 
Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
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| TV still sucks. Doesn't matter how it's delivered 95% of TV is pure crap aimed at people who have the sense of humor of a moron.
said by Weird Al Yankovic:
Now why did I ever pay for this junk?
I hooked up eighty channels and each one stunk
Just brainless blood and guts, and mindless T & A
It's awful, it's putrid, it's crummy, it's stupid, gonna throw my set away
Just my negative opinion.
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 | joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL | Re: TV still sucks. Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe. | |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| Re: TV still sucks. said by nixen  :
said by joebear29 :
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe.
Yup. I get cable because of:
•NHL Centre Ice (though, not this year)
•Toonami
•Adult Swim
•Discovery Channel networks
The rest, I pretty much never watch.
-tom
The channels I watch:
-Commedy Central
-Adult Swim
-History Channel | |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
·Embarq
| said by joebear29 :
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe.
Yes, but the internet is an entirely different medium. I don't feel the two can be compared.
One thing I was thinking that may come good out of this, is since there is limited bandwidth maybe they would have an option do purchase just the channels you wants. So I could order only Fox for Simpsons, and King of the Hill, Cartoon Channel, IFC, SCI-FI, Weather Channel, CNN, and just a few others and not be forced to pay for channels in a bundle I will never watch or ever want to watch. This would increase my chance of buying pay-for-tv programing.
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"Affluence separates people. Poverty knits 'em together. You got some sugar and I don't; I borrow some of yours. Next month you might not have any flour; well, I'll give you some of mine." - Ray Charleshttp://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad | |
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join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| Re: TV still sucks. The comparison is valid for the point I was making - both mediums have large amounts of crap, but enough "quality" so that people generally subscribe.
Of course, everyone's definition of quality is different. If there were no other channels, I would get satellite just for ESPN and HBO, but others consider those channels worthless. | |
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Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven
join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
clubs: | Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap. Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe. Well.......that and the p0rn. | |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact! DSL will still be too slow and the answer is FTTH.  | |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26 | Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact! For delivering TV over DSL you need FFTN, I think it's enough for residential market.
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join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK | Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact! www.sasktel.com
Offers TV over DSL using ADSL type 1 (not adsl2, not yet anyways) | |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can intera Try enjoying the dropouts and the small resolution you will get from that.
It can't even support HDTV, much less a regular resolution TV stream. | |
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join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK | Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can intera I've had it for 6+ months now
If you walked in and turned on the TV, you wouldn't know it wasn't Cable or satellite
HDTv will require ADSL2 for sure, but 6.5 mb is more than enough bandwidth for regular tv | |
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| Xoroz
join:2004-08-06
| Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can intera SBC has been trying to push fiber to homes for speeds of 25mbps. Their initial project was for 5 years but today they pressure FCC, they do not want to share the cable, and then they would deploy it in 2 or 3 years. ( »story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s···95573503 )
I believe once our internet speed goes up to 25mpbs we will have no need for telephone lines or TV sets.
Internet will link all of the world for free, well at the mothly fee of your ISP. I think SBC is very smart on doing this, the first one to get the fiber to homes will get that monthly fee, hence will secure their share in the market. Because if TELCOs don´t look ahead they will die, just take a look at what SKYPE ( »www.skype.com plans are. Then imagine a little higher once we get WiMAX ( »www.wimaxforum.org/about ) instead of Wi-FI.
Then will just have wireless tools all over our uniforms.
The cars will have internet, the watch will have internet, it will all be linked. I predict about 5 years for this to come true, just watch and see. | |
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| coop_dog
join:2004-08-12
Orangeville, ON
| Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact! We need FFTH right away there is no time to spare. Not to solve our slow download speeds of 4 and 5 mb/s, not to bring new services to out house, not to give us an alternate for tv and internet, but to make everyone shut the F^k up about fiber on every forum. Man we know it would be nice, lets get over it.
Mike Cooper | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | I wonder... What type of picture quality I can get with 478k down and pots of packet loss. Which is exactly what I am getting right now on my DSL line. | |
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zno
join:2002-01-08
Atlanta, GA
| bring it on... there's certainly a market for this. people who hates cable but can't get satllites for whatever reason.
but how long would it take Bells to deploy ADSL2+ in first place?
soon we're gonna see lots of threads with "sync but no tv" issues.
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
 ·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: bring it on... I think it may be a good thing. Only thing is if that DSL loses sync, your TV will lose the signal as well. So in my case not sure if I would want it, though my sync problem looks like it's fixed (crossing my fingers). But hey this could very well drive Cable out of business. If people like SBC offer DSL cheaper than what Cable Providers charge for Cable Modem service, TV will likely be less as well.
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join:2004-07-21
Apex, NC | Re: bring it on... It is time to bring the GREEDY Cable providers to their knees. Time Warner especially. Maybe we can then move to Ala Carte and pay for the channels that WE want, not what "They" want to give us. | |
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zno
join:2002-01-08
Atlanta, GA
| Re: bring it on... just did google on adsl2+ and found this:
"downstream data rates are increased to up to 24 Mbps on phone lines as long as 3,000 feet, and 20 Mbps on lines as long as 5,000 feet."
»www.lsilogic.com/technologies/in···l2_.html
so, FTTH is not really necessary. FTTC should be adequate for this.
i'm curious how all this would work...
STBs better come with built-in 802.11g unless running cat5 to every room is included in stardard installation.
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
1 edit | TWC don't get it... ..They appear to want to offer ONLY thru some kind of closed end system which raises the costs. Unless there is some FCC Law against it why can't they just offer a range of Tv Channels whcih the consumer and pick from and pay p.m. Then the user could tune in via a media PC? I am sure that this is the way to go rather than trying to shift some protected and expensive BOX.
I like many others already get a pretty fast broadband service so why attach it to only an ADSL2+ roll-out? | |
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| HSD4490
join:2001-08-26
Matthews, NC
|  Re: TWC don't get it...
Even if the Bells did get this stuff working, they will have to pay for content. Guess who owns a shitload of that content.
Want HBO...TW...want CNN...TW...etc...
They will only enrich the coffers of Time Warner....the Bells are so finished...it's just a matter of time. | |
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hedyd4u
Premium
join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY
| Channel Choice When I can pick and pay for only the channels that I want to watch will cable be a good deal. Since there is more profit to bundle channels this will not change until cable has to compete with other providers in the same area. Yes some areas do have more than one cable provider but not enough. There is not enough demand for someone to build new to compete and I am against cable doing what the telcos do with reselling lines.
The best way to be heard is for all people to cancel cable then tell their cable company what they have to do before anyone will sign back up. The company will then make a choice. The problem is you will never get enough people to turn the idiot box off to make this successful.
Fiber has a long way to go before they can really challenge the cable companies. | |
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LiquidFriend
The Mooninites
Premium
join:2001-12-08
Raymore, MO
clubs: | .. Cable companies will fight to the very end to prevent the end of channel bundling. Losing the current methods would decrease the amount of profit the companies make by a major amount. | |
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| yac898
join:2002-12-06
Stony Plain, AB
| Re: .. check with the federal gov as to why cableco's or satelite co's cant give you a'la carte. has zip to do with the companies and everything to do with the feds. A consumer revolt wont do anyting. there is an election coming up, why not blitz the incumbents with your concerns. maybe if their job is threatened, things might change. In this case, you have the power as a registered voter not a consumer. when talking with your local repesentative, get specifics, and explain how bullshit answers or passing the buck equals one less vote for him/her. they are the ones who make the rules not the cable/sat co's. if bundling pissis you off, then do your duty and make sure the person you vote for understands and will do what they can. after the election, it is up to you to make sure that person delivers on what they said they would do. If you dont vote then keep your comments to yourself as you have no right to bitch. If you cant take the time to get involved or inform your local rep of your concerns, then you are no better than those "greedy companies" you whine about. | |
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mrpipur
Doctor Mud
Premium
join:2002-07-17
Magnolia, TX | TV via DSL?? I hope not!! As unstable as my DSL is, I'd miss half the shows I watch... good or bad;) | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | qwest qwest tried this and has ALREADY STOPPED DEPLOYING it. its not finacially or technically feasible. distance limitations the biggest factor.
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Viper007Bond
Premium
join:2002-09-26
Portland, OR | Streaming They should just do more of the stuff that MLB.com does. You can stream every single baseball game just about over the net and watch it live, from both cities. Pretty cool if you ask me. | |
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