Targeted Cable TV Ads Growing More Sophisticated Cablevision Leading The Way As Canoe Venture Stalls For years cable companies have been tinkering with new targeted ad technology that can send different ads to different households watching the same service -- based entirely on personal and regional data. While that sounds a little spooky to some, efforts on this front haven't been particularly easy for many carriers, and the cable industry's joint ad effort Canoe has seen several delays. The Wall Street Journal this week profiles some of these new ad systems, noting that companies like Cablevision are making advances on their own after Canoe stumbled. The Journal notes one trial done with the U.S. Army that targeted households based on age and ethnicity: In an early test of Cablevision's technology, the U.S. Army used it to target four different recruitment ads to different categories of viewers. One group, dubbed "family influencers" by Cablevision, saw an ad featuring a daughter discussing with her parents her decision to enlist. Another group, "youth ethnic I," saw an ad featuring African-American men testing and repairing machinery. A third, "youth ethnic II," saw soldiers of various ethnicities doing team activities. An Army spokesman declined to comment. Cablevision's system can even beam different ads to different set tops in the same house watching the same program, depending on what has been watched on each individual set top. correction: Cablevision tells us the furthest down they drill is to the household level for tailored ads. "Addressable advertising is done at the household level and utilizes general characteristics such as household demographics and geography implemented on an anonymous basis," the company tells us, adding that Cablevision does not use viewership data. It's not clear what happens as Cablevision makes their planned shift away from physical set tops to remote DVR storage. While most cable companies are looking at Internet advertising lustfully they'll probably need to tread carefully, given the fallout that struck companies like NebuAD for their behavioral ad systems. NebuAD's efforts failed spectacularly because the systems were implemented not only without notifying users, but in potential violation of both privacy and wiretap laws. Users in this thread in our Cablevision forum note that Cablevision customers can opt out of this service via the privacy portion of Cablevision's online portal.
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 | | At what point do they quit? Seriously, many people do not buy stuff based on ads or telemarketers. There has to be a database where they have numbers that simply will not buy anything based on intrusive ads. | |
|  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: At what point do they quit? Really? Because I imagine there are many lemming consumers that jump all over effective advertising. As long as those consumers exist, this trend towards more fine-tuned ads will continue. | |
|  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by moonpuppy:Seriously, many people do not buy stuff based on ads or telemarketers. There has to be a database where they have numbers that simply will not buy anything based on intrusive ads. And with DVRs, who bothers watching ads anyway? I only see on average about 1 hr a day of live TV. The rest is using recorded shows and fast forwarding thru commercials anyway. -- Record your speedtest.net results in DSLReports SpeedWave »www.speedtest.net/wave/1b3ef29fa84ff7ce | |
|  |  | | Actually people, including you do in fact do buy stuff based on advertising.
Maybe not conciously, but there is a direct correlation between marketing and sales that is very strong and well studied. The psychology behind it and what makes the best advertising is also very well studied. I'll give you a hint. An informative, rational commercial is not what causes you to buy a product.
You are not the rational critter you think you are. We are all heavily influenced by things that we have no idea about. This goes down all the way to the very label on a bottle or can, or the environment we purchase a product in. | |
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 voipguy join:2006-05-31 Forest Hills, NY | Depends If this will stop me from seeing ads for incontinence, impotence, feminine hygiene, sleep aids, etc., it's good. | |
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| Re: Depends said by voipguy:If this will stop me from seeing ads for incontinence, impotence, feminine hygiene, sleep aids, etc., it's good. I 100% agree. I would mind targeted ads far less than those for the slapchop. -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope | |
|  |  | | I would much rather see a commercial for something I might buy instead of one that talks about an oily discharge. | |
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| Re: Depends said by battleop:I would much rather see a commercial for something I might buy instead of one that talks about an oily discharge. LOLOLOLOL!  -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope | |
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 |  | | said by voipguy:If this will stop me from seeing ads for incontinence, impotence, feminine hygiene, sleep aids, etc., it's good. Car commercials... those are the ones that get to me.
There are more of these than anything else, and they're all the same. Zooming cars, loud pounding music, major annoyance... every break, 2 or 3 car ads.
It's enough to drive you nuts. Who the hell is buying cars now anyway with gas approaching, or at- $4 a gallon? | |
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 IowaManPremium join:2008-08-21 Grinnell, IA | Set Tops? If people drop there cable set tops, What would the providers do then? Not everyone has a set top box and that's just the way some people like it. | |
|  |  steven sPremium join:2002-09-14 Dearborn, MI | Re: Set Tops? In most places, without a STB you can only get about 10 channels, so unless you only watch the local channels and home shopping network, you need a STB. | |
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 |  KyL416 join:2005-12-28 Tobyhanna, PA | You can't with Cablevision, most of their systems went all digital and the few that haven't yet have a very limited analog lineup that is shrinking every few months. They also no longer do analog only installs. | |
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 | | Cablevision's system can even beam different ads to differen Cablevision's system can even beam different ads to different set tops in the same house watching the same program
Will that work with cable card
seems like a big use of bandwidth and some kills what SDV can save.
Add in start over and network DRV then you have a big bandwidth crush. | |
|  Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 | Special handling of Ads for Cable Company Executives!
The cable company executives, the pricks that they are, should only receive ads for prophylactics, for trying to manipulate their customers. | |
|  | | how how did cablevision collect data on family structure and race? something fishy here. | |
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| Re: how said by dave932932:how did cablevision collect data on family structure and race? something fishy here. Not very difficult considering the multitude of "white pages" websites. Then putting the data together gives a good profile of the household. Ex: -45yo subscriber in house estimated at $1mil, subscribed to the Greek channels and anime on demand -> fairly rich family of Greek origin with kids. -35yo subscriber named "Keisha Jones" in a poor neighborhood with 40% black people, subscribed to basic only -> likely single black female, limited income. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: how The fact is that just about all Cablevision subscribers have some sort of set-top box in the home. CableCard devices are the exception, not the rule.
Between the general demographic information already known about where you live, along with what you watch...they get a pretty good picture of who you are. It's not that hard. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: how said by limegrass69:The fact is that just about all Cablevision subscribers have some sort of set-top box in the home. CableCard devices are the exception, not the rule.
(snip) not to nitpick here but STB's ARE cable card devices, there just two way while tivo's and other such are one way thanks TO the cable op's that dont want them on their networks..
guess we just found out the reason behind that  | |
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 DavePR join:2008-06-04 Canyon Country, CA | Excellent reason to preserve free TV As far as I know, that's still one size fits all and no requirement for a return path.
I do not wish to be assimilated by the Borg. | |
|  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Excellent reason to preserve free TV We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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2 edits | Now I know who I am. I'm a "family influencers" as I got the Army ad with the daughter talking to her mother. quote: Addressable advertising is done at the household level and utilizes general characteristics such as household demographics and geography implemented on an anonymous basis," the company tells us, adding that Cablevision does not use viewership data.
Good move as my TV may be on all the time but it is usually tuned to a network and is just background noise. The interweb takes most of my cerebral neurons and only casually monitors what is on TV. At this point in time it is the Simpsons. Well worth the billions so the outhouses can slop at the public trough.
If I'm lying I'm dying. Look at what is on Fox 5 NY @ 7:23. | |
|  SnowymIRC unix.ro UnderNetPremium join:2003-04-05 Kailua, HI kudos:5 | Fantastic! This is an EBS message, Emergency Beer Situation Fran, your beer supply is running dangerously low! Where do I sign up?  | |
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