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T-Mobile Will Have iPhones In Store, But Won't Sell Them
Carrier Ramps up 'Bring Your Own iPhone' Campaign
by Karl Bode 08:34AM Tuesday Sep 11 2012 Tipped by SuperNet9 See Profile
While T-Mobile won't be getting the new LTE-based iPhone this week, they're pulling out all the stops to ensure that the damage caused by that fact will be minimal. The carrier has stated they're pushing out HSPA+ in the 1900 MHz band so unlocked iPhones can use their faster network, and they also hope that their recently announced return to unlimited data can also help differentiate the carrier. They're going so far as to announce this week that they'll actually have iPhones in their store later this week for demonstration; you just won't be able to buy any of them.

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According to T-Mobile, the effort to get people to bring their unlocked iPhones to T-Mobile begins in earnest September 12:
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We see a big opportunity to make the experience of bringing an unlocked iPhone to T-Mobile even better for customers. That’s why, beginning September 12th, we’re stepping up our efforts to attract customers with unlocked iPhones to T-Mobile. Each of our branded retail stores will receive an iPhone 4s demo unit and our sales staff will start training to help customers set up their compatible iPhone. We’re also developing iOS versions of helpful T-Mobile applications like T-Mobile myAccount, T-Mobile Visual Voicemail and T-Mobile TV (we already offer an iOS version of our popular Bobsled application).
T-Mobile goes on to state they're already using 1900 MHz spectrum for HSPA+ connectivity in Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area, and claims that an iPhone 4S running on their network sees 70% faster download speeds than iPhone 4S devices on AT&T’s network.

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IowaCowboy
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They just don't want to pay Apple

They just don't want to pay Apple or get their hands tied by them. Yes, I do have an iPhone and I do have it through Verizon and Verizon had to bend over backwards to add the iPhone to their fleet (such as no more early/annual upgrades, 1 year agreements, new every two, etc).

I have a gut feeling that Apple wanted AT&T to be the sole provider of iPhone throughout it's existence but customer backlash pushed them to make the decision to offer it on other carriers in the United States.

I'll be excited to see an LTE iPhone but the earliest I can buy it is November 30th (when my upgrade is due). My iPhone 4 seems to have developed battery issues (although I am not going to address them because my phone is out of warranty and my upgrade is almost three months away).
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fifty nine

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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

I agree but Apple is a business and if they want to be paid, more power to them! As a shareholder I like that Apple tries to make as much money as possible.
bnceo

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Bel Air, MD

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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

So you like short term profits or actually advocate people investing for the long term? You know, like with FiOS. Reason they mostly stopped building out was because shareholders only want to see profits NOW NOW NOW and not care about the future.
bnceo

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Bel Air, MD
Gotta disagree on one of your points. I think Apple say their iPHone being saturated on AT&T and knew the only way to grow was to expand to other carriers.

I highly suggest you get an iPhone off contract, especially if you are still on Verizon's unlimited plan. They will take you off if you get a subsidized phone.

Personally, I'm waiting for the unlocked version, which I expect to come out in Nov/Dec.

IowaCowboy
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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

I gave up my unlimited data as it was cheaper to add mom and grandma with their basic phones @ $30 per month than to pay AT&T $136 per month since I was already paying for the data. I also added a 3rd gen VZW iPad @ $10 per month and a Jetpack @ $20 for the laptops. So an iPhone, two dumb phones, a Jetpack and iPad are going to cost me about $200 per month with 4 GB of data. As for the iPhone subsidy, buy it on their dime as you pay the same monthly charges subsidy or not.
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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI
said by IowaCowboy:

They just don't want to pay Apple or get their hands tied by them.

I don't blame them. Sprint bit and the jury's still out on whether that'll end up a net gain for them or not.

Ironically: After 13 years with Sprint I may leave, soon, because, while Sprint has plenty of iPhones, they no longer carry a 'droid phone to meet my needs.

Jim
bnceo

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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

Droid is only a Verizon name. Android is the OS.

It's a pet peeve when people get that wrong. There is no droid phones on Sprint or AT&T. Only on Verizon. They paid George Lucas to use the word Droid.

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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

said by bnceo:

Droid is only a Verizon name. Android is the OS.

It's a pet peeve when people get that wrong.

It's a pet peeve of mine when people don't pay attention. I did not write "Droid." I wrote "'droid." It's short for "Android." I know the Droid name is VZW-only.

So, just for you: "After 13 years with Sprint I may leave, soon, because, while Sprint has plenty of iPhones, they no longer carry an Android-based phone to meet my needs."

There, happy?

Jim
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said by bnceo:
Droid is only a Verizon name. Android is the OS.
To you....and vzw maybe...

Droid = Android = ANY ANDROID Based phone. Period.

Droid = 'droid if its that big a deal, always has always will....

said by bnceo:
It's a pet peeve when people get that wrong. There is no droid phones on Sprint or AT&T. Only on Verizon. They paid George Lucas to use the word Droid.
There are TONS of Droid phones on all the networks...

Now you want peeve... what does lucas need to be paid to use a word for? !?! ?!

Good grief.... oh come one... this IP et al BS has really gotten out of control... I think I will submit the dictionary so I can request payment for every word people say and type, mime, mouth or think about... oh good grief!
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hottboiinnc
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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

not true. VZW has a trademark on Droid period. It means - owned by VZW for the sole purpose to market their Droid brand of phones
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Re: They just don't want to pay Apple

said by hottboiinnc:

not true. VZW has a trademark on Droid period. It means - owned by VZW for the sole purpose to market their Droid brand of phones

Since we're arguing about semantics, George Lucas owns the trademark on the Droid name, Verizon licences it to market some of their android phones

mech1164
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Lodi, NJ

Yep

We know that there has been an iPhone on Tmo's bands made. It's just thatTMobile iisn't biting on what Apple is demanding. As much as I'm bummed about them not officially getting it. I can't blame them for it. This may just work in their favor.

They are going to target the people who actually think and realize it may be cheaper to do this. Buy the phone outright and save over time. Previously I was on Sprint, now I'm with Tmo. I bought outright a gsm Gnex and got the 30.00 Tmo plan. Now I'm saving about 60.00 a month compared to what I was paying on Sprint. If I had been on ATT or VZW it would have been even more. Also by doing this they limit the Apple effect those subscribers have on the network. So now TMOBILE is saying, Please bring your phone to us. We just won't subsidize it. If you are smart you'llsave . If you are dumb as sheeptthen keep paying through the nose. It's your choice.
xur17

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Cincinnati, OH

Re: Yep

said by mech1164:

They are going to target the people who actually think and realize it may be cheaper to do this. Buy the phone outright and save over time. Previously I was on Sprint, now I'm with Tmo. I bought outright a gsm Gnex and got the 30.00 Tmo plan. Now I'm saving about 60.00 a month compared to what I was paying on Sprint. If I had been on ATT or VZW it would have been even more. Also by doing this they limit the Apple effect those subscribers have on the network. So now TMOBILE is saying, Please bring your phone to us. We just won't subsidize it. If you are smart you'llsave . If you are dumb as sheeptthen keep paying through the nose. It's your choice.

They are targeting those people, but more-so I think they are trying to target people with out of contract iPhones on AT&T. These people can switch to T-Mobile, and get a much cheaper plan since they won't be using a subsidized phone anymore. T-Mobile also wouldn't have to subsidize devices for these users either.

Either way, I am interested to see how successful they are at this.
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Value Plans

What's important to remember is T-Mobile is the only company that gives you cheaper rates if you BYOD. My family's T-Mo contract is ending after 2 years, and the phones they got still work great. They could save $80/month just by switching to a value plan. No other carrier that I know of can give those steep discounts.

I wish I could use them, but their coverage is horrid unless I'm in the middle of a city.
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Re: Value Plans

said by bnceo:

Droid is only a Verizon name. Android is the OS.

It's a pet peeve when people get that wrong. There is no droid phones on Sprint or AT&T. Only on Verizon. They paid George Lucas to use the word Droid.

Lmao even though I am not with sprint they have all the newest Android phones, dafuq you talking about man?

jseymour

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Re: Value Plans

said by patt2k:

Lmao even though I am not with sprint they have all the newest Android phones, ...

No, they do not. They currently have only one Motorola Android phone, the Photon Q, and that's a slider.

In fact: Only Verizon Wireless has much in the way of Motorola Android product. It looks like they've cut a deal. If so: I think that's a mistake for Motorola. They've certainly lost my business. I'm certainly not going to be 25-50% more for wireless service just to have a "Droid," I don't care how good Motorola, Google or VZW think they are.

Jim

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I assume you mean data coverage? I have never been anywhere in the US where my tmobile phone coverage failed me. But the data can be slow in some rural places.
ssavoy
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Re: Value Plans

Data is much worse. My area is filled with coverage holes and dead zones. Luckily they are adding towers pretty quickly, but I think they're 5 years behind VZ/AT&T.

Simba7
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Head towards the northwest. No coverage here.

koolman2
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They could do what GCI did...

In Alaska, before GCI carried the iPhone, they offered a $450 credit on your account with a 2-year contract if you brought an unlocked iPhone in.

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I'm loving TMobile

I've been with Tmobile forever. A few years back it became cheaper to be out of contract!

I just bought an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Nexus android phone to replace my previously purchased unlocked Nexus One. Just plug in my sim and start using. I do not have a data plan. But I can activate data on the fly so when I travel, I turn on data for 1 month for about $10. Otherwise I just use the wifi at work and home, hotels, etc.

Also, since my Nexus is unlocked I can set up my phone as a hotspot and give access to my Android pad, iPad, nook, etc. without having a plan for those devices! And not paying ANY extra money to tmobile.

Why would you roll any other way?

I will never buy a subsidized smart phone again because its cheaper not to unless you are the heaviest of data users.
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i dont care about the phone, just gimmie the data.

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Makes me glad...

That I have unlimited data and I'm on AT&T. Basically I was a centennial wireless customer. They mirrored all of our plans and ToS when the merger finalized internally this past Feb.
Features:
Line 1:
-Voicemail, 6-way calling, Caller ID, Call forwarding, Call Hold, Message notification, and more.
-Unlimited Data (3G and I usually get around 2 Mbps) with tethering (because centennial didn't support tethering officially but didn't care (I.E it wasn't against the ToS) if you used it "If you could get it to work")
-Unlimited Text messaging
-600 anytime minutes (shared between the two lines)
-Unlimited Nights and weekends starting at 5pm
-5 Favorite numbers
-Unlimited Picture messaging
-Unlimited incoming calls

Line 2 is pretty much the same except No messaging or Data (it's a dumb phone). For all this we pay around 120ish a month (after taxes). So far no one can come even close to it. Plus we get the coverage of AT&T. According to AT&T due to the terms of the merger we can keep this as long as we like. Including switching anything we want within the old centennial plans. This also includes phone upgrades.

Find me a plan that is just as cheap with just as good data (unlimited) and coverage then I'll switch. Until then...not happening.
millerzone

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Kirkland, WA

Maybe *in* Seattle? But not *around* Seattle...

I'm near Seattle and there is no T-Mobile 1900MHz UMTS here, yet.