest children. Monthly bill total is $127.

We don't have smartphones, internet or data plans, and have no need for them. My wife and I both have old Razr V3 phones and we are eligible for upgrades. The kids have a Samsung t239 and a Nokia 2720 and will be eligible to upgrade before the end of the year. We would all like to have more modern phones, but not expensive ones. I am afraid to extend the contract with all of the merger talk. What's a good inexpensive phone to buy? Should I buy an unlocked phone somewhere or should I just buy from TMO extending our TMO contract?